General Coach Candidate News

[ap2345]

38 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I see 0 chance Brad Stevens wants a college basketball GM job. The people taking those roles are not in the same stratosphere as someone of Stevens’ profile IMO. 

Anyone suggesting that doesn't understand what the position does.

[RoadToZion]

Sam loves to listen to himself talk. That’s all I have for now. 

[PartyintheVillas]

8 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Pat Kelsey was a homerun. Sign me up

We need to remember he was maybe the 5th preferred candidate after Louisville struck out and had to scramble a little. The same thing happened at Kentucky and they are having success so far as well. Resume, preparedness, and fit can all line up in strange ways. Like maybe if Tom Crean was at UCLA and Steve Alford were at Indiana, the fit works out for both of them when maybe they aren't great coaches at other places (complete made up hypothetical don't kill me for Tom Crean and Steve Alford references.) Maybe Cronin can kill it here but someone like Scott Drew can't. It doesn't always work out like on paper or internet message boards.

[Hoosierfan2017]

I’m hard to please, but Devries isn’t the worst name I’ve heard thrown out there. Brownell and McCollum being two I’d put below Devries.

Hopefully we get Scott Drew and don’t have to call down to the Devries tier, but I’d be leaps and bounds over our last hire. 

[Bowhunter]

If I was a guy that liked attention and was known for missing on things. I’d bet the other way this time on Stevens. Odds should be in Sam’s favor. 

[8bucks]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

It could be but I don't agree with that from knowing some other things that happened last offseason. 

Can you expand on things that happened last off-season?

[iu eyedoc]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

It's almost a joke of an "extension" for a guy that may win the conference in year 1.    

Yeah, when it was announced I figured the number would be something like 8yr/48M total with a $12M buyout.  A  5 year 25M contract seems rather noncommittal by UM.

[Muskie plays the four]

1 hour ago, iubb said:

Today is Tuesday:
So todays leader in the clubhouse for the IU job is Tonya Harding

She made a decent movie 

[iu eyedoc]

1 hour ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

so who is the leader in the club house now for the HC gig?

If the club house has an open bar...Chris Beard

[Mopladysman]

12 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I tried this the other day with comparing McCollum to some other candidate:

Other than "being really good in D2" name one category that McCollum is better than Devries from the following:

• P5 experience and wins
• D1 high school recruiting success
• D1 portal recruiting success
• Agent interaction
• Big alumni base, and big organization success
• Mentoring and mentored by top tier coaches
• Success of teams against top tier coaches
• Wins
• NCAA wins
• Developing players for the next level
• Playing or assisting at a D1 or P5 program
• Wins against ranked teams
• Winning with a new roster/roster turnover
• Modern offense

So I'm naming 15 categories. I'll readily concede that McCollum is better in one: D2 success. Devries is better in the other 14.

Hard to compare but I tend to agree.  However, isnt Devries almost in the same boat as May?

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m hard to please, but Devries isn’t the worst name I’ve heard thrown out there. Brownell and McCollum being two I’d put below Devries.

Hopefully we get Scott Drew and don’t have to call down to the Devries tier, but I’d be leaps and bounds over our last hire. 

An added bonus is Tucker comes with the head coach.  A fully healthy Tucker on your team is a really good thing.  DeVries would do well at IU in my opinion 

[WRSMick55]

3 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Before you crown dolson the next coming maybe wait and see how this fall goes in football. The schedule is tougher and your basing if all on one season.

Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk
 

And likewise, before anyone crowns May the next coming maybe see how his future falls in the next couple years. 

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Can you expand on things that happened last off-season?

Dusty came to town last offseason to see family and he came to campus for a visit. I’ll leave it at that. It doesn’t really matter since he signed the extension.

[RoadRage]

14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I tried this the other day with comparing McCollum to some other candidate:

Other than "being really good in D2" name one category that McCollum is better than Devries from the following:

• P5 experience and wins
• D1 high school recruiting success
• D1 portal recruiting success
• Agent interaction
• Big alumni base, and big organization success
• Mentoring and mentored by top tier coaches
• Success of teams against top tier coaches
• Wins
• NCAA wins
• Developing players for the next level
• Playing or assisting at a D1 or P5 program
• Wins against ranked teams
• Winning with a new roster/roster turnover
• Modern offense

So I'm naming 15 categories. I'll readily concede that McCollum is better in one: D2 success. Devries is better in the other 14.

I do like DeVries better than Cronin, which is the guy you were using a few days ago to put down McCollum…..:-)

[Home Jersey]

9 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

Sam loves to listen to himself talk. That’s all I have for now. 

Pretty sure he has an account here and drops in periodically when his name is mentioned lol. I smell another boxing match Netflix special brewing… IUBB “insiders” edition…

[iu eyedoc]

29 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

One observation I’ve made and it’s probably because of 4 years ago but when someone makes a Stevens is out post like Sam made earlier it believed a lot more than when RTZ makes a Stevens to IU post. RTZ has been right many more times than Sam in recent years. Sam had most of his info during the Crean years. 
 

Also on a side note my DM’s pick way up with the Stevens not coming than the Stevens is coming. 
 

Just some quick thoughts.

My BMs do the same thing.

[Ctf9]

39 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I do like DeVries... but hope Dolson doesn't fall that far... I did find his contract details online... buyout is just under $1.1M.

source: https://voiceofmotown.com/darian-devries-wvu-contract-details-released/

Nice find! But I think the 37.5 percent is of the total remaining contract—so $4.5 million for the four years, which is doable, but I’d rather put that money toward Otz. 

Edited February 25, 2025 by Ctf9

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Pretty sure he has an account here and drops in periodically when his name is mentioned lol. I smell another boxing match Netflix special brewing… IUBB “insiders” edition…

Well you better pick your team and I’m watching.

[AZ Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, Ctf9 said:

Nice find! But I think the 37.5 percent is of the total remaining contract—so $4.5 million for the four years, which is doable, but I’d rather put that money toward Otz. 

My bad... I calculated it for one year... good catch.

[HoosierInParadise]

I do have a sincere question for discussion. We’ve been so engrossed with “IF” Stevens will be the coach, not much thought seems to have gone into “should” he be the coach. It’s just been axiomatic that ‘of course Brad is the best coach alive!’, but…. Is he?
He hasn’t coached in the NCAA in over 10yrs. Pre conference merger mania, pre NIL, pre transfer portal. It’s a whole new world from his quaint Horizon league days at Butler community college.  He hasn’t even coached at all in the last four years. He won in the NBA, but never made the finals, let alone won them.  Clearly, he’s a sharp guy that knows a ton about basketball, does that translate to the best possible option for IUBB?    
 

You're right...perfection doesn't exist. There are pros and cons to everyone. I personally feel that the issues you bring up are cert minimal when compared to everything else he brings.