General Coach Candidate News

[Motley's]

19 minutes ago, Demo said:

This McCollum pace of play stuff is killing me. On 3 viewings of Drake I’m guessing he’s probably a 65 possession guy, something like that. Someone less lazy than I am is welcome to check me on that. So he’s not Nate Oats. But I guarantee that Matt Painter and Dan Hurley are sub-70 possession guys. Average fans couldn’t tell the difference between 65 and 70 possessions if their lives depended on it. Aesthetically pleasing offense has zero to do with pace and everything to do with the quality of shots you’re generating. You run a 26 sec possession with crisp ball movement that results in your guy burying an open 3 and someone’s trying to me tell that’s boring? Then you’re not a basketball fan. Find me a guy with a vision of how to play who knows to recruit to it and teach it and dude is gonna win here.

They are last in D1 with 62.1 possessions per game. Purdue & UConn both average about 68 per game, as you said. ILL & KY average 74, MI 73.3. IU 71,1

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/possessions-per-game

 

[Jet812]

1 hour ago, Trish said:

Moving on from Woodson, the candidate needs to have a name that gets the Boosters out of bed. 

I bet Dolson did.  I posted weeks ago, I think he rounded up support & big $$ & thought he’d get his man, thus all of the posts from Jerry, RTZ, Chris, etc.  But he missed again & a bunch of the people that were sharing info early on were counting their money still sitting at the table so to speak, & now he’s trying to push Beard because he’s proper screwed.  Just conjecture though.

[Lebowski]

3 hours ago, Hornsby said:

I really don't get the mccollum love given our current situation. I also don't get people seeming convinced he would win here after what we saw with archie. Are people just blinded by cig and think mccollum is cig no matter what

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For me it's about his resume. He has rings, wins, and doesn't have any down years.  It's way more impressive than Archie and believe it or not, Coach Cig as well.

His point guard production from his system reminds me of the three titles Knight won. It's still a point guard game in college.  Has been for decades. Wherever he ends up, point guards will consider playing for him.

I was at the UE v Drake this year and his team had an off night but they were still the most cerebral team on the court.  Each player knew their role.  They didn't take dumb shots and played as a team.  I haven't seen team basketball out of Bloomington in a long long time. 

The next IUBB won't need years to get a winning product on the court because a coach can build his team through transfers on year one.

Having said all of this, I still think IU is a job coveted among the coaching circles. The resources alone is extremely attractive for a coach.  So I don't think he will get hired here. But I do think he'll be a successful coach wherever he ends up. He's already successfully proving he can quickly transition into D1 by recoding the most wins in the entire country. 

[Kentuckysucks]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

What happened to dolson has his guy?

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Something obviously came out of left field again.  No one could've seen it coming.  Caught everyone by surprise.

[Motley's]

17 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Been thinking about this for a minute. If Tier 1 and 2 guys are all a hard “no”… just hear me out.

Chris Collins was raised by a very successful NBA coach.

Chris Collins played for an all-time great coach at Duke. He learned about winning, and was surrounded by winners. He was also that timeframe’s “player you hated most.” He would bring that toughness mentality we have been missing. Remember just a couple of seasons back when his backcourt was top notch defensively.

Chris Collins has won at a place that historically never wins. He’s had to build teams while dealing with the academic restrictions that the university prides itself on.He has had little NIL support, and until recently, had to recruit players to play in a glorified high school gymnasium.

Chris Collins is pretty smart guy. Duke has fairly high academic standards as well. I think he would be able to handle the fish bowl that is IU basketball.

I would take Collins over McCollum , Schertz, Brownell, or several other of the tier 3-4 guys that have been mentioned here. The only other guy I might take above Collins is McDermott, however the age difference favors Collins.

I'm with you on this. 

[str8baller]

24 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said:

This was true 20 years ago.  Is it true today in the NIL landscape?  I legitimately don’t know.  Kentucky tried to pull Drew and were unsuccessful.  That itself is not 100% indicative.  I guess we will see if UNC and Kansas come open in the next couple of years.  I would be curious on what type of candidate they get.  

I’m not sure why it wouldn’t hold true now. The haves and have nots have only increased in disparity. I guess it is possible it doesn’t. But what’s the point of getting all these big donor commitments for guaranteed NIL pools if it doesn’t help you land the coach you want? 
 

Even the guys down the list are P5 guys…McD, Brownell, Devries… so if those guys are out because we can’t pull P5 coaches anymore (nvmnd the fact that when anyone asks about McCasland, everyone just assumes he’s Texas bound), then we are truly down to a world where McCollum is the leader in the clubhouse. 

[Trish]

7 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

What happened to dolson has his guy?

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Season isn’t over. 

[HoosierSadaseci]

10 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

What happened to dolson has his guy?

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Who says he doesn't?...

[RaceToTheTop]

15 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

I’m right there with ya but he’s a Chicago guy , and just making the tourney is extension / raise worthy season at NW . I would guess he’s pretty happy being at home with little to no expectations. 
 

but yes I think with IUs resources he would kill especially as I’ve said before recruiting the state of Indiana he’s already found a couple of gems (Barnhizer , McIntosh, and now Windham ) 

With zero resources and playing the second half of conference without two of his best three players, it’s a victory that they made the BTT.

[Scotty R]

We sports fans are a weird bunch. We all have candidates we like and would like to see hired and we spend hours trying to make others see what we see. I like McCollum and would like to see him hired so why do I care if others don't like him. Why do we try to justify our opinions and try to change others mind because im the end none of it matters. IU will hire a coach who they feel is the best fit to coach IU. All of us will have a choice after the hire the next coach. You can either support the choice or find another team to follow.

[P92]

35 minutes ago, HoosierMatty said:

At this point if we can't get a big name I would rather take McCollum rather than hire someone like Brownell. 

Exactly. If we’re gonna hire Brownell or someone like him, we might as well just keep Woodson.

[tyappleg]

Checking in to see discussions of Brownell and Collins. 

[Woodsonshump]

We’re going big. We’re going after Bruce Weber. LOL

[IU5355]

So without reading the last 40 pages. Is it safe to assume this search is not going well? 

[Scotty R]

8 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I’m not sure why it wouldn’t hold true now. The haves and have nots have only increased in disparity. I guess it is possible it doesn’t. But what’s the point of getting all these big donor commitments for guaranteed NIL pools if it doesn’t help you land the coach you want? 
 

Even the guys down the list are P5 guys…McD, Brownell, Devries… so if those guys are out because we can’t pull P5 coaches anymore (nvmnd the fact that when anyone asks about McCasland, everyone just assumes he’s Texas bound), then we are truly down to a world where McCollum is the leader in the clubhouse. 

All the proof you need is the hires from blue bloods the last few years to see that top coaches aren't leaving their current jobs for another job.

UCONN Hurley Rhode Island

UK Pope BYU

UL Kelsey C of C

UNC Davis Assistant coach

Duke Shchyer Assistant Coach

UCLA Cronin UC

[go iu bb]

1 minute ago, IU5355 said:

So without reading the last 40 pages. Is it safe to assume this search is not going well? 

Not really. It is safe to assume that no one outside of a small group know how the search is going and that group is being quiet.

[spe317]

2 minutes ago, IU5355 said:

So without reading the last 40 pages. Is it safe to assume this search is not going well? 

We know exactly the same as we did a month ago. 

[HoosierSadaseci]

3 minutes ago, IU5355 said:

So without reading the last 40 pages. Is it safe to assume this search is not going well? 

As I said in a previous post...this is exactly how Dolson wants it to look...

[JustWinBaby]

3 minutes ago, IU5355 said:

So without reading the last 40 pages. Is it safe to assume this search is not going well? 

I wouldn't make that assumption, no.

We just got a kick in the nuts from our resident hater, Jeff Goodman.

[BA47591]

My least favorite phrase is "but with our resources."