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I really feel like this is a huge hire. Maybe the game changer we need to get back on track.

Honestly, neither would matter. We’re likely looking at 14-15 new players on the team next year. This was a one year project. It didn’t work. We didn’t build momentum for next year or develop a couple guys for a sophomore jump. This season of Indiana basketball was just this season of Indiana basketball. And now it’s over. Really never felt a connection to this team in any way. It was mediocre basketball played by players who I barely got to know, and will not remember in six months That part hurts to admit. It hurt seeing balconies empty all year. Hurt that we didn’t have a brand of basketball that was interesting. Probably watched the fewest games in a season in my 35 years as an IU fan. I just hope they can get my attention back somehow next year. Because losing interest in one of the things that has been a part of your identity and a source of hope and sometimes joy, feels weird. I just want them to make me care. We’re at a point where that would be an achievement.

Nice little segment of the seniors coming off the floor. Makes you think, think about the years past coaches and players….we had several players get in trouble off the court and a few personalities that were crappy. Not this team. This is probably one the cleaniest crews we’ve had in some time, and most likable kids we’ve had the pleasure of putting on the uniform, no bad talk on Twitter, no putting down the fan base during a speech, no lazy play . Just wore the IU uniform with pride and actually hustled their tails off, and represented the university well! Go IU!

Lmao Cig is so damn awesome.

One day left of radiation treatment! Also, this is 1000000% MUST WIN. Very literally can't lose this. Honestly need to win by 15+ and have full control of it. Not only would losing to such a garbage team be incredibly embarrassing, but it'd put quite the hamper on any March possibilities.

They say he's not involved with coaching, but if the Lakers win a game next week 58-54, you'll know why.

GM role

probably pencil one in for the next 3 years if you want. Would be shocked if he left

Is there a Cliff's Notes version?

Pretty impressive since we’re the only bad team on there. I have to say is a pretty good showing by OSU too given they weren’t stellar. IU has some of the best fans in the country easily.

To me, it is truly astounding that our fan base still cares that much about our college basketball team. Never have so many cared so much about such a mid program. If we ever are a perennial top ten program again, look out.

FWIW, Brian Evans, who tends to be very much an IU cynic on podcasts, says he personally knows Ryan Carr well and speaks to him regularly, and also says that Carr is absolutely excellent in pretty much every way that matters.

Punting work today and hitting the Missouri Valley Conference qtrs. The friend I’m going with and knows way more about that conference than I do, gave me 3 names to watch for portal purposes: 1) Sam Orme(Belmont)- Carmel kid who’s busted out this year pretty good. Averaging 13 and 5 on 38% from 3. 2 years of eligibility. Given the 2 ‘26 kids, Dorn and, presumably, Sisley can’t imagine a 6’7” wing shooter would be a high priority, but who knows. 2) Jaquan Johnson(Bradley)- averaged 17 and was 1st team all conference and 1st team all defense. Averaged more steals than to’s. 2 years of eligibility. Since Norton was there he feels like at least worth checking into. 3) Drew Scharmowski(Belmont)- The one I really want to see. 6’10” and apparently possibly still growing. Averaged 11/6 with a block and a steal in 19mins a game and was 1st team all conference and 1st team all defense. 2 years of eligibility. My friend loves him. Says he’s a straight up winning player. At minimum, anyone coached by Casey Alexander absolutely knows how to play. That guy is as good a developmental coach as there is. Should be fun.

This season has been fine/solid/good enough: First year of a new coach sitting at 18-12. Bubble tournament team - currently 50-60% likely to get in. A bunch of very likable players - Sam Alexis, Enright, Lamar especially for me. Incoming recruiting class for next year is already strong. Finally playing modern offense. First time in eight years for that. Much of the program buzz is gone because for decades we have been a middling program, we aren't exceeding expectations, and because the fan base is understandably much more into our undefeated national championship football team. But overall? This is better than the past two years of Woodson and pretty much all of the Archie era.

Multiview on the big screen is a new feature since I went to YouTube TV. Champ week is coming

Will Wade lost and I didn’t get to see it live

Can always count on Rabby to bring the hard hitting insight lol

I think a “how is Carr doing so far” thread is overdue.

That’s always the excuse. It’s a good way to get a bad coach an extended stay too. Cig didn’t excel because of lack of pressure. That’s insane. Cig excelled because he’s confident, cocky, and capable. He had a plan and he executed it and it worked. He said, outright he was going to win. He brought pressure onto himself that he didn’t need to do nationally. (Sure he over performed likely his own expectations, but he never cowers) DeVries is not Cig in any form or fashion. Hiring someone with a similar confidence and a proven system would be a start. We HAVE never done this.

Not nearly as high on Sisley as the rest of the board but it would sure suck to have a freshmen from Indiana who grew up a fan of IU get poached by Dusty. Not doing everything we could to sign May will probably end up on the Mount Rushmore of IU athletics failures.

I mean, if you’re going to listen to that guy….. ;)

If this isn’t the ultimate IU basketball fan Freudian slip.

Kansas has plenty of money. And Self can coach. But he’s really struggling (relatively speaking) to adjust to the NIL era. Lots of poor fits he hasn’t been able to coach up. Annoying center from UM, Storr, and the malcontent superstar frosh, etc… What Dusty and Underwood are doing goes way beyond money. Guys like Mara, Cadeau, and Johnson weren’t exactly portal darlings. They’re nice players who Michigan is getting more out of than their last coaches did. Perfect example of “fit.” Self has been the opposite—every year he has a malcontent or high priced guy producing less than at his last stop. That’s what Carr has to help with. And quite frankly Devries needs to be able to do when they get here. The roster this year wasn’t as bad as our record but most of the pieces didn’t fit together and I don’t particularly think the coaching really took for some of them either.

No bid stealers, rest of the bubble teams lose, Devries cashes in his IOU from last year, Wilkerson buys someone on the committee a cadillac and I think we’re dancing.

177 days until North Texas has to answer for this.

Oh my God. When people that went to the Peach Bowl tried to describe the sonic boom when Ponds had the pick 6, I didn't believe it due to the lack of quality audio from TV or the radio call. Now I get it.

Anyone that knows this program, knows the most likely scenario this week. - We beat NW or PSU and look good doing so. - There will be excitement that follows the next 24 hours about the possibility of beating Purdue and making the NCAA Tournament. - We proceed to lose to Purdue (and it probably won't be close).

But I was told he was the closest thing to a slam dunk, sure thing hire IU could have made last year... lmao

So I will ring in here, I think it was fed up after Woodson and at a certain point, you could tell this team just isn't built to do the "it" we want it to. They are about at their ceiling right now which is to squeak into the tournament and probably be one and done. They are still in a position to do that but honestly you kind of look around at the programs in our area and after just seeing a national title run in football and sitting around watching 19-12, 8 minute scoring drought, can't defend very well basketball just isn't that exciting. We have been "rebuilding" for 10 years and frankly the program is just stale. The crowd was stale. The play was stale. There is just no juice, like it doesn't even really excite or bother me too much while watching the games anymore. I was all in on the football team during the CFP run and when I contrast it to this it is the difference between being invested and watching out of habit and nothing better to do. And when the bulk of the team is going to be gone next year, you aren't even watching for the future. The argument we have heard the past 10 years is that the fan base has held the program back with our negativity and we all just need to shut up and go away for awhile until they get things cooking again. They are getting their wish. Twitter was about as docile after a disaster like last night as I have ever seen out of the fanbase and that wasn't because of understanding, it is apathy.

Jared Kelly - Four months after a torn ACL, Lee Beebe Jr. was back deadlifting 500 pounds.

I think a lot of us have been relatively happy with Devries from a coaching standpoint, but less so with his year 1 roster building. So hiring a guy like this to help build the roster feels like outstanding news.

Love this. It really is what this deal’s about. And made all the sweeter by happening at Wisky’s expense.

Just heard Chase Johnston from HPU made his first two point shot of the entire year to take the lead with 11 seconds left. Nothing beats March Madness

He’d make a great advisor to a coach trying to learn the ins & outs of B1G basketball. (I’ll see myself out…)

My friends. Amidst all of this gloom and doom, I feel the need to off topic-ally remind Hoosier Nation that in just 178 days, the extraordinarily lovable Tyrique Tucker will be sacking and dancing for the glory of Old IU:

The worst part is that this year was a completely wasted one. No culture. No player development. No real vision for the future. We have to start over from scratch once again.

I think in addition to Dusty May, we're gonna be lamenting letting Josh Shertz get away.

Nah... Basketball titles: IU 5, Purdump 0 Football titles: IU 1, Purdump 0 They truly suck

I choose clap!

You never count your NIL, When you're biddin' in the portal, There'll be time enough for countin', When the roster’s done.

You need roster retention. Can’t go out and buy 11-12 new players and rely on freshman every single season. Dorn and Sisley are absolutely pieces you need to keep. How much they play and what kind of role they take on largely depends on their development, especially in Sisley’s case, but you don’t want to get in the habit of throwing 12-13 new faces together every single year. You need some level of continuity.

Yeah -- Tuck got fouled. But it shouldn't have come down to that. This was friggin' ugly.

Tom chimes in with some positive views. Good stuff.

4 new Contracts with only 2 seasons coached absolutely has to be a record