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29 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Could be mistaken but think it’ll still be dirt cheap to fire him next year. Giving their alum a 4th year too with more resources. They’ll probably end up looking smarter than us lol 

Largely because even a mediocre Hubert Davis is a better coach than the King of Mediocrity

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7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

One observation I’ve made and it’s probably because of 4 years ago but when someone makes a Stevens is out post like Sam made earlier it believed a lot more than when RTZ makes a Stevens to IU post. RTZ has been right many more times than Sam in recent years. Sam had most of his info during the Crean years. 
 

Also on a side note my DM’s pick way up with the Stevens not coming than the Stevens is coming. 
 

Just some quick thoughts.

Yeah - nothing against Story personally, and not saying that Stevens will end up at IU, but ... it's been a while since Story seemed particularly in the loop. 

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2 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

OK - how didn't this get leaked? Maybe I should revisit my stance on conspiracy theories (no more then 2 people can keep a secret and then only if they aren't married):
Davis extension:
The agreement was reached in July, but the deal was signed in December, according to a copy of the contract obtained by WRAL on Tuesday.

Are any of these 'site owners' doing at all? The insiders on UNC 247 have said nothing about this on their sites and have been speculating on his firing since the second week of the season. Crazy.

You make a good point. And it was also being hid while people are calling for his job. 

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4 minutes ago, iu-dl said:

Sam shut down his blog at one point after "missing" on so many stories and people throttling him for it.

He would constantly delete his tweets too after everything he’d tweet about inevitably wouldn’t happen. Where did his alleged “insider” designation even come from? 

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12 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Over McCollum?????? No way

I tried this the other day with comparing McCollum to some other candidate:

Other than "being really good in D2" name one category that McCollum is better than Devries from the following:

  • P5 experience and wins
  • D1 high school recruiting success
  • D1 portal recruiting success
  • Agent interaction
  • Big alumni base, and big organization success
  • Mentoring and mentored by top tier coaches
  • Success of teams against top tier coaches
  • Wins
  • NCAA wins
  • Developing players for the next level
  • Playing or assisting at a D1 or P5 program
  • Wins against ranked teams
  • Winning with a new roster/roster turnover
  • Modern offense

So I'm naming 15 categories. I'll readily concede that McCollum is better in one: D2 success. Devries is better in the other 14.

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6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Let’s just hope at the end of March we are all happy as clams with the new hire and can look back at February laughing about all the debates around Cronin/Beard, McCollum vs DeVries (lol) resting with ease knowing IU basketball is about to win big again. 

I want to be happy at the end of next March, whoever the hire may be will get my belief and support. Indiana is like 10 time defending off-season champs, I can live with average highlights in the off-season if we can take care of winning basketball games.

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8 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Pat Kelsey was a homerun. Sign me up

We need to remember he was maybe the 5th preferred candidate after Louisville struck out and had to scramble a little. The same thing happened at Kentucky and they are having success so far as well. Resume, preparedness, and fit can all line up in strange ways. Like maybe if Tom Crean was at UCLA and Steve Alford were at Indiana, the fit works out for both of them when maybe they aren't great coaches at other places (complete made up hypothetical don't kill me for Tom Crean and Steve Alford references.) Maybe Cronin can kill it here but someone like Scott Drew can't. It doesn't always work out like on paper or internet message boards.

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I’m hard to please, but Devries isn’t the worst name I’ve heard thrown out there. Brownell and McCollum being two I’d put below Devries.

Hopefully we get Scott Drew and don’t have to call down to the Devries tier, but I’d be leaps and bounds over our last hire. 

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1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

It's almost a joke of an "extension" for a guy that may win the conference in year 1.    

Yeah, when it was announced I figured the number would be something like 8yr/48M total with a $12M buyout.  A  5 year 25M contract seems rather noncommittal by UM.

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12 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I tried this the other day with comparing McCollum to some other candidate:

Other than "being really good in D2" name one category that McCollum is better than Devries from the following:

  • P5 experience and wins
  • D1 high school recruiting success
  • D1 portal recruiting success
  • Agent interaction
  • Big alumni base, and big organization success
  • Mentoring and mentored by top tier coaches
  • Success of teams against top tier coaches
  • Wins
  • NCAA wins
  • Developing players for the next level
  • Playing or assisting at a D1 or P5 program
  • Wins against ranked teams
  • Winning with a new roster/roster turnover
  • Modern offense

So I'm naming 15 categories. I'll readily concede that McCollum is better in one: D2 success. Devries is better in the other 14.

Hard to compare but I tend to agree.  However, isnt Devries almost in the same boat as May?

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6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m hard to please, but Devries isn’t the worst name I’ve heard thrown out there. Brownell and McCollum being two I’d put below Devries.

Hopefully we get Scott Drew and don’t have to call down to the Devries tier, but I’d be leaps and bounds over our last hire. 

An added bonus is Tucker comes with the head coach.  A fully healthy Tucker on your team is a really good thing.  DeVries would do well at IU in my opinion 

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