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[8bucks]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Isn’t it probably more feasible that IU waits until April 2022 before firing Miller to pay the 50% buyout? 

That being said, why would a coach like Stevens ever leave the NBA for a program that hasn’t won a championship in almost 35 years? Hell, they’ve only won 3 conference Championships in the last 20. A coach in a reasonably comfortable situation at a power 5 school would have to be crazy to come to IU. There is NO patience amongst the fan base or local media, despite being mediocre for most of the last few decades, and there is unbelievable pressure to win immediately. Pretty tough gig.. A guy like Dennis Gates or Dane Fife might be the best we can hope for.

Don’t fall for the “need to win immediately” story. It is the furthest thing from truth otherwise we would have had this discussion in year 1.   

[DChoosier]

25 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

There is NO patience amongst the fan base or local media, despite being mediocre for most of the last few decades, and there is unbelievable pressure to win immediately. Pretty tough gig.. A guy like Dennis Gates or Dane Fife might be the best we can hope for.

What’s your definition of “win immediately”. It’s year 4 and we are in 10th place, have not had better than a .500 conference record and this, the 4th year, is his worst conference record yet (albeit.....the BT is brutal this year). We have the same, same, same issues we had 4 years ago and rather than the fan base having “NO patience”, as you wrote, I think there has been a fair amount of patience considering the lack of progress,

[LamarCheeks]

Andy Enfield has one major positive (other than the wife) -- I would absolutely hate the hire. And given my track record, that might not be a bad thing. 

At the time ... 

I liked the Crean hire. 

I liked the Archie hire. 

I hated the Moren hire. 

I hated the Allen hire. 

So -- what the hell, bring on Andy Enfield. 

[JaybobHoosier]

Only two years as a head coach at a place that's confused whether Cleveland is a city or a state...defend your pick sir.

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[DChoosier]

49 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

My guess from what I heard was that his agent has made it known to IU he would listen to what we have to say.

Does the Ville still have possible NCAA sanctions hanging over their head (as if that means much these days :( ). If so, maybe that is why he would be open to taking off. OtherwiseI agree with other posters that it might be his agents way of getting more money from the Ville.

[ViaSwiss]

Enfield!? Really!?? He is just Tom Crean but with even less results. 

 

Scott Drew is the guy and he has legit interest in IU. 

[rcbowla]

Enfield!? Really!?? He is just Tom Crean but with even less results. 

 

Scott Drew is the guy and he has legit interest in IU. 

Do you know this for certain? The Drew part.

 

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[ViaSwiss]

1 minute ago, rcs29 said:

Do you know this for certain? The Drew part.

 

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Yes, he knows what basketball means in Indiana. 

[CrossboneIU22]

Just now, ViaSwiss said:

Yes, he knows what basketball means in Indiana. 

I believe he means the legit interest part, is that fact or opinion. 

[DLG3]

I gotta say, this thread is a little slower than I anticipated it would be tonight. Like others have said, I’m excited for a coaching search, anxious and don’t honestly have much faith that they’ll get the new hire right, and just ready for a new era. That being said, still pretty depressed we even got to this point. I think I really like Archie the person and his background. Wish it had worked out, for so many reasons.

 

 

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I gotta say, this thread is a little slower than I anticipated it would be tonight. Like others have said, I’m excited for a coaching search, anxious and don’t honestly have much faith that they’ll get the new hire right, and just ready for a new era. That being said, still pretty depressed we even got to this point. I think I really like Archie the person and his background. Wish it had worked out, for so many reasons.
 
 
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Apathy, plus lack of faith in the administration in next hiring doesn’t even make a potential coaching search as fun as it should be.

Enfield? Lol. Fife? Lol. No one is going to waste their time daydreaming of these scenarios.

Only a few hires out there that peak my enthusiasm.

Keeping Archie as some have suggested is a death nail, it can’t happen either.

At one point we thought Indiana would ‘open the checkbook’ and hire a winner. I think that thought is less likely this time around.


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[coonhounds]

Apathy, plus lack of faith in the administration in next hiring doesn’t even make a potential coaching search as fun as it should be.

Enfield? Lol. Fife? Lol. No one is going to waste their time daydreaming of these scenarios.

Only a few hires out there that peak my enthusiasm.

Keeping Archie as some have suggested is a death nail, it can’t happen either.

At one point we thought Indiana would ‘open the checkbook’ and hire a winner. I think that thought is less likely this time around.


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I bet you with how bad this hire has turned out and with the pandemic and the buyout their wishing they had opened their checkbook up last time

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I bet you with how bad this hire has turned out and with the pandemic and the buyout their wishing they had opened their checkbook up last time

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Maybe we would have had Billy Donovan? Lol. Semi-serious.

Hard for me to get ‘pumped up’ for any “realistic option”.

But a move to almost anyone gives me more hope than I have in Archie. So there’s that.





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[DLG3]

Apathy, plus lack of faith in the administration in next hiring doesn’t even make a potential coaching search as fun as it should be.

Enfield? Lol. Fife? Lol. No one is going to waste their time daydreaming of these scenarios.

Only a few hires out there that peak my enthusiasm.

Keeping Archie as some have suggested is a death nail, it can’t happen either.

At one point we thought Indiana would ‘open the checkbook’ and hire a winner. I think that thought is less likely this time around.


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Agreed. And I don’t know as much about this as some who can comment, but if Mcrobbie really is part of the problem, isn’t it a little obnoxious that we have to go through this again, at the very end of his presidency?


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[Hoosierfan2017]

If I’m being honest, I didn’t even know who Enfield was before his name was mentioned in here earlier. Maybe there’s something I’m missing with him, but I looked up his resume and was thoroughly unimpressed. I know the job isn’t the most attractive thing in college basketball right now, but surely we can do better ...

[CrossboneIU22]

Here is the problem with the next coaching hire. There are only 2 candidates that fit what everyone wants in the next coach but the likelihood of either one coming is extremely slim (Donavan and Stevens). Beyond those two, anyone else who fits what most want in the next coach are older and near then end of their careers than we like or have health concerns (Belien, Matta, etc.). So the next category of coaches are younger coaches with a lot more time remaining in their coaching careers. But very few if any of them have proven themselves in a way IU fans expect so it’s viewed as an un-enthused hire (Fife along with many others mentioned in this thread) . And if they have proven themselves, they most likely are not leaving there current job for IU (Beard, Drew, Few, Mack, etc). Then the last category are assistant coaches who have little to no head coaching experience to speak off but are highly thought of, who would most certainly be viewed as a terrible hire by most IU fans (Like a Tom Allen or Painters Assistant). So that pretty much puts this hire in a lose lose situation no matter what unless it’s Donavan or Stevens.  Or the new hire pulls a Tom Allen or a Bob Knight and builds this thing up to be a successful even though the initial reaction is terrible. It just seems like we are chasing a unicorn for a head coach and that is about as low as a program can get in my opinion. 
 

My point in saying this though is that we need to be far less concerned about what someone has accomplished in the NCAA tourney and more focused on their ability to develop players, run offense and defense that maximize the talents of their players, and can do more with less against equivalent or greater competition. If they can do that, they should deserve a chance to prove themselves here at IU without the fans being negative from the start. 

[JSHoosier]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Isn’t it probably more feasible that IU waits until April 2022 before firing Miller to pay the 50% buyout? 

That being said, why would a coach like Stevens ever leave the NBA for a program that hasn’t won a championship in almost 35 years? Hell, they’ve only won 3 conference Championships in the last 20. A coach in a reasonably comfortable situation at a power 5 school would have to be crazy to come to IU. There is NO patience amongst the fan base or local media, despite being mediocre for most of the last few decades, and there is unbelievable pressure to win immediately. Pretty tough gig.. A guy like Dennis Gates or Dane Fife might be the best we can hope for.

In his 4th year without a tourney appearance or even a winning conference record.  Some "lack of patience" or whatever other nonsense isn't the problem; do that at puke and you wouldn't get to 4 years.

If we want to get back we have to start having and holding expectations, we have to expect to win and not consider making a 68 team field some sort of accomplishment.

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

If I’m being honest, I didn’t even know who Enfield was before his name was mentioned in here earlier. Maybe there’s something I’m missing with him, but I looked up his resume and was thoroughly unimpressed. I know the job isn’t the most attractive thing in college basketball right now, but surely we can do better ...

He’s a shooting specialist. Haven’t you been asking for him for years?

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He’s a shooting specialist. Haven’t you been asking for him for years?

Not as the head coach. Sounds exactly like what Archie needs to help our offense, though. 

[theriverpilot]

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#HireChrisMack

What a passive-aggressive, snarky mother f’er. I want him as my coach!! Hire this man!


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