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I'm sorry but not going to argue with Katchy about this but I got a text from someone higher than her last night that said some serious conversations are going on right now at the highest levels about ending this nightmare immediately.

I will say I'm pleasantly surprised to hear of the conversations that have and are taking place last night and this morning in the athletic department.

Wait... What???

I will be in attendance today. Taking my 77 year old grandpa. He hasn’t been back to Bloomington or to an IU game since the 76 championship. He’s pretty excited, I got us tickets right under the basket. I know this year hasn’t been ideal, but I’m excited for this game and time spent with my grandpa.

Source?

One of the saddest things about this whole situation is that Don Fischer has to put up a brave face and support the team. He’s 77 and has devoted 2/3rds of his life to IU.Definitely deserves better

The fact that someone thinks firing Woodson now is a knee jerk reaction to one loss shows just how badly our program is being run.

This is his last season coaching IU.

Quinn forced him on to IU with Steve He is Steve's godson and was untouchable the first 3 years IU hired Pam, she loves athletics, She let Scott get rid of Allen and let him hire Cigs Woodson still sucks, but his buddies can't save him any longer, Scott has power now. Woodson is done either now or March

The good old what if argument. Woody is not having a miracle second half comeback against Michigan in the B1G tourney away from missing the tourney 2 out of his 3 years. These are dumb arguments. Results are results. May won that game and went to Final 4. Woody won that game and another game against Illinois to barely make the tourney as the second to last team in and got blasted in the first round by St Mary’s

@Napleshoosier I can see from the emoji there’s some confusion. Literally. I’ll be more hypothetically clear - say you went to IU and were a student athlete alongside one of the greatest collegiate coaches of all time in his sport. Say you were best friends with his son, who also played for the team, and spent most holidays with their family because you didn’t have a father figure. Say, dog nabbit, if you wouldn’t know it, that friend ended up taking over for his dad and leading the most successful athletic program at your Alma mater into their next generation. Maybe that friend has a front row seat at the table of the athletic department and his dad continues to have a say to future AD’s about how to build a championship program and the type of personality it takes at the helm. And maybeeeee that friend knows you’re a die hard IU sports fan in general and puts you in touch with a few people in high places so he can get you to stop annoying him and his dad for information whenever things are going on. Maybe, just maybeee, that person would have a conversation or two to wish someone, or multiple someone’s, a merry Christmas - that may or may not naturally lead into a conversation that gives this particular someone, some “inside” Information that he chooses to pass along to fans just like him, who he knows care as passionately about this school’s athletic programs. But maybe he thinks to himself, if I type exactly what I just heard on the phone, it’s gonna be pretty obvious to the person I just got off the phone with, that it’s me who is posting information on message boards. Maybe this guy decides to keep it simple but still pass on some interesting info for his online buddies - without risking a stern talking to from the people he considers family and/or a father. Hope this helps clarify. Happy holidays faceless names on a message board I consider friends!

Listen; are you certifiably insane and out of touch with reality if you believe Brad Stevens will be the next head coach of Indiana basketball? Yes. Do I believe Brad Stevens will be the next coach of Indiana basketball? Yes.

Kamara is coming back - BOOM

My opinion is he’s done no matter what. There is no way he’ll be on the sideline when Michigan comes to town.

This is more likely:

If you get a chance Doyle has a really good article today about how Buckner and Steve Ferguson have protected Woodson for the last 3 years, also talks about Dolson now having control after hiring Cigs and the backing of Whitten.

@Chris007 that info about meetings being had is definitely making the rounds this morning. I’ll be shocked if an announcement or outright move isn’t made before the season ends at this point

Most by a visitor in regulation in Assembly Hall ever per ESPN. Seth Greenberg said "That was a score and an effort that gets you fired."

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. Sad, because promising five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look.

Washington State went 25-10 with him last year. That’s better than any Woody coached team. So I don’t think you can say with proper coaching you can’t win with Rice.

Obviously, this site is inclusive and nobody wants to discourage anyone from posting, but I really, really, really wish KathyC would stop coming here and acting as if we're all a bunch of emotional fanboys and/or fangirls upset about ONE game. This goes much deeper than one game. I get that she thinks she's smarter than everyone else -- can tell by the "Glad to clarify and update this for you" comment to Chris -- and I'm sure she has connections that we don't, but that doesn't change the fact that it's fairly obvious that this program is a mess and a change is needed. You don't have to be an "insider" to realize that. She really, really, really, really seems to enjoy talking down to people.

DUSTY FREAKING MAY

I'm convinced Kathy is Matt Painter just havin' some fun with the boys

Tyme is one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on X. He was dead wrong about this season. His posts are embarrassing. And now the blame the fans narrative is starting from him and the pro-Woody crew because they have nothing else to go to after Woody still struggled with top-5 NIL. Sometimes I even see them try to criticize the FB program -- they are a desperate bunch. Many of them will root against IU once Woody is fired. Fans are not the problem. In fact, one of the few blue blood/elite thing we have left are our fans. But fans just cheer, donate, and react to wins/losses (almost entirely online -- in person the team is treated like gods 99% of the time). Fans don't recruit and coach the team that either wins or loses (duh). There is not that much pressure to coach or play at IU. The bar isn't that high. After Woody's first two mediocre to okay years, fanbase support was very strong. Things only went south when TJD left and Woody's program literally imploded. Show me a fanbase happy with an imploding program. Go back to the Crean years -- fans were impressively patient during three very down years of rebuilding. The fact is IUBB has broken the unwritten pact with the fans. Fans really want to support IUBB, but IUBB has to put forth maximum effort and make a competent attempt to be good. Everyone sees the lack of effort, from recruiting to on the court, and we all know the pathetic behind the scenes stories too. Everyone sees the lack of competence, from missing on almost every HS recruit for two years despite top-5 NIL, to all the bad losses/blowouts to programs with far less resources. Maybe even worse than the lack of effort and competency, is Woody and others around the program refusing take responsibility and ownership for the results on the court. This is the most basic thing they need to do to succeed, and they can't even do that. They blame injuries, blame fans, blame recruits, and try to argue they're actually doing well. Pathetic. Woody and his cronies have done serious damage to IUBB. And it appears they aren't done. On the way out, it looks like we'll get another attack on the fans, which will turn more people off on IUBB. It's a shame, IUBB is special, but the people running it have ruined it. I can only hope Scott and the next coach can completely clean house and get rid of the toxic leadership that has wrecked the program.

Hemby has signed with Indiana