Hoosierfan2017

Not sure how that makes us “wrong.” Cinderella coaches get hired by P5 programs all the time. The ‘skepticism’ is skepticism that said coaches can actually replicate their success at the P5 level. Take Porter Moser, for example. Does great at a mid major. Goes to Oklahoma and he’s 34-32 overall and 12-24 in the Big 12 during his first two seasons.

With regard to the bolded, I think that’s largely driven by Woody being 65 years old and the rumors that he may not want to stick around as long as originally expected.

Certainly it’s intriguing, but it’s still very risky. Before this season he was 66-56 over four years at FAU. Fortunately we’re in a position where we won’t be taking such a risk for at least a few years, giving some other school time to risk it. Like someone upthread said, Porter Moser was the sparkly Cinderella but he’s flaming out at the P5 level. If IU’s his dream job, he’d still be in play when it comes time to replace Woody even if he moves to a P5.

If he didn’t have an IU connection folks would view him with the same skepticism they view other coaches with Cinderella tournament runs.

Love seeing Gonzaga get dominated.

It’s not “trashing” players to speak objectively about their abilities as players. Jordan Geronimo has played 82 college basketball games. Mediocre at best sums up those 82 games. Some are enamored by his physical abilities, but when a player is heading into his senior year, talks about his “potential” are a bit misguided. We’ve seen nothing from him to expect a substantially improved player next year. And yeah, Bates was a 5 star recruit two years ago. Now, two years later, he’s played 67 games and been seriously underwhelming. He had 1 good game in our last 16 games this year. In the other 15 games, he went 10-55 (18.1%), including 0-13 in the tournament, and now there are talks of him wanting NIL money for both himself and his family members. To that, I say see ya. It won’t be hard to replace his production. A lot of guys at the HPER can miss all their shots too.

I don’t disagree with the bolded at all. Tamar Bates and Jordan Geronimo just aren’t the difference between us looking like a program that will win and us not. They’re mediocre at best role players.

I had 27/32 first round games and now I have two teams left, both of whom I have losing in the next round.

My pleasure.

Bates hit as many shots in the tournament as I did and Geronimo has been living off his “potential” for 3 years now. Through 82 games he’s a 3.8 ppg guy. At a certain point your ‘potential’ turns into ‘you are what you are.’ He’s been flirting with leaving for 3 years now. Let him leave and go find a portal guy with his athleticism who can actually hoop too.

@Chris007 cmon man you just ruined HoosierHooper’s Friday night

Isn’t Furst a plodding big man? That’s not the kind of player I want getting heavy minutes. TJD couldn’t shoot a lick, but he was pretty quick and agile for a big. Playing him and Race together was the problem. Why keep the same roster construction? I want a team of athletes. Look at the teams still left in the tournament. How many start a guy like Furst? Our current style isn’t a good fit for the college basketball landscape.

Hearing these stories of Duncomb’s exploits makes me miss the days when we had serious players whose 1 and only priority was basketball. Guys like Hanner Perea.

I don’t think he has a Facebook (at least that I could find). This may be what your friend was referring to.

He wouldn’t be old enough for Nicks/Kilroys next year. Even if he’s playing in the G league, he getting millions guaranteed if he’s a first round pick. Your first two years are guaranteed. Years 3 and 4 are team options. Teams rarely don’t pick up a first rounder’s option. The last first round pick last year is making $2.193 million this year. Next year he’s at $2.3 million. Just under $4.5 million guaranteed. Someone saw a projection with him going 19th. Last year’s 19th pick is making $3 million this year and will make a little over $6.2 million in his first two years. If his options get picked up in year 3 and 4, he’ll make around $14.76 million over his first four years. He could come back and improve his draft stock. He could also come back and hurt it. He could get injured and never be the same again. It’s hard for a 19 year old old to turn down multi-millions to come back to college and be a student. Maybe he can make millions in NIL? Idk where we’re at with dollar amounts.