Hoosierfan2017

I live in Jersey so happy valley is only a few hours away for me. I kind of want to go to the game and think it’d be a great atmosphere, but at the same time not sure I want to spend several hundred dollars to likely watch us get destroyed…

As many people know, I’ve always thought that Ramsey was criminally underrated by IU fans. He wasn’t Patrick Mahomes, but he wasn’t Zander Diamont either. You don’t throw for 8,300 yards and 54 touchdowns in the Big 10 if you are. For all the talk about how X quarterback can’t beat the top teams, he went to Northwestern, went 7-2, won the Big 10 West and won a bowl game against an SEC team. Sometimes a boring, average quarterback is all you need. Iowa’s quarterback is the epitome of average and they destroyed us and will probably win their division. If Tuttle can be as good as Ramsey I see no reason not to turn to him. Penix is awful right now. We probably don’t beat PSU or OSU with him, but let’s be honest we probably aren’t beating those teams this year anyway. We have several games against competitive teams similar to us. Cincinnati was one of them, imo. I want the quarterback who gives us the best chance in those games because those are the teams we need to beat to make a bowl game. A turnover machine like Penix hurts our chances in those games. Unfortunately, I agree with you that we’re stuck with him barring injury. I don’t see Allen making a change unless he is forced to.

While the Penix of old was capable of beating top teams because of great play, it remains to be seen whether current Penix can. What we do know is that current Penix is more than capable of being the reason why we lose to a top 10 team. Can Tuttle give us average against a good team? Because average beats Cincinnati on Saturday. We haven’t seen OSU Penix in any other game before or since that game. And really, it was only half of that game. The first half was pedestrian. That game also happened in a completely empty stadium. We’re not going to (hopefully) see that setting ever again. That’s not to minimize that game, as it was an amazing game, but I’m not holding out hope that we see anything close to that from him again. The last play of the PSU game is what everyone remembers, but as a whole it was a very mediocre game from him. 19/36 for 170 yards, 1 td and 1 int. As far as leashes, I vote for no leash at all. Penix should be benched and Tuttle should start on Saturday against WKU. He needs game reps to get prepared for the gauntlet we have coming up. He’s completed 48% of his passes and thrown 6 interceptions against our two BCS opponents this year. 31 completions to our team and 6 completions to the other team. Potential has been the key word with penix. People have seen his strong arm and moments of greatness and thought about his potential for greatness. But at some point that has to actually materialize. Its his fourth season at IU. At this point, more often than not he’s been inconsistent and injury prone. I’m ready to move on, and if history is an indicator at some point we’ll have to because of injury anymore. He’s never played more than six games in a season, and he’s never lasted until the end of one.

Id go as far as saying Hoosier Hysterics is the biggest ‘non-official IU’ problem we have. They’re definitely the biggest fan-related problem we have. They’re straight up creepy. I’ve never seen an interaction between them and a player/recruit where i didn’t cringe. They’re a total liability and I feel bad for the players who have to interact with them.

We win today pretty easily with a game manager instead of whatever Penix was out there. Peyton Ramsey was a game manager in most people’s eyes. In 2019 he completed 68% of his passes for 8.2 Y/A. Penix’s calling card is his arm strength but that doesn’t really mean much when he’s wildly inaccurate and can’t get the ball to the right team. Through 3 games he’s completed 48% of his passes for 5.1 Y/A, and he’s thrown three INTs against both of our BCS opponents. Penix has thrown for more interceptions against Iowa and Cincinnati this year than Ramsey did in the entire 2019 season. If Tuttle can come in and throw for 200 or so yards a game, complete 60+ percent of his passes, and keep his turnovers down, he’d be a big upgrade over what we’ve had so far.

Not sure I see 5 wins left on our schedule. We’ll have to either beat all of WKU/Rutgers/Maryland/Minnesota/Purdue, or beat one of Michigan/Michigan State/Ohio State/Penn State. Or some combination of the above. Would certainly be a huge step back after the past two seasons.

It’s not like Penix ever scrambles past the line of scrimmage, though. He rushed for 5 yards on 4 attempts today. His athleticism helps him scramble outside of the pocket but he’s still not even completing 50% of his passes. I dont know if Tuttle will be any better but Penix isn’t the answer and we need to see if Tuttle is.

Apparently Penix might be hurt as Allen said he’s getting x-rays done. Probably has to do with the elbow.

He named Penix as the starter ahead of Ramsey before the beginning of the 2019 season. He did bench Lagow in favor of Ramsey in 2017, but he inherited Lagow. I could just see him being loyal to Penix and sticking with him longer than he should because he thinks he’ll shake off the rust and get back to the player he once was. We even saw a little of that today. After that third interception he trotted Penix right back out there at the end of the 4th. I would rather have seen Tuttle at that point.

44% completion percentage and 6 INTs against our two BCS opponents… yikes.

Through three games, Penix has thrown 6 interceptions and completed 49.4% of his passes. After NKU next week we play Penn State, Michigan State, and Ohio State. We don’t have time to wait for him to figure things out. Tom Allen seems too loyal to make a change though, imo.

It’s even worse after that last series. 17/40 for 224 yards and 3 INTs. We need to start Tuttle next weekend. NKU should be an easy win. Give him a game to get adjusted and prepared for the gauntlet we have coming up.

Last year was still fun but it’s looking more and more like a fluky season during a weird year.

This loss is 100% on Penix. 16/35 for 5.9 yards per attempt and 3 interceptions is terrible. He needs benched.

Far too often we just don’t look prepared.