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You could also make an argument that the real success will be in the middle 3-4 or so guys. We probably know roughly what we're getting out of Burton, Sherrill and Yugi, but the difference between 5-8 in conference vs top 3-4 in conference is probably how well Mustaf, Harris and Lindsay or maybe Sisley perform.

Yeah, I think we're largely saying the same thing. That's also why Zeisloft was my comparison. A guy averaging 6ppg at the mid to low-major level isn't going to cost a lot, but has a specific skill (shooting in this case) that you can utilize in spots. That way it's not a waste of a spot even if the guy isn't getting a ton of time. Anyways outside of a backup big, anyone we add at this point is going to most likely not get a ton of time. So, I think you look for specific skills you can utilize situationally in those players.

Thank you! Can't believe I couldn't remember his name. He was so important that season.

That's kind of why I specifically picked Zeisloft as the example. Remember, Crean took a lot of heat for that pickup. Zeisloft averaged like 6ppg at the mid-major level. He wasn't a guy you had to promise a ton of minutes too, but then he ended up earning them. With that said, I agree. One more serviceable big, and then you're looking to supplement any other additions IMO with a specific specialist (ie. Zeisloft type). Going back to that same year (2016). The Michigan big that transfered in and was huge in the Big Ten title run. Again, if I remember correctly, he had pretty much fallen out of the rotation for Beilein the year before, and was not a really sought after transfer, but then played a big role for IU.

Would love to see a Nick Zeisloft type added with one of those spots.

Probably couldn't get him specifically, but a guy like Terrence Hill from VCU. Just a bucket-getting guard off the bench that can also take some ball handling duties in spurts.

Also think we need a combo guard off the bench that can score alongside Burton, but also handle the ball when Burton is out.

Obviously Michigan was led by their "Big 4" of Yaxel, Johnson, Mara and Cadeau. But what I felt took them from good to great was the other 4 main guys around them. McKinney, Cason, Burnett and Gayle, Jr. Those were legit power conference role players. Replace those guys with Enright, Dorn, Miles and Bailey and Michigan isn't winning a title. All that to say, of Sherrill commits we have at least 3 (Burton, Sherrill and the Turkish big) of our lead guys. Question on how good we'll be is whether we can add another "lead" guy and then our role players are Mustafa, Harris and fill in a couple more (maybe Moody)? Can we get one more "guy", or are we starting both Mustafa and Harris. Can we push Harris to a shooter off the bench role? Great start, lots to still figure out.

Sounds like they may have some more in the bank to burn...

But the donor has no ROI. I guess there's a lot of rich people out there, but it can't go on forever when there is no chance of a monetary return on the investment.

I would assume at some point super rich people get tired of forking over hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars annually with basically 0 ROI. I guess if you're program has some people with billions. But rich people usually don't get there by handing money out with no chance of a return.

Insane. Don't think these two are worth this amount, if accurate, but I guess that's the market.

Hilarious thread if you read the comments on the original post. Bama fans blaming Michigan. Michigan fans pretty much admitting it's Dusty but they don't care. A couple Illinois fans complaining about Dusty taking Johnson last year. Even a couple Indiana fans praying that IU is the team tampering lol...

I constantly find myself reading @WayneFleekHoosier's posts and getting mad. I want to reply and go at him for the negativity and expectations that at the moment are too high. It frustrates me. Then I usually take a beat and don't reply. Then I take another beat and wonder why I don't reply and get into a back and forth with him. During that time I realize it's because I know he's probably right. I get it, we haven't even signed a player yet, we have to let things play out before we judge things, and I'm usually way more on the patient side. But, my worry all season was whether DeVries had the cache to swing big on this landscape, as well as the funds, especially after essentially wasting a year and creating no momentum. How come Louisville can get Flory and Shelstad to take a joint visit and IU can't even get in with one of them? How come Michigan can bounce back from the Juwan Howard experience like it never happened, but we're still discussing Mike Davis, Crean, Archie and Woodson? This program has no juice and has been lifeless for so long. Just frustrating. Feels like we're watching the same movie over and over. Ok, rant over. I'll go back to managing my expectations and being more measured now.

Thank you for pulling that. Definitely don't want to create a false narrative. That's my bad. I must be thinking of someone else.