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IMO, if IU had truly been his dream job, he would have left Michigan after one season, just like DeVries left West Virginia. Goodman is an idiot, but in this case I think he's probably right. Dusty never seriously wanted the IU job because (1) he didn't want to coach in a fishbowl environment, and (2) he was concerned about how a potential failure at IU could affect family members who still live in Indiana. Those are reasonable concerns. That said, circumstances have changed dramatically. He just won a national championship and is now headed to the NBA. Concerns about the IU fishbowl or the possibility of failing there are likely much less significant than they were a year ago. If both DeVries and Dusty struggle over the next few years, and college basketball reaches a more stable place with NIL and roster management, I could easily see the stars aligning for Dusty to become IU's next coach. From an IU perspective, yesterday felt like a win-win. Either DeVries succeeds and IU has its coach, or he doesn't and Dusty may eventually become a realistic option. One other thing worth noting...over the last 30 years, only two coaches who left college basketball for NBA head coaching jobs have finished their NBA careers with winning records. The NBA is hardly a guaranteed path to long-term success.

Nice opening...

It's hard to imagine an international guy who declared for the draft signing up for a reserve role at IU. Hope you're right, though.

Even objective measures suggest the roster is talented. The real question, and what will ultimately determine his fate, is whether he can get that talent to function effectively within a system.

That’s fair, though I think Manhertz’s length can offset some of the size concerns. It’s also been a while since we’ve had a freshman class this talented.

Why are you so down on Manhertz? Is it mainly the strength/weight concern? He has great length with a 7'0" wingspan, and he may end up being our best three-point shooter next season. I want to see the freshmen play before I go full doom-and-gloom. I’m high on all three, especially Moody and Manhertz.

We have 4 guys who can play the 1 (to varying levels of success). We have a boatload of guys who can play the 2 and 3 (to varying levels of success). We have 3 guys who can play the 4 (to varying levels of success), with most likely another 4/5 who most likely has yet to be named. We have 3 guys who can play the 5 (to varying levels of success). It's too early to tell if "it's terrible depth."

I've heard many say the same about Harris and Lindsey too. Good problem to have. Based on things I've read, Mustaf appears to be the ultimate team player, so I would guess that, assuming his talent-level is comparable with Harris, he will start the season as the 6th man.

I think we have depth, it’s just unproven depth. DeVries and his staff either genuinely believe in the freshmen, or they believe those guys need significant opportunities to develop, regardless of early results. You could argue that this approach prioritizes/maximizes 2027–28 and beyond more than prioritizing/maximizing 2026–27, which greatly frustrates many on this board.

I’m excited to see Trevor Manhertz get on the floor. He shot 42% from three (on 3.8 attempts per game), is 6'8" with a 7-foot wingspan, and can put the ball on the floor. If he adds some strength and bulks up, he has a chance to be a really intriguing player. Watching his film, it’s easy to see why programs like Louisville and Duke were so high on him.

It seems that Alabama’s Preston Murphy and Texas Tech’s Achoki Moikobu, both of whom had previously worked with DeVries, may have taken a long time to decide they weren’t interested in joining his staff. That hesitation hurt us last year. However, pivoting to Kenny Johnson may ultimately prove to be a blessing in disguise.

IU (82.6) is ranked #2 in Torvik's Projective Effective Talent ranking, right behind Duke (89.1). Projected Effective Talent is Torvik’s way of estimating the overall quality of a roster after accounting for more than just recruiting rankings. It factors in things like transfers, returning production, experience, and expected playing time to project how much talent will actually contribute on the court. A team can have highly ranked recruits, but if they are inexperienced or unlikely to play major roles, their effective talent rating may be lower. https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php?sort=tal&conlimit=

Knowing Carr has a relationship with the coach doesn’t magically validate the rest of the story you invented. You took one small fact and built an entire narrative around it with no evidence. C'mon bro...

That’s not really “speculation” though. Speculation is connecting dots from actual information. This is just inventing a narrative with zero evidence and presenting it like insight. If you admit you don’t know whether DeVries has even scouted or spoken to the kid, then claiming he’s only trusting “Carr’s friend” is basically making things up.

But...why did DeVries refuse to watch any of the tape? Sounds like Woody, not DeVries.