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  1. 44 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I think the few remaining people Woody had on his side he lost last night. Anyone can see what IU means to Trey, and how hard he works during the game, then you're going to call a timeout to rip him a new one for getting beat once. Then blame him for the loss because he had 6 turnovers. To also say we would be much better off if we had Xavier. We have all watched him play and we wouldn't be that much better. No one will want to get on a sinking ship
  2. 39 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I can 100% say that the job was never offered to Pitino or Oats. I wish we would have spoken to Oats. From what I’m hearing a couple of very big donors are at least open about talking about replacing Woodson this season. Dolson has a very good pulse on who all would be interested. We’ll see.
  3. 38 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    From what I have heard we have a really good plan going forward. We just need to let Dolson work.
  4. 31 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    At this point most players are gone after the season, Not sure we can get guys out of the portal. No one in the class of 25 is going to come to IU with Woodson in limbo for next season. I'm guessing donations will be down, NIL money will be down. There is nothing Woodson can do to save the ship from going down at this point. I can't imagine a change not happening. I haven't heard that yet but I think we're heading that way
  5. 28 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I think the plan is talk to coach A, B, C to try to swing big, if we don't get one of those then we have option D that we know will take the job. IMO all options are better than Woodson. But one of these has to be a done deal before anything will happen here.
  6. 28 points
    Hoosierfan2017

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Nothing iubb-related pisses me off more and makes me want to support the team less than the ‘blame the fans’ take. The fanbase is the only good thing this pathetic program has left.
  7. 28 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Also family members of players are starting to let people in charge know that they are tired of their kids being called out in public to the media. It's one thing to do it behind closed doors but it's another to tell the media the kid played awful. Woody won't talk about himself being awful this year or take any accountability at all for this horrible roster, or the coaching this season. I think that will make kids enter the portal too if he is retained.
  8. 28 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I'm usually one of the last ones to say fire a coach because I know what it does to the families of assistants, staff, and players, everyone is affected. It has happened to my wife as a player, it happened to my FIL as an athletic trainer. It's sometimes life-changing things and it's very hard to move on. It's not as easy as just packing up and moving to another town for a new job. That being said I could tell early on that this wasn't a job for Woody. I love the guy, he's awesome to talk to and hang out with but he is-was already semi-retired and this job needs much more than that. My son will probably play golf with Woody & Buckner as soon as the season is over. Which I love because they are helping a young black IU student feel comfortable at IU. But this job is way over his head. And the longer it goes the worse it's going to be. I also love IU and just want what's best for this school. Sorry for the ramble.
  9. 27 points
    Hoosierfan2017

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Folks are trying to talk themselves out of Pearl. Don’t. He’s a winner. Simple as that. He’s won at every single school he’s coached at. If he comes to IU he will win here too. Guaranteed. Now, he may only win for 5-6 years before he retires, but he will win. And you know what 5-6 years of winning does to the IU job? It makes it a helluva lot more attractive for the next hire.
  10. 27 points
    btownqb

    Fire Coach Woodson

    We're too good for Pearl now? I can't hardly believe some of you wouldn't welcome Pearl with open arms. Honestly-- just crazy to me.
  11. 27 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    IU has put some feelers out to some agents and agencies. Per Trilly
  12. 27 points
    Solsberryberries

    Coach & Support

    First time poster, but looooooong time reader going all the way back to the Decker Scout board (and the other various stops in between.) I’ve always appreciated the overall passion and enthusiasm on this board, so thank you to all the people that make this place enjoyable. Ugh… more coaching threads. I was hopeful that things would move in the right direction with Coach Woodson, but alas… here we are trying to stay above .500. When we look back at the 29 years Coach Knight was here he had 10 10-loss seasons. None of those seasons were sub .500, but they were mediocre, nonetheless. Some of those seasons were right on the heels of some of our most successful seasons. Sure, he caught flack. But it seemed he nearly always had overwhelming support from the fanbase. One of the reasons I believe Coach Knight had that support was simply because he formed relationships that communicated he valued the people in Indiana. He was accessible, benevolent and equally supportive to the surrounding communities. His favorite eateries (like Rosie’s Diner), hobbies, media appearances (coach’s show, golf instructions, coaching clinics) all formed lasting bonds and ties with the state that far outlasted his time here as coach. He taught us how to watch the game- even produced videos teaching the fans what to look for while watching a game (still available on YouTube). To me, along with a coaching philosophy, this is the secret sauce to coaching at a special place like Indiana (beyond the university). Tough years will happen in good, even great programs. But will you have the support and respect of the community to see you through? It seems to me all of our hires since Knight have been a swing and miss in this category- all separate from what happens on the floor or basketball IQ. First, I hope Coach Woodson figures it out. But he has to show up in Indiana High School gyms and eat a bag of popcorn and learn someone’s name who works at Ace Hardware. It’s an important part of the job. Woodson was in the NBA for so long I wonder if the NBA lifestyle will be hard to unlearn? If it doesn’t work out, I really hope we hire someone who gets Indiana. Note: this doesn’t HAVE to be an Indiana guy- but I think it helps the learning curve. Being one of “those” southern Indiana people, I sure hope Dusty May gets a shot at the job. I think his understanding of the game and program are an excellent match. But more than that, he will win over the state by hard work and building local relationships. I’m confident he would live and breathe putting Indiana basketball back on top. No one would want it more. The other coaches mentioned… will they embrace the quirks of Indiana basketball? Crean was right “It’s Indiana.” Indiana is unique. I remain somewhat optimistic that Dolson will do his best to move us in the right direction, but I sure hope whoever the coach has all the support possible from this hungry Indiana fanbase.
  13. 26 points
    IUrocker

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I know Woodson wants to look like a savior and not a quitter, but at this point, most fans would consider him a savior by quitting…
  14. 25 points
    Uspshoosier

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Just my opinion but hiring a coach without any college coaching experience already should signal they don’t give a crap about basketball or at least not at the level that fans want it to be. Hiring a non college basketball coach with 0 years of college experience running a program to fix a college program that had struggled for 6 years before was a bold move. Short term it paid off because the coach before him underperformed so bad that early success looked larger then what it really was when you dive deeper into the numbers and what was actually accomplished. Woody could turn this thing around next year through the portal (this day and age this is a real possibility) and he still wouldn’t be the answer for this program to get to where it should want to get to
  15. 24 points
    IUCrazy2

    Fire Coach Woodson

    We have reached the, "This is the fans fault, you are toxic and nobody is going to want this job" phase of the process. Elston and Watford are on Twitter this morning basically making that argument. "You all ran off Crean and now look..." As a fan, I kind of get tired of getting told how awesome I am when they want my time and money and then getting told to sit down, shut up, and do what I am told when I express displeasure with how they use it. They can bring Woodson back and the deal I will make with them is that I will be completely quiet about the deal and give him a chance to sink or swim. That means no donations, no eyes on the product, and no purchasing of merchandise until they show they are worth supporting. I doubt I would be the only one. They don't like anger? Fine, have apathy.
  16. 24 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Knight would tell players where to go in town to get free food, and free gas, work done on their cars for no cost, and where to find cheap housing. Where to get summer jobs that paid more money to players than regular workers. He got players' families jobs at Cook and other places. Did they go to class? Yes Did they graduate? Yes But he had ways around rules just like everyone else.
  17. 23 points
    hper50

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Quote from Dolson in a new article about Curt Cignetti: ““The decision for us [to fire Allen and hire Cignetti] was really looking at, ‘What’s the trajectory of our program right now and where’s the trajectory of football in the Big Ten?’” Dolson said. “With expansion and all that is happening in terms of football in the Big Ten, it became not ‘What is the cost of making the change?’; it was, ‘What is it going to cost us if we don’t make the change?’” https://t.co/BAUJCfvLfg
  18. 23 points
    Class of '66 Old Fart

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Woody really needs to stop meeting with the media. He's not doing himself any favors with his comments.
  19. 23 points
    Ghost of Rick Majerus

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I just don't understand how a program that invests so much and has such a passionate fan base can get so little in return. It just makes no sense to me. You can't blame Woodson for wanting a crack at the helm, but you can blame Dolson for making the hire. I appreciate Mike Woodson's love for IU and what he tried to do, but it's not working. I see folks on here arguing about Dusty May and Bruce Pearl and I just don't understand. I would take nearly any of the folks mentioned over what we have now. I just want competent coaching and fundamental basketball. Why is that so difficult to obtain at a program that invests so much as IU? What am I missing?
  20. 23 points
    Stuhoo

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Scott Dolson lives and breathes IU basketball. He was a Michigan City Rogers player, Delray Brooks' roommate at IU, and a four year IUBB manager under RMK. Scott Dolson was sitting courtside last night, as he did for the Penn State game. He heard every boo and he took careful mental notes, even more than the average fan, of the level of disconnection. And as much sh!t as he's taking, Quinn Buckner also lives and breathes IU basketball, and loves it deeply. Yes, he was likely one of the principal drivers that led to Woody being hired, but that doesn't mean he loves watching his friend get destroyed while derailing his beloved IU program. If this goes on? There will be no chance at effective recruiting. Word travels among players and the only ones who will come are those looking for a paycheck. That's a sure-fire losing proposition. And that's an actuarial disaster for the athletic department's cash cow and supposed marquee program. So I'll say it again: if we lose four or more of our last six (now three out of five)? I see it as likely (not guaranteed, but likely) that a change will be coming. It just. Makes. Sense.
  21. 23 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    On my way to work, I didn't see Woodson's vehicle so I thought maybe he had been let go, then I remembered he was probably just out all night partying with Chris Tucker.
  22. 23 points
    OKHOOSIER

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Lurk a lot and don't post, and apologies if this has been said ad nauseum but I just simply do not see how Dolson or anyone involved could think a rebuild in year 3 by Woody is a good idea. For me, it is not just the way this season has played out but how poorly we are set up for next season. An absolute monster transfer portal season aside and/or combined with a miraculous holding on to pieces (Ware, MM, etc.) we are going to be bad. We swung and missed on guards when that was the glaring need and we had the luxury of "TJD is gone, we can play the way we want." Well, three seasons of data showing we do not play or intend to play 1 in 4 out and spread the floor or modernize is not going to help get athletic guards in this offseason. I just do not see a world where we are markedly improved. Squeaking into the tournament and getting blasted early changes nothing in terms of the program trajectory with a lame duck (age, results or "bridge"--doesn't matter to me how you word it) is going to set us back into 2026. I love Woody, I hate that it has come to this, but he cannot be allowed to attempt a rebuild-- it has to be a new coach. We have to inject some juice into the rebuild, and I don't see how allowing him to try does that.
  23. 22 points
    Herotime

    Pray for Coach Woodson

    First, I want change as much as anyone. HOWEVER when it comes to the things we LOVE the MOST it’s really easy to criticize and complain about those who we feel are letting us down. So, I’ve felt convicted. CMW has a tough job. Many of the miscues are of his own doing, BUT I suspect there are LOTS factors that have been out of his control. Perhaps he prideful (many high-achievers are). Maybe he’s out of his depth (I’ve been there before). Maybe he needs wisdom… we all do. With that said I’d encourage you to pray for CMW. I don’t think that means you have to want him to continue being the coach, but I do think that keeps things in perspective. He is a professional and he hasn’t produced the way he should. BUT he’s also a man, and all of us could use the prayer— especially him. Not only that— praying for HIM will keep US from falling prey to the arrogance and pride that some have sensed in him. No need to reply. Just food for thought from one Hoosier to the rest.
  24. 22 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    For me, this is about the future. As many have said we're about to start a total rebuild. Woodson hasn't ever done that. After seeing how he has handled the roster the first three years do we trust him with rebuilding the roster? He has lost the majority of the fans (hence the booing) to have confidence in him getting the job done at his age. We're going to lose players to the portal, with no confidence in him bringing in players, the 25 class is crucial but who wants to come play for a lame duck coach? NIL money will drop from fans. If he is brought back the first loss next season the boos will be back. This stat stood out to me. The last 10 losses have been by double digits. We're not even playing games close right now. I feel like it is do or die for the program. I think word has gotten out this wasn't Scott's first choice as coach, so he will be able to correct this mistake now. Woody had the right people backing him, but he made too many mistakes.
  25. 21 points
    Chris007

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Everything people are saying out loud is he will be back. I will say it has gone from he will get his 4th year, to he will get his 4th year if things don't go off the rails, to everything will be discussed after the season. But there are whispers that everyone knows this isn't heading in the right direction. That a change needs made but you have to make the right next hire. I think Scott has a list. Can you get all the money lined up, can you make the fiances work? But I think you will lose money in the long run by keeping him. JMO


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