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There's maybe something of a silver lining in this for TJD. Having to miss the 5v5 and the individual workouts/interviews because he has to isolate, while missing out on feedback, may mean he gets some more attention from teams during/after next season (highly likely he'll be back now imo) who didn't get to evaluate him now.

Seriously, if both Bates and JG take that real step up we’re going to be very good

He was selected but can’t participate

It is basically a positive -- he hasn't ever been considered a likely first-rounder, but getting selected reflects interest.

His getting selected to the 5v5 shows a level of potential draft interest.

I certainly do not think you have belittled or denied Galloway's value, and agree with Stu it's more that you and 2017 just don't think he'll be as good -- without a jumper -- as others such as Bates will be. But I do think you're discounting the contributions he has shown he brings on both ends (especially defensively) while overvaluing the need for him to shoot from deep. He'd be better all-around for sure if he could hit well from deep. But his contribution to wins, when healthy, is beyond clear, and has already been covered in this thread. He plays similar to another point, when he's on the floor the ball moves better, we score more effectively, and the overall D is clearly better. A few stats to add to the mix -- Assists per 100 Poss: he was 3rd on team at 5.1 (excluding Lander and Leal who barely played) the other 2 are X and Rob - so he assisted behind the two points. Steals per 100 Poss: he was 1st (excluding Duncomb). His D including lane reads is strong. FG% 4th (excluding Childress and Duncomb). Behind only TJD, Race and JG. Points per 100 Poss: 6th (excluding Duncomb, Lander, Childress) Win shares: 7th On the other hand, the stats also show areas he needs to improve on, beyond 3-point shooting, including Boards per 100 - last on team. That's kind of surprising to me but it's accurate. TO's per 100 - 3.8, 3rd highest on team (excluding the usuals). Like JG, he has to improve his handle. FT 65% - that's a real need https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/indiana/2022.html

^^ I think Trey's positive impact on both sides of the ball and to the team's competitiveness is clear. How many minutes he gets next year is to an extent up in the air with the incoming guys and developing impact of JG etc. but I can't see any conceivable way he's playing less than 18-22 barring injury, he makes the team better. Adding a decent jumper, and again I really don't think it needs to be from the arc, would increase his impact and imo would make him a genuinely dynamic player -- and kind of like early Troy, getting his drives from the wing/baseline under control would also bring a new level to his game. I'd bet on at least the latter this season, he is a hell of a player and you have to love his fire.

I’d personally like to see him work more on a Derozan - type game. He shot like 19 percent from deep so far. I’m always for development but that’s a big gap to fill and he has that twitch to his shot that he’ll need to re-work out of his form and that adds difficulty. But as quick as he is with the ball he can get to spots fast, think an elbow jumper, a bank shot, floater, and sideline shot would be better to focus on for his game - jmo

Good writeup. If he were a pg he could get away with not developing his shot. There are a few guys out there who are so good defensively and bring that toughness and ability to score in transition and at the rim that shooting from the wing isn’t necessary to their games but they’re so much the exception. Trey helps the team despite his shooting, we’re better with him on the floor, but man if he can just develop a serviceable jumper, even a good 2-pointer, his impact would soar.

So Tom Crean may be 'wierd' (lol, yeah), but he is an all-around classy guy / former coach. And here, he's about as dead on right as it gets. Nice to see

Sort of. As Race came in after reclassifying he was young and his body was nowhere near ready for B1G basketball. The pics of him when he committed vs. the next summer are pretty telling. He was definitely a good redshirt candidate, and it clearly worked out well, he emerged his junior year -- besides the redshirt aspect, it's a strong example of why helping players develop and continuing to invest in them, instead of giving up on them and/or belittling them after their frosh season, is worthwhile. I get really tired of reading people's negative throw-away comments on players during and after their frosh seasons, when the signs of how they could develop are all there.

Yeah people forget Race re-classed and then redshirted

In the NBA the "3" and "2" are effectively the same position just on opposite sides of the floor. College ball has been moving in that direction, along with the whole 'positionless' ball concept which is to bring in more versatile, mobile players who can cross-play, play outside, handle the ball some, shoot, and score inside.

If TJD could even show consistent mid-range / elbow shooting he’d be an easy first rounder. Don’t see him being drafted now, but whether another year at IU or the G League or overseas makes the best sense for him is his own personal decision. Still, regardless of what this guy says or the outlook generally on seniors getting drafted, he could def come back and show steady shooting and seriously boost his shot at an NBA career, but that would require him to show shooting and step outside his comfort zone to do so

It's genuinely disheartening and hard to hear that, in this day and age, IU has a coach doing this complete and total BS to any athletes / students, let alone women. What a complete and total piece of S this guy is. I've seen it first-hand in academy level soccer when my oldest was playing, but to see it at IU is just sickening. Good grief, kick this piece of S to the curb.