General Coach Candidate News

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9 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Who lives in Holland Michigan?

This guy?

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1 hour ago, akumanina said:

If Dolson can keep Beard on a short leash successfully, Beard can be the best candidate. The more I think of this IU job, the coach has to have outgoing personality. No more introverts or weirdos. We need a normal, outgoing person who can coach. 

I love Beard the coach, but there's the allegation that he strangled, bit, and assaulted his fiancée while at Texas. She recanted, but the University of Texas felt there was enough evidence to cut him loose. Maybe we do a background check and find out she embellished the accusation and the decision makers at Texas were simply not willing to take the heat to support him. Even in that situation, Dolson and Whitten would be putting their reputations and jobs on the line if something similar happens at IU.  I don't see them taking that chance with other options available.   

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10 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

The more I think about this the more I want Beard. We're not hiring someone to teach a moral and ethics class. We're hiring someone to win basketball games. If he can keep his nose clean then it'll be 20 years of excellence. Imagine this time-line: we hire Dusty and in turn UM hires Beard. In the next 5 years IU continues to struggle and May is on the hot seat meanwhile UM has a final 4 and another 2nd weekend trip. 

Well, that’s certainly an interesting hypothetical. How about this one: IU hires Beard who comes in and has an excellent year finishing top 3 in conference and let’s say a Sweet 16. Then in summer ‘26 he runs a light in downtown Bloomington, hits a minivan and blows .18 on site. So you now have to fire him because you have absolutely no choice and you’re starting another search. Meanwhile, Dusty May has continued to do what he has done ever since he became a head coach and that’s win and be rock solid while doing it. I doubt either of our hypotheticals is terribly likely, but the fact that mine is one that needs to be considered within a reasonable range of outcomes is why it almost certainly isn’t gonna be Beard. But as I’ve said before, if it is Beard I’ll support him enthusiastically unless he gives me a reason not to. 

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Risky would be hiring someone with a history of domestic violence and alcohol abuse.

Risky would also be hiring someone who has quite literally never played against a ranked team, and has never beaten a team in the NET top 40,  and has coached less than 25 division one games. There are tons of coaches that have great success at lower levels. But there are very few that can manage an operation as complex, big money, and involved as Indiana basketball.

That doesn’t mean that McCollum won’t succeed greatly somewhere, it just means that he would be extraordinarily risk for Indiana. There are a whole truckload of options that are neither Chris Beard nor Ben McCollum.

 

Risky was hiring a 60 something head football coach from James Madison.

McCollum will be insanely successful when a P4 school snatches him up.  Would not be surprised to see Iowa 'retire' Fran just to hire him.  

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1 minute ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

Stevens grew up an hour north of Bloomington and would’ve played for IU if he got an offer guaranteed. Matt Painter would’ve played for IU too if he got an offer guaranteed.

Glad Stevens didn’t get that offer as we would be back to the argument about hiring an”IUguy.”

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14 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Who lives in Holland Michigan?

Probably some 14 year old that likes to troll us IU fans.  

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8 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

The problem is he hasn’t proven he can recruit at a high level… yes he can coach but he also brought 4 players who he’s coached for years who are comfortable with him. If I knew he could successfully recruit then I totally agree. Winning in the MVC and getting players to buy into your offense is a lot easier to do in that conference… players in the P4 aren’t gonna be so easy to recruit because they know stats is what gets them to the league. 

No coach has proven he can recruit at a P4 level until he is given the chance to coach at the P4 level.  

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3 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

No coach has proven he can recruit at a P4 level until he is given the chance to coach at the P4 level.  

I get it and I think if IU didn’t screw up the last three out of four coaches and I guess some would consider Crean a failure as well then I’d be more inclined to be down for him. Personally I’d go Stevens then May then Drew.

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1 minute ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I get it and I think if IU didn’t screw up the last three out of four coaches and I guess some would consider Crean a failure as well then I’d be more inclined to be down for him. Personally I’d go Stevens then May then Drew.

Stevens is my choice 1A, 1B, and 1C.

I personally think McCollum's resume is better than May's  Yes, it's DII, but the level of domination he had there is unmatched since Mid 60's through early 70's UCLA.

I would be fine with Drew, but he's not coming to IU.  

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17 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I want no part of Beard under any circumstances. Too much baggage and too many unanswered questions about his past for me.

What else is there about Beard besides what happened while at Texas?  Others have alluded to it and say there are other skeletons in the closet.  I’m not doubting it, but genuinely curious. 

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1 minute ago, 5fouls said:

Stevens is my choice 1A, 1B, and 1C.

I personally think McCollum's resume is better than May's  Yes, it's DII, but the level of domination he had there is unmatched since Mid 60's through early 70's UCLA.

I would be fine with Drew, but he's not coming to IU.  

Completely fair

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1 minute ago, 12345Brad said:

What else is there about Beard besides the Texas stuff?  Others have alluded to it and say there are other skeletons in the closet.  I’m not doubting it, but genuinely curious. 

Booze 

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17 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

This guy?

This is who we are following on Twitter? Sweet Jesus 

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I want no part of Beard under any circumstances. Too much baggage and too many unanswered questions about his past for me.

You'll be in a tough spot if we hire him.

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1 minute ago, 12345Brad said:

What else is there about Beard besides what happened while at Texas?  Others have alluded to it and say there are other skeletons in the closet.  I’m not doubting it, but genuinely curious. 

There was only the domestic violence in which the charges were dropped.  Now I don’t know exactly what happened and I guess most on here don’t know either.  There are always 2 sides to every story and I know Beard can coach and I think we should leave it up to Dolson and others to do their due diligence to determine if Beard could work or not.  Let’s let him decide!

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31 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Risky was hiring a 60 something head football coach from James Madison.

McCollum will be insanely successful when a P4 school snatches him up.  Would not be surprised to see Iowa 'retire' Fran just to hire him.  

I also think he’ll be the next head coach of Iowa.

But you didn’t pose the question “Could McCollum be a great success?” If that was your question, the answer would be a simple “Yes.”

Instead, you posted about Beard being risky. As Demo said so well, Beard is almost zero risk as a winning coach but a real risk off the court.

McCollum? He has never even coached against a ranked team, never has been a player, assistant coach, coach, or even a grad assistant at a P5 program, and has never beaten a top 40 team. Cignetti was a top assistant for Saban. McCollum would be the equivalent of hiring a younger Geno Auriemma; dominant at a completely different level; never even tried it at this level.

THAT is risky.

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5 minutes ago, 12345Brad said:

What else is there about Beard besides what happened while at Texas?  Others have alluded to it and say there are other skeletons in the closet.  I’m not doubting it, but genuinely curious. 

I'm not aware of anything else... but something that egregious, even once, and even recanted is enough for me to say "no thanks". Clearly there was enough to it for Texas to dismiss him... he walked away without a fight/argument - to me that's telling, as well.

There are plenty of quality guys out there who can coach a college basketball team, and coach it well... It's too big of a risk for my part... I would not put my daughter in that situation, and would question those who would.

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I think McCollum is as good a basketball coach as you are going to find but I don’t think that means he is the guy for IU this particular cycle. In an ideal world where the program was already rolling and looking to hand over to a great coach for the next 20 years, he’d be close to perfect for me on paper. But the time horizons seem off because he’d absolutely need a few to several years to learn the ropes at a big program like IU. There’d be a few learning curves. Don’t doubt he could figure them out but it would take him probably the better part of a decade. So while I think he’d be successful here long term and wouldn’t hate the hire (in the very unlikely scenario it gets to him) I think we get a bigger fish with some more name recognition who probably recruits at a higher level overnight so we can start winning big hopefully right away. 

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2 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

There was only the domestic violence in which the charges were dropped.  Now I don’t know exactly what happened and I guess most on here don’t know either.  There are always 2 sides to every story and I know Beard can coach and I think we should leave it up to Dolson and others to do their due diligence to determine if Beard could work or not.  Let’s let him decide!

There’s more in that closet than just that situation but I’m not getting into it because I’m not 100 percent sure the details on it 

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8 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

This is who we are following on Twitter? Sweet Jesus 

You ever been to Holland?