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  1. He’s pure Purdue dork I gotta say. In Gen Z terms, he’s Purdue-maxxing.
  2. Not IU. Not sure on the reason. Update: sounds like we backed off. Not a big deal to see him go elsewhere.
  3. Tropical leaves tattoo? He walked into a tattoo parlor and said hey I’m looking to get a fern on my arm. Lol.
  4. FWIW, and it's just my useless opinion, I think Duke is on another level. They're the highest funding in CBB, with deep recruiting ties including with Nike, a sterling brand with big exposure, and a track record of being really good every year. UM we're closer to, but they outspent us pretty good last year and this year we're closer, but still short. After a natty they'll get whatever they ask for. I think CDD made a huge mistake with the lack of multi-year guys in season one. We had all these one year dudes and the multi-year guys were not developed/retained (Trent a little). So we had another total rebuild, which personally I found very disappointing. Okay, our W/L in season one was not great, but at least develop some pieces for season two! C'mon, think long term here. I don't think it's possible to build a conf title winner/F4 team entirely scratch in one portal. Even if we had $25M. With no roster continuity, it's so hard to get 10 new guys to gel such that they can win really big. Just my opinion. I agree with pretty much all the concerns people voice on this board. We need more front court depth. We have question mark players CDD/Carr/staff better be right on... though this pretty normal every year. Best case I can see is we hit on almost all the new guys, they improve as the year goes on, and we get like a 5 seed or better and make the S16. Then return most of the roster, which is possible with all our multi-year guys (nice work!), and go into a portal needing only a few players. We'd be selling an attractive situation -- a S16 team on the rise. IUBB is back baby! Bring in a few high end portal players and then season three of CDD we're thinking conference title and F4. Is this likely? It's IUBB. Be optimistic at your own peril. I could type out a downside scenario, but we all know what that would look like... I've got to say I'm surprised we spent so much money. The thinking was $13-14M, now it's closer to $20M. This rachets up the expectations this season... which is good. Big pressure on CDD this year. This season is now much more interesting than I thought it was going to be. I'm looking forward to games in Peru now.
  5. Agree. Close to $20M spend when it's all done, plus this huge expensive staff, you've just got to deliver a six seed or better. Or else why are we spending all this money? If they can't do this and there were no serious injuries, I just cannot see a case for this staff being the right one that's ever going to do anything here. Hopefully this staff hits their stride this year...
  6. Agree the roster continuity/advanced scout is the most important benefit with retention. But I wouldn't downplay the savings. If the player is happy -- the program is winning, they're developing, and they're comfortable with staff/program and their life/future, it's going to take some pretty lucrative tampering to shake them loose such that they give all that up and hit the unknown in the portal. $100K or even $250K may not do it. So there is that angle to the savings. The other thing is replacing a lost player is so damn expensive in the hyper competitive portal. I think good retention saves 15-20% across the whole roster, which lets a team afford another impact player. Also, the other way to save on the roster is to develop guys. If they get better they're still on the same money, at least for one year. It's all a flywheel. (1) Recruit bad, mediocre development, lose too much, roster turnover up, players cost more. (2) Or recruit well, develop well, win more, roster turnover low, players cost less (relative to their skill). IUBB needs to get on the positive flywheel ASAP.
  7. I'd hope Sisley is closer to $1M. I can barely remember, but I thought Woody threw a nonchalant $500-750K offer at him back during his recruitment and Painter was mad about it. So if he was ~$500-750K last year he get's a bump to ~$1M or something. I dunno, just a guess.
  8. "I'm closer to LeBron than you are to me." -Scalabrine
  9. That's an excellent long form piece. I didn’t know the longer background with Cig. I wasn't around for '75-'76. I always wondered what that was like, especially since that sort of athletics success at IU seemed very unlikely to occur again. I can't believe I got to experience something even more amazing. And IUFB likely isn't done being very good. Thanks Curt!
  10. Chatter was he got $15M for his roster. I almost don’t believe the number given how few players he has. Insane!
  11. 20-25 schools over $20M? I’m not buying that Sean. Bit of exaggeration there imo. Maybe 10 are $20M+. That said, #10-20 still have a lot of money. IU needs to start developing and retaining players to help offset the increase in player costs.
  12. If Bama (his childhood team) is out of the picture… that’s good news.
  13. If we can watch preseason games on TV that would be excellent.
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