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Analysis: What non-conference IU Basketball rivalry would you like to see?


IndyHutch
  • There continues to be talk that Indiana and Louisville may be entering into an annual non-conference series, possibly beginning as early as this season. But if you could have the Hoosiers face any college basketball team in an annual series, what school or schools would be at the top of your list? Here's my take.

We’re probably still about a month away from Indiana releasing its complete 2015-16 basketball schedule.

That usually comes out some time in August. Once in a while it will move into September.

But here’s my question: If you could have one dream opponent that Indiana was able to lock into a home-and-home series with either for a two-year, three-year or four-year deal, what school would you like that to be?

Some will automatically say Kentucky and there’s nothing wrong with that if you’re looking at a dream scenario. But unless there’s a major philosophical change there I just don’t see that happening any time soon.

The reality there, however, is that IU-Kentucky could never get old. To those of us who experienced “The Border War” for countless years, I think the general consensus was that IU-UK was good for both programs and it’s good for college basketball.

Lately though the shift when talking about IU playing a school from the state to the south has been Louisville.

Back in February, Louisville coach Rick Pitino said on his weekly radio show that he and IU coach Tom Crean had been talking about starting up an annual rivalry game. Pitino said the negotiations at that point had IU and Louisville playing one season in Bloomington, one in Louisville and one in Indianapolis at a neutral site on a three-year rotation.

At the time, Pitino had said the schools were talking about having that first game as early as this upcoming season in Indianapolis.

"We are negotiating to play Indiana next year in Lucas Oil Stadium, where we split 35,000 tickets each," Pitino said on his February radio show. "If we can't get Lucas Oil on the date, we'll go to (Bankers Life Fieldhouse) and split 10,500 tickets or whatever. It'll be half going around behind our bench and half at mid-section, going around their bench."

Anyone who remembers the old neutral site matchups with Kentucky at Freedom Hall or in Indy where the court was split right down the middle will embrace that concept. It was actually a really cool idea especially when you had two rabid fan bases basically split right down the middle.

As far as I know nothing new has been discussed on that front, at least not publicly, but again this would be something we probably wouldn’t hear about again until the schedule is set in stone and released in the next month or so.

And so maybe Louisville turns out to be that non-conference annual rivalry that fills the void.

But are there any other programs that you would like to see Indiana play on an annual basis? If something gets done with Louisville, for example, I’m not sure other similar contracts would be set up as well given IU’s other set agreements (ACC/Big Ten Challenge, Crossroads Classic, Gavitt Tipoff Games) but you never know.

Myself, I would like to see Indiana and UCLA set up a series. Especially as long as Steve Alford is the Bruins coach. I just think a rivalry like that one would bring instant intrigue as well as pitting two basketball rich programs against each other.

How about IU-Kansas? There’s already a chance the two schools will meet this year in Maui and next year in Pearl Harbor. But maybe a few years down the road the schools could meet in an annual series.

Even though it wouldn’t be a big series on a national scale, I would still like to see another series along the lines of the Crossroads Classic that would set it in stone that IU would play a select state school or two every year. Perhaps you get on a rotation where every year you play two games against a pool of Indiana State, Ball State, Evansville and IUPUI. Maybe IPFW and Valparaiso get in the mix, too. I’m just a believer that games like that are good for basketball in general. It just promotes that in-state excitement a little bit more.

I’m sure there are other obvious rivalries, too. Are there any other rivalries that you would like to see come about involving Indiana basketball?

@IndySportsHutch

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I was thinking Gonzaga too. I think we should entertain Arizona. Maybe play one of these teams in a 3 year home, home, and neutral. Maybe play the neutral in Staples. It would give us edge in recruiting, with kids knowing they'll get big time exposure nationally.


I actually forgot about Arizona, that would be a phenomenal series to get set up and play every year.

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I think iu-duke would be a good match up I mean look at the history of that program. They are always a great team and they have the best coach in the nation

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I think the Texas Longhorns would be a good 3-4 yr match-up. Something a little outside the norm.

 

I think there are a lot of programs out there like that that would be a good test of your skills and keep you from playing the directional schools we often see in November and December in Assembly Hall. I'm a believer that you need a couple of those directional schools but you can't go overboard with them. That's when you get in trouble with the committee.

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How about Syracuse? We owe them some payback.

 

Then you'd have to prepare to face that zone every year. That might not be a good thing.

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In order:
1. Kentucky (Home & Home)
2. Kentucky (Neutral Sites)
3. Kansas
4. Louisville
5. UCLA
6. N. Carolina
7. Duke

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Georgetown????

 

We always seem to go toe-to-toe with the Hoyas.

 

Usually have good, quick teams with a formidable front court.

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Georgetown????

 

We always seem to go toe-to-toe with the Hoyas.

 

Usually have good, quick teams with a formidable front court.

I was at the game last year at MSG with long time family friends and Gtown alumni/students. 

 

The atmosphere was absolutely electric

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I like UCLA as a rival, that would be a fun one.

I would add Oregon. While they had a down year after being decimated in the off-season they're generally talented and can pose a real-- aww I give up. They would play 40 minutes from me. That's why. Isn't that enough?

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Again, there are a ton of good potential matchups that could make for a good long term series

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How about Syracuse? We owe them some payback.

 

Yes we certainly do, but I'd prefer not to play any school that's been NCAA slapped as has Syracuse.  For that same reason I would not be in favor of looking at SMU given that it's under investigation and Brown may not survive.  And if Brown goes, the program could suffer to the point that it really wouldn't be a marquis match-up of any magnitude.   Texas is a possibility but I'd like to see just how successful Shaka Smart will be in his new coaching environment before getting into a long term game relationship.   I'd prefer to look at the schools and coaches that have well-established winning programs, i.e., Arizona, Duke, Gonzaga, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville

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Yes we certainly do, but I'd prefer not to play any school that's been NCAA slapped as has Syracuse.  For that same reason I would not be in favor of looking at SMU given that it's under investigation and Brown may not survive.  And if Brown goes, the program could suffer to the point that it really wouldn't be a marquis match-up of any magnitude.   Texas is a possibility but I'd like to see just how successful Shaka Smart will be in his new coaching environment before getting into a long term game relationship.   I'd prefer to look at the schools and coaches that have well-established winning programs, i.e., Arizona, Duke, Gonzaga, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville


Yeah, its hard telling with ol Coach Brown. He's been at it for a long time
I'm really rooting for Shaka Smart. I think he is the now generation in NCAA coaching
While his record boasts success at a mid major, he's had tournament experience and success as well.

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How about Syracuse? We owe them some payback.

I'd rather not, I'm trying to forget how awful our zone offense is not get nightmares from it.

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I love possible tournaments like that. I used to be an advocate for a Indiana State Tournament for colleges. There would be two play-in games to determine the 7 and 8 seeds. You would then seed it and play it. So what if IU and Purdue played again in the non-conference season. I think it would be cool -- and great for basketball in the state of Indiana.


I sent a very similar idea to the AD'S office when I was a student. I believe the AD then was McNeely. As you might imagine I didn't get much of a response.

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I sent a very similar idea to the AD'S office when I was a student. I believe the AD then was McNeely. As you might imagine I didn't get much of a response.

 

Uh.....No. McNeely's 16 months as athletic director was an IU nightmare. He was from San Diego and brought all his own people with him and he never really seemed to understand what being at Indiana was all about. I know a lot of people who attempted to correspond with him and never got a reply. So at least you're not alone.

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I would like to see us play Duke on an annual basis.  Duke is a consistent program with a loyal fan base...plus, I would like to see half of Cameron Indoor Stadium filled with equally crazy Hoosier fans!

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Ok would like Duke, as well. But, there may contractional situations in play. With the ACC/B1G challenge. Just a thought

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I would love to see Ga Tech added. It would help recruiting in the Atlanta area and I could go see them. Also Atlanta is a great place to visit and the players would love it.

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I would love to see Ga Tech added. It would help recruiting in the Atlanta area and I could go see them. Also Atlanta is a great place to visit and the players would love it.


I also wonder if there are hiccups with adding an ACC school to a rivalry series because of the ACC/Big Ten Challenge

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