JSHoosier

The Yankees would be well advised to do what they have to to keep Soto. Steinbrenner and Cashman probably wouldn't be able to show their faces in NY ever again if they let him walk.

I misread the finish, my mistake and stand corrected on that point. Still stands that UCONN was trending up, aside from 20-21 their overall record was better every year. No one would've called for his job here.

Hurley had Rhode Island trending upward and won the conference in his last season there. At UCONN, even before his titles, they were trending up with tournament game wins in year 3 & 4. Not a exactly good comparison. If a coach had IU trending like that everyone on this board would be fine with more time.

Being great against bad teams and pretty bad against anyone with a pulse clearly means keep him; the fact we've had worse just shows how abysmal IU has been at hiring coaches, which just makes Woodson the tallest midget.

Now he makes 4m since he got an extra mil for what should be bare minimum expectations.

This is true, but it'd still be a far better hire than Woodson was. Stevens showed he was a great coach, Woodson's coaching led to zero demand for him before IU called.

Yeah I'm in the camp that says when you know a new coach is needed then you don't root for wins, all that can do is delay the inevitable, especially as poorly run as this program has been. A new coach is needed. He's not getting carried to an Elite 8 or anything; I've said it before an "I did my job" banner is the only banner Woodson would ever put in the rafters.

Pope would be underwhelming for sure but at least he has college experience; Woodson's HC career was over for almost a decade until IU called because no one else wanted him, if he didn't play here 40 years ago it'd be a completely laughable hire and no one would've been excited. I don't expect Stevens, but that doesn't mean you stick with a lousy coach and stop trying. Or we could give him another unearned raise and hang a "I did my job" banner since that's only banner he'll ever hang.

He doesn’t really need a Kansas or Arizona on the schedule because there will be plenty of coaches in conference make him look foolish.

No but they can be misleading. In this case his competition includes the likes of Mike Davis and Archie Miller. It's more an indictment of how incompetently run IU is than anything.

Get ready for the excuses when they under achieve.

A part of me wonders if IU hired ADs that aren't qualified so there's a reason to not let them do their job; at this point it wouldn't be shocking. The last 25 years have been a masterclass in how to mishandle and possibly ruin a once great program; putting aside fandom, the level of incompetence has been astounding.

Yep. Not about the program now, if it ever was, it's about protecting Woodson's feelings.

Exactly what I feared when IU wouldn't sack up and get rid of him.

Nolan Ryan is still alive too. Best living, I'd say it's probably between him and Maddux.