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Dude, start where you want. Include whatever you want. Tell me how any of your complaints make the PAC system better than the B10 in terms of champs/runner ups. And tell me if there's a significant difference between the conferences in terms of top 15 draft picks the last 10 or so seasons (feel free to start wherever you want lol)... And what about Sean's team being arguably the best in the PAC since he's been there, given he's a Matta tree guy, and does a lot of what Izzo does?

Interesting article from about a year ago..... Talking about B10 expansion, and identifying "fits" https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/b1g-expansion-which-schools-make-the-most-sense-which-make-no-sense/

Thanks. Remove one of the Iowas, it adds up to 20, and 4 teams per division.

I'd go West - USC, UCLA, Oregon, Nebraska, Baylor East - Rutgers, Maryland, PSU, OSU, UNC or Clemson or FSU or Miami Great Lakes - Wisconsin, NW, MI, MSU, ND MW - Iowa, IU, PU, IL, MN

The numbers are the numbers. You can say the championships are a long ways back, but the runners up are not. It's not skewed. It is what it is. Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative or preferred system. At the end of the day, AZ and Oregon have been the best two programs in the PAC the last 10 years. Sean Miller grew up under Matta, and does a lot of the same things Izzo does. So you could say he was B10ish in the PAC. Aside from his press, I don't know much about Altman at Oregon, so can't really say one way or another about system or style. But heck, if you want to talk about what recruits like, or don't like.... I'd be more interested in how many guys each conference goes in the top 10 or 15 (lottery-ish) each year in the draft. I'd guess if you look back in the last 10 years, not much difference. And I'd expect a lot of the PAC guys are from Miller's system.

My guess... For USC and UCLA, they spend a whole week, every other week in B10 territory, doing remote classes. For B10 teams going out, one week long trip each season to check both boxes, doing remote classes.

stuff is coming in hot lol... a lot of conflicting stuff too Finebaum said ND is a must get for the ACC, B10, and SEC. Said the ACC collapses with ND. Expects ND is getting bids for all 3 lol. His sidekick said Swarbuck said (last year) that for ND to join a conference, it would take at least one of three conditions. The need to secure a playoff path. The need to secure a TV partner. Or not joining would be a significant financial loss.

I used to be a 60-70% travel guy (domestic and intl). The flight duration itself didn't really bother me. On quick trips (WC), so long as I kept my home TZ sleep schedule, I was more than fine. If I was out there for a week, I'd bite the bullet, stay up super late, and hope on PST. A little sleepy the next day, but I wouldn't call it fatigue. Not a frequent user of 5 hour energy, but it works very well when I do need it. Always carry a few when heading to the WC or across the pond. I'm assuming the games will mostly be noonish PST / 3-4 PMish EST. Get out there the day before, hit the pillow early, play, and can leave that night or early the next day.

I get it, you don't like the style. But here's how the finals have gone since 2000.... B10 PAC Champ 2 0 Runner up 7 2 I mean, feel free to look at however you want. But if we're talking top teams, the B10 has gone deeper more often. And honestly I don't care for the B10 style of play... But I'm certainly not going to try and replicate what the PAC does. If I'm going to change things, I'll look at the ACC, B12, and BE for best practices.

The B10 has not won, but they've been frequently in the championship game over the last 20 years. I can't recall the last time a PAC has been in a championship game. And point is, doubt the B10 is changing style because of USC and UCLA. Both sides will adjust based on outcome, but guessing UCLA and USC will be doing most of the early adjustments. Both have been decent lately in BB, but AZ and Oregon have been the top 2 teams out there for the last 10 years.

I don't think the PAC has one a natty in 25 years. So I'm guessing it's the clobbering route.

Amateurism and student/athlete have been dead for a while now. I hate it as well. With super conferences and NIL, it's just more visible today. But the iceberg has been there for a while. I'm waiting for the HS kids at IMG, and other academies to start asking for NIL... only halfway kidding....

Yup. They screwed themselves. They (ACC/PAC) also screwed themselves by not making any moves. Both conferences should have been talking to each other along with the B12 on how to carve up things and create a conf, or firm agreement, to compete with the B10 and SEC. I think it's likely to still happen though, but they'll end up with less pickins now. Buzz about the B12 already making some moves, likely on the phone with the PAC. ACC better not stand still too long, and they need to be giving ND the reach around lol.

I'm guessing all of the teams (FSU, Miami, Clemson) would prefer the B10 over SEC.