General Coach Candidate News

[Crazy about IU 258]

3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm hearing that Dolson has been having some serious behind-the-scenes talks with Chris Collins' representatives. 

Scott and the IU administration like that Collins is from a fellow B1G school, runs a clean program and has taken them to their first three NCAA tourneys. They think he can really prosper at IU with better NIL and easier admissions. And Collins thinks he'd be able to more at IU than at NW. 

Dolson, who knows his hoops, also thinks Collins' is a whiz when it comes to X's and O's. Plus, we just can't beat the guy, so we're looking to get him to join us. I wouldn't be surprised when Northwestern's season ends to hear an announcement of Collins to IU. 

OK, I completely made that up. Just trying to create a diversion from all this sordid Chris Beard debate. (BTW, I actually do think Collins would be a very good hire for IU). 

I will go on record saying he is on my top tier list. I love it 

 

[iubb 3,906]

Time for a DAD JOKE



Why did the pirate balloon stay inflated?

 

 

 

Because it's full of Arrrrr!

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6 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I sent some recent posts to the Beard thread. Nothing deleted, just trying to steer that discussion to its place.

Love you guys

Love you 2 bro

Edited Friday at 04:04 PM by FartsMcGee

[go iu bb 8,125]

2 hours ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I don't think anyone is arguing that he isn't a good coach, just that his career numbers don't really warrant the weird obsession with him. Even if you include his one season at LR (17-3) and his D2 time he is a career .520 coach in conference games with one final four and two elite eights. He is an excellent non-conference coach. He has done well in his  NCAA experience. He is not (as of yet) remotely elite in conference games at the P5 level. One (tie with KU) conference title.

 He is a good coach. He is not (as of yet) the second coming of RMK and has baggage many folks are uncomfortable with. Dolson will have to weigh those things. I also think winning at TT and OM is hard, but GM seems to have done well at TT so who knows. I think good coaches produce good results, sometimes location is really overstated as a marker of coaching chops (I am skeptical of Collins and Brownell for example-- I think Beard would win more than either of them have at NW or Clemson respectively).

Anyways, doubt he gets beyond interviews and vetting since he'd be at UK or UL if he could, but I will trust Dolson even if I disagree with his candidacy for HC at IU. 

FWIW and without comment: just being charged with something like that would keep you from being hired in my industry. It does not matter if the charges are dropped, they are visible on an FBI 10-year and would preclude someone from getting called back, much less getting to the interviews required for attaining the clearance needed. 

You're doubling counting the E8 on the way to the FF. The way you say it makes it seem like he's had 3 runs in the tournament instead of 2.

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7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I sent some recent posts to the Beard thread. Nothing deleted, just trying to steer that discussion to its place.

Love you guys

Mods finally woke up. /s

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25 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Beard has his own thread.  Take the beard stuff to that thread please 

Sorry!  I did not know that.  Thanks!

[Stuhoo 86,558]

 

RK	Team	REC	PTS	TREND
1	Auburn(61)	27-2	1525	-
2	Duke	26-3	1458	-
3	Houston	25-4	1396	1
4	Tennessee	24-5	1326	1
5	Florida	25-4	1247	2
6	St. John's	26-4	1179	1
7	Alabama	23-6	1176	1
8	Michigan State	24-5	1165	-
9	Texas Tech	22-7	947	1
10	Iowa State	22-7	918	1
11	Clemson	24-5	905	2
12	Wisconsin	22-7	815	1
13	Maryland	22-7	628	3
14	Louisville	23-6	606	5
15	Missouri	21-8	603	1
16	Memphis	24-5	560	2
17	Michigan	22-7	494	2
18	Purdue	20-9	454	2
19	Kentucky	19-10	417	2
20	Marquette	22-7	409	1
21	Saint Mary's	27-4	399	2
22	Texas A&M	20-9	364	10
23	BYU	21-8	287	2
24	Arizona	19-10	162	2
25	Mississippi State	20-9	87	1

 

Others receiving votes: VCU 85, Vanderbilt 78, Oregon 37, Drake 18, UC San Diego 17, Illinois 16, Ole Miss 13, Gonzaga 8, UCLA 8, Kansas 5, High Point 4, UConn 4, New Mexico 2, Creighton 2, Akron 1

 

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So currently, both McCollum and Olen's guys are ranked ahead of Kansas, Illinois, Oregon, UCLA, UConn, Creighton, and Gonzaga

[Hornsby 3,567]

Opinions are generally judgement calls based upon information that is not comprehensive.  Have you met any of the candidates in this process?

Nope and that's why I don't judge people I've never met. I leave that up the the purity crowd online who are more than happy to judge people based stuff they read online.

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[ceast11 172]

Just a general FYI for everyone: Only positive posts regarding Bradley Kent Stevens are allowed on the General Coaching News Thread.

Edited Friday at 04:14 PM by ceast11

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Professors here in town want Whitten gone, if she ok's the hire of Beard, that is all they need to push her out the door. 

She just signed an extension... she is not going anywhere. You do not know what you are talking about.

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3 minutes ago, ceast11 said:

Just a general FYI for everyone: Only positive posts regarding Bradley Kent Stevens are allowed on the General Coaching News Thread.

You're right. All 36,988 (now 36,990) posts in this thread are pro-Brad Stevens.

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2 minutes ago, HOOSIERINJURTLAW said:

She just signed an extension... she is not going anywhere. You do not know what you are talking about.

You do realize what you posted and what Chris posted can be true at the same time.  

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4 minutes ago, ceast11 said:

Just a general FYI for everyone: Only positive posts regarding Bradley Kent Stevens are allowed on the General Coaching News Thread.

I read that and thought, “Wait, Bradley’s coach isn’t Kent Stevens.” 
Yeah, time to head back to the coffee pot.

[jimsorgi 845]

5 minutes ago, ceast11 said:

Just a general FYI for everyone: Only positive posts regarding Bradley Kent Stevens are allowed on the General Coaching News Thread.

The biggest criticism you received for calling the board delusion was a single confused face. So sensitive.

 

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1 minute ago, jimsorgi said:

The biggest criticism you received for calling the board delusion was a single confused face. So sensitive.

 

Jimmy Sorgi, no special sensitivities here. I’m sarcastic and silly on most all my posts. Enjoying reading the back and forth banter on BTB! 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Nope and that's why I don't judge people I've never met. I leave that up the the purity crowd online who are more than happy to judge people based stuff they read online.

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We are all judging every candidate based off of stuff read online, watching games, etc.  You’re all twisted up over someone finding religiosity objectionable in a leader of their chosen team.  It’s just a personality trait criticism , but you swing to the word judgement to indicate persecution.

It’s okay if people disagree and reject faith based leadership.  It’s also okay to pay a full tithe and follow the Lord in all you do.

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8 minutes ago, TadQueasy said:

You do realize what you posted and what Chris posted can be true at the same time.  

Let me tell you how the legal world works. If they fired her for hiring a employee. They would get sued for not only her current contract but for 2-3x damages. That is how the real world works. Iu is not paying her $15mil because she hired someone. Chris does not know what he is talking about.

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1 minute ago, HOOSIERINJURTLAW said:

Let me tell you how the legal world works. If they fired her for hiring a employee. They would get sued for not only her current contract but for 2-3x damages. That is how the real world works. Iu is not paying her $15mil because she hired someone. Chris does not know what he is talking about.

What if said employee (with a strike against them already) had an incident that put a blight on the university, could she be held responsible then?

[the_jackal 237]

Since rumors/info/names were shared more freely last night, i feel comfortable sharing the names i heard were on Scott's list. The fact my 5 names are the 5 Rabby's heard (excluding brownell) makes me go hmm, but not in a good way ha. below is the list, with additional context on where my guy told me we were at with them, and he remains very convinced no coach has been hired or signed any paperwork. Also no NDAs involved whatsoever, lol

• Brad Stevens: has told us no twice as of last thursday. loves life in the NBA and his exact words "don't get your hopes up with Brad, he isn't coming". at the end of the day i'm just a fan like everyone else here, i see the rumors, flight tracking, and understand it's now or never for him this go around. i choose to continue hoping it's him until we hire someone else.
• Scott Drew: multiple conversations between Dolson and Drew's camp, and strong "mutual interest" on both sides. Rabby seems to think Drew is no longer on the table, so maybe somethings changed the last week.
• Otz: Scott having conversations with his camp and "mutual interest". didn't think it was as far down the line as talks were with Scott Drew at the time.
• Mccollum: at the vetting/gathering info stage, but seemed to think Scott really, really liked him and could do great at IU.
• Beard: at the gathering info/backgrounds stage. i still think he is a long shot personally, but fully trust this hire if they think it's worth it once vetted. these background searches (i've seen first hand) literally leave no stone unturned. they will have all the opportunity in the world to say 'yes' or 'no' to Beard once all info is obtained.

coaching searches are funny. so much different info going around, it's hard to know what's real and what isn't and things change in an instant. great job to Scott on this search, he's making a lot of us look silly. i wouldn't be shocked if our new coach is a name not listed above, and sincerely hope it isn't Brownell. If it is, he better bring in 1 hell of a portal haul and win big year 1, the fanbase's patience with him will be very thin.

Lastly, it's quite hypocritical that we finally have a President who understands the importance of Athletics, wants to win big in all major sports, is doing due diligent backgrounds on all viable candidates, and is met with disdain because she (1 of the few with actual information pertaining to Beard's background) would have the gall to actually consider him as a candidate to win big at IU. how about be happy we finally have a president who gets it and McRobbie isn't walking back through that door.

Sorry for the long post, happy friday all. hope we get some good news very soon

- Jackal

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24 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

You're doubling counting the E8 on the way to the FF. The way you say it makes it seem like he's had 3 runs in the tournament instead of 2.

To me, they count if you win or lose, doesn’t have to be the last round made. Two elite eights that produced 1 FF probably would have made more sense the way I look at tournament success.