Mike Woodson and His Coaching Staff

[lillurk]

On 3/8/2022 at 11:34 AM, lillurk said:

1. Feel what you feel, post what you post, but the season’s not over. I understand the likely outcome, and I think everyone agrees the NIT would be a disappointment.

2. …but there are degrees of disappointment. Caring about a basketball team isn’t zero sum. The program is in vastly better position than it was a year ago. If IU misses the tournament it will be by a very small margin — flip a game here or there. And IU was in tons of close games. That’s a different sort of disappointment than getting run off your own floor by Indiana State on the first night of the season.

3. If you think IU’s failure to win close games 2019-present is reflective of some unchangeable character that infected the program, I understand being big mad. I think it’s more than likely just a couple things: bad luck, and less talent (especially at guard).

4. The luck, well, just shake your head. The talent can be fixed. IU is the sort of place where it can be fixed without miracles. And one of the big sources of the dearth of guard talent isn’t coaching anywhere right now.

5. This dovetails with the source of some other frustration, I sense: whataboutnextyear? A good question, of course. I don’t know the answer. But Woody did alright last summer, knows more of what to expect and what he needs this time around. IU had the best defense in the conference this year, and I think more guys CMW and co. pick will mean they get better on the other side of the ball.

Would just update this to say:

IU met my goal for this season, assuming they’re in. That they beat PU, ND, OSU, UM, U of I on the way there? Won two at least in the BTT? All gravy, as is everything else they do this season.

[8bucks]

So snapped 9 game winning streaks to Purdue, Michigan, 4 game streak to Illinois, won 20 games, 2 in the BTT and making the NCAA. Pretty good first year for Woody.

As stuhoo reminded us in the NW thread, he also reintroduced some tough discipline at a time we really needed wins. Very good first year and hopefully we grow from here.


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[MikeRoberts]

On 3/11/2022 at 5:17 PM, cthomas said:

Personally, I think CMW has done a good job with this team. When was the last time that IU has been playing really good basketball at this time of year? He has kept them engaged during trying times and has them securely in the dance. And, he has done it while maintaining control of the program. For all the second guessing he received for the suspensions before the Northwestern game, the bigger picture is more important than any one win or game. The culture is changing. I, for one, am glad to see it.

I’m not as disappointed as I was before, but I had this team winning 24 games. Look at our schedule, it was there. Also, we did not end the season well in general, we’re 3-7 down the stretch. 2 good wins in the bigten tourney has clouded visions a little including mine

[cthomas]

11 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I’m not as disappointed as I was before, but I had this team winning 24 games. Look at our schedule, it was there. Also, we did not end the season well in general, we’re 3-7 down the stretch. 2 good wins in the bigten tourney has clouded visions a little including mine

Fair enough. There is plenty of room to interpret the results. While I think when taken as a whole, the team looked much improved over the last couple of years. The glaring exception was the three point shooting. That deficiency alone cost several wins including Iowa. The way they were nearly always competitive, for me, was a significant step forward.

[IU Scott]

28 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I’m not as disappointed as I was before, but I had this team winning 24 games. Look at our schedule, it was there. Also, we did not end the season well in general, we’re 3-7 down the stretch. 2 good wins in the bigten tourney has clouded visions a little including mine

Our last 4 losses were in OT at OSU, by 3 on a last second shot vs Rutgers, lost by 2 at PU and today by 3 on a last second 3.

[Alford Bailey]

For the overall lack of quality perimeter play Im happy with the first year. Very easily could have 4 more wins. We were good when X played well. Now this staff needs to upgrade the talent level in the off season.

[NOLA Hoosier]

One knock down shooter and this is a top-tier B1G (and National) team. Just need to recruit some sharpshooters (for real this time) and we are gonna be a machine going forward. Defense is there, culture is building, just need some talent. It *should* come

[killerbeezer]

On 3/11/2022 at 6:08 PM, Chris007 said:

So snapped 9 game winning streaks to Purdue, Michigan, 4 game streak to Illinois, won 20 games, 2 in the BTT and making the NCAA. Pretty good first year for Woody.

There was some pretty serious trepidation when he was hired and throughout the season but, if we’d known these facts at season start, I think the fan base would have been ecstatic. 

[LamarCheeks]

7 hours ago, NOLA Hoosier said:

One knock down shooter and this is a top-tier B1G (and National) team. Just need to recruit some sharpshooters (for real this time) and we are gonna be a machine going forward. Defense is there, culture is building, just need some talent. It *should* come

The fact that we really don't have that knock down shooter sorta reminds me of the whole Forrest Gump adage: Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get. Kopp and Stewart were supposed to be those knock down shooters -- but they sure haven't been. To just watch Murray out there yesterday, knocking down 3 after 3 so effortlessly while we kept bricking them ... 

[NOLA Hoosier]

1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said:

The fact that we really don't have that knock down shooter sorta reminds me of the whole Forrest Gump adage: Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get. Kopp and Stewart were supposed to be those knock down shooters -- but they sure haven't been. To just watch Murray out there yesterday, knocking down 3 after 3 so effortlessly while we kept bricking them ... 

I mean just one could potentially create 6-12 more points per game. That’s winning every close game. It’s easily fixable going forward, I just hope we get kids that live up to their hype or pull a good one from the portal. 

[Trish]

On 3/11/2022 at 6:08 PM, Chris007 said:

So snapped 9 game winning streaks to Purdue, Michigan, 4 game streak to Illinois, won 20 games, 2 in the BTT and making the NCAA. Pretty good first year for Woody.

But he doesn’t have an addiction to Diet Coke or doesn’t have 3 boxes of gum next to him on the bench. Is he really the coach we want?? :D 

[MemphisHoosier]

6 minutes ago, Trish said:

But he doesn’t have an addiction to Diet Coke or doesn’t have 3 boxes of gum next to him on the bench. Is he really the coach we want?? :D 

He does drop the occasional bomb on national television - that has to count for something, right?

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, MemphisHoosier said:

He does drop the occasional bomb on national television - that has to count for something, right?

Chit yeah.  :)

[Ryno6284]

Woody is IU through and through!  I didn't go to school here, but I grew up Loving this basketball team!  That is enough for me, I think he has the best in mind for this program!

[IUc2016]

I am trying to find this interview because LOL

[southsidehoosier]

6 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

I am trying to find this interview because LOL

“Shiiiiiiiiiii…..man” - Woodson

[Hovadipo]

47 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

I am trying to find this interview because LOL

Coaches vs Zoom has been a big bright spot coming from the pandemic.

[Demo]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33253706/ranking-2022-ncaa-tournament-men-basketball-coaches-players-1-68
 

Interesting little article. Woody checking in at #3. Probably correct, though you could make a pretty good argument for #2. Also, there is a cliff-like drop off from 4 to 5.

[Hovadipo]

33 minutes ago, Demo said:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33253706/ranking-2022-ncaa-tournament-men-basketball-coaches-players-1-68
 

Interesting little article. Woody checking in at #3. Probably correct, though you could make a pretty good argument for #2. Also, there is a cliff-like drop off from 4 to 5.

So, this is entirely from me not paying attention, but until I saw his picture in the Oakland uniform I had no idea Drew Valentine was Denzel's brother.

[go iu bb]

On 3/11/2022 at 1:58 PM, mark1981 said:

Now if we could just win three in a row......

I want to win 7 in a row...