General Coach Candidate News

[JSHoosier]

1 hour ago, GP711 said:

Scott doesn’t announce Woodson retirement when he did without being confident that he has his guy

People were confident on Stevens last time too, then he publicly stated he has no interest.

It's not happening. Even if the new owners wanted to go in a different direction another NBA franchise would scoop him up.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

 

On a side not I love all the new people joining but some of them have no idea how this process works. 

Thank you Cathy.     (I'm kidding)

[Artie86]

2 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

I've been at work all night so forgive me:

Is that real or sarcasm?

.....quite honestly, I am having a hard time understanding what he is saying! lol

[Chris007]

9 hours ago, Bowhunter said:

Too lazy to read back . Why all of a sudden two  out of three insiders not as confident in we have our guy?  What has changed.? Never bought  it anyway but still had some glimmer of hope. 

Which two? I thought it was just RTZ

[ib4iu]

50 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

I wish people would quit with this Stevens stuff, we’re not getting that guy. IU is nowhere near as desirable as it was say 15-20 years ago. There is no way Stevens is leaving his current cake job for this headache here in the B1G. Each post I read, if I see something regarding Stevens. I just move on and the quicker some of you let go of this pipe dream, the better. Zero chance people

IU may not have a chance but a new president and AD that want to win is enough to make it a better job than it was 20 years ago. Add to that the NIL and it’s most certainly the best job in the big ten. 

[Chris007]

8 hours ago, VO5 said:

Yeah 100%. It’s not Stevens. Dusty is the guy if we can make it happen. Young, alum,  has the actual pedigree. Im in. People need to accept that BS isn’t coming here. We do this every coaching cycle. It generates clicks. Let’s be realistic 

Yeah 100% it's Stevens not Dusty. I don't really know this but just wanted to put an absolute on it like VO did

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, Pryght said:

But he has said no, we just don't want to listen.  Seventy-two hours after "we got our guy" and "we got him" posts, we're seeing "60/40" posts from the same "insider."  This place is wild...

 

 

And now entering the game we have Pryght.  Glad to see you decided to join in the fun and games.

[Hoosierfan2017]

8 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Stevens is an option til he says no. Not sure why some think that isn’t a thing?

Because there’s no reason to believe that he is an option. He’s turned the job down multiple times and then left coaching entirely. 

[GP711]

10 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

People were confident on Stevens last time too, then he publicly stated he has no interest.

It's not happening. Even if the new owners wanted to go in a different direction another NBA franchise would scoop him up.

So someone stating they have no interest 4 years ago means they can't have interest now? Crazy world we live in. Either way respect for sharing! 

[ib4iu]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Because there’s no reason to believe that he is an option. He’s turned the job down multiple times and then left coaching entirely. 

This logic of he told us no 4 years ago so that no last for eternity is a wild concept to me. The answer very well may be no again, but IU better actually get a no again. To not ask and assume it’s a no because he said no last time in crazy. So much has changed in 4 years. 

[Pagoda]

1 hour ago, Pryght said:

But he has said no, we just don't want to listen.  Seventy-two hours after "we got our guy" and "we got him" posts, we're seeing "60/40" posts from the same "insider."  This place is wild...

 

I recognize your name from the Rivals site.  BTB is a lot better than the Rivals board, which is a mix of (i) a bunch of old guys crying nonstop that we won’t hire Beard, (ii) no mods present allowing for endless fights between posters, (iii) PU trolls, and (iv) no interesting sources of info.

Not everything is true over here, but there are some good nuggets of info every once in a while.  And it’s generally entertaining and often funny, which is what message boards are really about… none of us is hiring the next coach.

[Chris007]

I'm going to say this. We're not going to be talking to a guy since late November about our job coming open. Discuss salary, give NIL assurances, make sure they feel comfortable coming here this time, and then the first weekend the job opens the person goes yeah NO Thanks. 

Scott and his team, have put a lot of time in effort in this back-channeling to try to give us the best shot possible at landing him. He has listened, given us feedback, asked for certain things, and told us he's considering it. 

We haven't even gotten to the formal part of the job interview yet and won't for some time. Not like Stevens needs to interview but we're not going to sit down with him for some time.

He might say no. All of you people who have said Stevens is 100% not coming to IU will be able to post I told you so. But to say we have no chance, you're flat-out wrong. 

Nothing is happening with any candidate this month I can tell you that. So relax watch some games, go outside and get some air. 

Mike Woodson is not the coach next season and an upgrade is on their way. Go Hoosiers!!

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, ib4iu said:

This logic of he told us no 4 years ago so that no last for eternity is a wild concept to me. The answer very well may be no again, but IU better actually get a no again. To not ask and assume it’s a no because he said no last time in crazy. So much has changed in 4 years. 

IU will certainly ask him again. But there’s no reason to believe the answer will be any different this time beyond pure hope  

But you’re right that so much has changed in 4 years. Stevens quit his coaching job to take a cushy front office job. He’s gonna jump back into coaching at one of the biggest pressure cookers in the country? Doubtful. 

[Bowhunter]

1 hour ago, GP711 said:

Scott doesn’t announce Woodson retirement when he did without being confident that he has his guy

I disagree. Scott had no choice but to announce it when he did. The boos and emails were coming in fast. Dusty May was coming to town that weekend . It would have been an ugly moment for Indiana basketball if he waited. Dolson was just trying to stay in front of that game. It wasn’t because we are hiring Stevens or Dusty May. 

[Dave from Dayton]

For those wondering if my report of a meeting at Zionsville airport between a Stevens representative and an IU representative is straight or snark...I tried to make myself sufficiently unclear.

It is not entirely non-fiction.  Love those double negatives.

(Spoiler alert...do not believe it entirely.)  But it could have happened that way.  Hope.

 

[Juwan Moye]

Reading some of this discussion, I don’t think people understand basic probabilities.

Is it probable that Stevens comes to IU? Doubtful.

Is the probability that Stevens comes to IU zero? No.

 

The information being provided suggests that the probability of him joining this time around is higher than last time. That doesn’t mean “100%” and just because he didn’t join last time doesn’t make it “0%”.

 

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[Magnanimous]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm going to say this. We're not going to be talking to a guy since late November about our job coming open. Discuss salary, give NIL assurances, make sure they feel comfortable coming here this time, and then the first weekend the job opens the person goes yeah NO Thanks. 

Scott and his team, have put a lot of time in effort in this back-channeling to try to give us the best shot possible at landing him. He has listened, given us feedback, asked for certain things, and told us he's considering it. 

We haven't even gotten to the formal part of the job interview yet and won't for some time. Not like Stevens needs to interview but we're not going to sit down with him for some time.

He might say no. All of you people who have said Stevens is 100% not coming to IU will be able to post I told you so. But to say we have no chance, you're flat-out wrong. 

Nothing is happening with any candidate this month I can tell you that. So relax watch some games, go outside and get some air. 

Mike Woodson is not the coach next season and an upgrade is on their way. Go Hoosiers!!

There is another element / added bonus for Stevens this time - college basketball has become drastically worse since this job was open four years ago. There are no great teams anymore. The only household coaching names left are Self and Calipari, and they’re both winding down. Despite winning two NCs, no one cares about Hurley.

CBB needs to be saved nationally, and Brad Stevens would bring immediate attention to the game again. That may increase the “pressure cooker” element of this job, but he would also garner immediate sports celebrity status on Day 1. 

[OKHOOSIER]

10 hours ago, 12345Brad said:

UM agreed to the buyout … Louisville did not. 

I asked before but it got buried, what are people basing this on? I’ve seen nothing anywhere other than Louisville wanted him and he declined. Eye on CBB mentioned again yesterday that one of the reasons he didn’t take UL was the fish bowl aspect. They’ve mentioned it several times, never anything about a buyout demand. It’s also not really that low for a first time P4 coach. I’m not trying to antagonize, I’m genuinely curious how this narrative of Dusty wanting a low buyout started. 

[HoosierAccipiter]

24 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm going to say this. We're not going to be talking to a guy since late November about our job coming open. Discuss salary, give NIL assurances, make sure they feel comfortable coming here this time, and then the first weekend the job opens the person goes yeah NO Thanks. 

Scott and his team, have put a lot of time in effort in this back-channeling to try to give us the best shot possible at landing him. He has listened, given us feedback, asked for certain things, and told us he's considering it. 

We haven't even gotten to the formal part of the job interview yet and won't for some time. Not like Stevens needs to interview but we're not going to sit down with him for some time.

He might say no. All of you people who have said Stevens is 100% not coming to IU will be able to post I told you so. But to say we have no chance, you're flat-out wrong. 

Nothing is happening with any candidate this month I can tell you that. So relax watch some games, go outside and get some air. 

Mike Woodson is not the coach next season and an upgrade is on their way. Go Hoosiers!!

 

[AH1971]

10 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I asked before but it got buried, what are people basing this on? I’ve seen nothing anywhere other than Louisville wanted him and he declined. Eye on CBB mentioned again yesterday that one of the reasons he didn’t take UL was the fish bowl aspect. They’ve mentioned it several times, never anything about a buyout demand. It’s also not really that low for a first time P4 coach. I’m not trying to antagonize, I’m genuinely curious how this narrative of Dusty wanting a low buyout started. 

I seem to recall May coming within hours, maybe minutes of taking the Louisville job and then Michigan came in at the eleventh hour and kind of blew everything up. A lot of Louisville people thought May was accepting the job on the day he signed with Michigan.