Player decisions

[Hillsdale87]

Doubt it happens, but TJD needs to work at the 4 over the off season. He needs to be able to be a 4-5 swing guy for us. He's certainly not going to have much NBA luck at the 5.

He needs to at least make people respect him to 18 feet. I think he can do that. Right now guys play off him. If they have to play up on him out there he can take them off the dribble to get good looks at the rim


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[Southside]

4 minutes ago, Free Jurkin! said:

He needs to at least make people respect him to 18 feet. I think he can do that. Right now guys play off him. If they have to play up on him out there he can take them off the dribble to get good looks at the rim
 

Yup. Gonna say he just needs to work on his shot in general (including FTs). At the end of the day, he's been very effective inside for us, but he just doesn't have the size to play the 5 outside of CBB. I'm not sure if Archie lacked development effort with TJD, or just had to play him at the 5 out of necessity. I know Brunk's availability hurt, but I just don't know what to think. If he could at least develop into a solid 10-15 JS guy, that would help big time.

[Alford Bailey]

I’m really curious how Phinisee fits in to CMW plans especially if we add Xavier Johnson?

[OldBuddy67]

14 minutes ago, Southside said:

Yup. Gonna say he just needs to work on his shot in general (including FTs). At the end of the day, he's been very effective inside for us, but he just doesn't have the size to play the 5 outside of CBB. I'm not sure if Archie lacked development effort with TJD, or just had to play him at the 5 out of necessity. I know Brunk's availability hurt, but I just don't know what to think. If he could at least develop into a solid 10-15 JS guy, that would help big time.

Agreed! If we all think back to Cody in year two he took and made some 15-18 footers and it really opened up driving lanes for Vic and Will! TJD does that and next year can be a lot  of fun! 

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[Uspshoosier]

 

[sirhoosierlot]

50 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I’m really curious how Phinisee fits in to CMW plans especially if we add Xavier Johnson?

Could see him moving off the ball. I think that fits him better anyway 

[yogisballin]

I can’t speak for them but I know he has a Zoom with Illinois Saturday.... 
Illinois has been going HARD after him. I’m not optimistic.

With Adam Miller leaving and Ayo graduating. It makes sense. Don’t think Armaan will be back either


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[Southside]

53 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

I really can't wait when we see tweets that our story and brand is "winning" again.

[cthomas]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I’m sure it’s going to have to happen but my small mind just can’t see TJD on the perimeter just yet. Maybe for short amounts of time 

Or is CMW building a monster that no one sees coming.

[coonhounds]

Or is CMW building a monster that no one sees coming.

No way I see tjd being a 3 point shooter that would be impressive but any kind of jumper would do wonders. 10 15 foot which totally is possible i think that is what they're looking for

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[Brass Cannon]

46 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

No way I see tjd being a 3 point shooter that would be impressive but any kind of jumper would do wonders. 10 15 foot which totally is possible i think that is what they're looking for

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That paired with a stretch 4 could be deadly 

[HoosierFan1994]

1 hour ago, yogisballin said:

With Adam Miller leaving and Ayo graduating. It makes sense. Don’t think Armaan will be back either


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Earlier today I thought he would be back because of Trayce. Now that I see IU is going hard after Xavier Johnson I don't think so...One would have to think Johnson and Stewart are two of the three starting guards. Franklin would be the third. I'm not sure Lander would be returning if that was the case. Based on what we have heard he's almost certainly coming back. Add in Phinisee and that would be a decent backcourt. Hope Armaan comes back, but I'm starting to second guess myself. Only so much ball to go around. It sounds crazy but I'll always root for him. 

[cthomas]

At this point, I think CMW will make the best decision for IU basketball. Guys who are more interested in their playing time than the team's success should move on. I'm not ragging on Franklin, because I really like him, but we need guys who are all in. I'm ready for a coach who is undeniably in charge of our program. I think we finally have that. People who mistake CMW's quiet demeanor for being soft and in for a rude awakening. He will love and be there for his players but will put with zero nonsense. And, it's about time we had that with IU basketball.

[Golfman25]

7 hours ago, cthomas said:

At this point, I think CMW will make the best decision for IU basketball. Guys who are more interested in their playing time than the team's success should move on. I'm not ragging on Franklin, because I really like him, but we need guys who are all in. I'm ready for a coach who is undeniably in charge of our program. I think we finally have that. People who mistake CMW's quiet demeanor for being soft and in for a rude awakening. He will love and be there for his players but will put with zero nonsense. And, it's about time we had that with IU basketball.

These kids hit the jackpot with a guy like woodson.  May not have been his recruits but he’s giving them more than a chance to buy in.  The guy knows basketball and will definitely help these guys get better.   

[DWB]

From a current player's standpoint, I can see some of them having a "Holy $__t" moment, because with the possible exception of Trayce, everybody is starting from ground zero for playing time. You have to earn it. 

From a transfer player's standpoint, he's coming in on a level playing field to earn minutes. He's not automatically going to be #6-8 on the depth chart and hope to move up. He has an equal chance to start as anybody else.

I like it !

[bleedhoosier]

I'm so curious to see what Phinisee does under a new coach mentally. That kid was/is in his own head bad. Almost like someone stole his confidence somewhere. Or that must have been one hell of a concussion. Rob can be an absolute stud for 20 mins, and then he's gone again. He randomly plays top level defense.

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, DWB said:

From a current player's standpoint, I can see some of them having a "Holy $__t" moment, because with the possible exception of Trayce, everybody is starting from ground zero for playing time. You have to earn it. 

From a transfer player's standpoint, he's coming in on a level playing field to earn minutes. He's not automatically going to be #6-8 on the depth chart and hope to move up. He has an equal chance to start as anybody else.

I like it !

My own opinion is playing time should be earned every week. 

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, bleedhoosier said:

I'm so curious to see what Phinisee does under a new coach mentally. That kid was/is in his own head bad. Almost like someone stole his confidence somewhere. Or that must have been one hell of a concussion. Rob can be an absolute stud for 20 mins, and then he's gone again. He randomly plays top level defense.

I’ve wondered this myself. He showed a lot of promise as a freshman and has just stagnated since then. If the issue was coaching—and In not exactly convinced it is—he has the talent to play to an all-B1G 3rd team type of level.  
 

If he were to turn it around, TJD flourishes and maybe one other guy can step up, I think the pieces are there to be a top five team in the conference and obviously a tourney team. Maybe even 5-7 seed. 
 

We’re obviously in the honeymoon phase here and this is all contingent on Woodson working out. But it’s looking like the player situation is going to work itself out to where we have decent talent. 

[8bucks]

I'm so curious to see what Phinisee does under a new coach mentally. That kid was/is in his own head bad. Almost like someone stole his confidence somewhere. Or that must have been one hell of a concussion. Rob can be an absolute stud for 20 mins, and then he's gone again. He randomly plays top level defense.

When RMK left both Fife and Coverdale flourished in a more open relaxed offense. It seemed Rob was one that Archie often implored to speed up while he casually came up court. Never knew why exactly but have assumed the guys did not really trust Archies offense. Some of TJDs comments support similar ideas of life playing for him.

I am hoping that Woodson can find out how to get him out of this fog and get him to play free and confident. He could be a big piece that we are all forgetting like a Coverdale and even Fife were


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[MikeRoberts]

I hated Archie’s offense but it still makes no sense why Phinisee played at a snails pace. Rarely, if ever looked to push it despite seeing Archie on the sideline swinging his arm giving the go signal