General Coach Candidate News

[lillurk]

5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I think kids in this state would gobble up the opportunity to play in his offenses. 

I think HS coaches would like that. Not sure either way about teenagers

[theriverpilot]

39 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

We had two good rounds of religion and John Calapari yesterday. We might need to change the name of this thread to off-topic. Hopefully, those leaks keep rolling out today. I'm sure everyone is starting to hear them. :-)

I'm changing my name to Mr. Charlie and will base my entire persona on bashing Lindsey Buckingham if this thread name is changed to Off-Topic!  

[str8baller]

23 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

Serious question regarding McDermott: How would you rate him compared to Matt Painter?  On the surface they appear to be similar in accomplishments.  I ask not advocating for or against, just as a guage.  My pedestrian view is that GM wouldn't be in the top tier of names we've tossed around, but also not in the bottom tiers either.

I was actually just thinking about this yesterday in relation to Otz but it works for McD too. I’d put them in the same category of pretty dang good coaches but probably not elite. 
 

The difference is Painter played at PU. Was coach in waiting. Is intimately familiar with Midwest and Indiana recruiting. Has a system and recruits to it very well. Take any of those advantages away and he quickly turns out pretty mediocre results like he did in the post Hummel years. It wasn’t until he hit his Swanigan/Haas/Edey recruiting stretch that he started looking near elite again.  
 

So that’s just one of the many ways a good coach on that level could come into IU and stumble. 

[tyappleg]

30 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

A big one.  He’s old and may not be around much longer.  Had one shot at a P5 job and he flopped miserably.  His personality is a bad fit too.

Creighton has been a P5 job for 10 years now. 

[CSP]

Just now, IUHoosierJoe said:

Could be.  I watched their game last night.  Lots of turnovers against a very poor team.  They showed a stat that Creighton’s turnover margin is minus 4.4 per game, which is one of the worst in the country.

They had 12 TOs lol 

Must suck to play poorly and win by 18, and be 21-9. It'd really suck to be able to shoot like this.... 

 

 

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, theriverpilot said:

I'm changing my name to Mr. Charlie and will base my entire persona on bashing Lindsey Buckingham if this thread name is changed to Off-Topic!  

I'm sure he's sitting somewhere with a cup of coffee, rolling a fat one and listening to Rumors. HAHA

[mamasa]

19 hours ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

What exactly is the definition of a religious "nut job"

Mad Max and Brother Dan who used to spew vile quasi-biblical nonsense by Ballentine here in Bloomington lol. I saw Brother Dan get knocked TFO by my friend on the football team, Dan made a really racist comment, my friend just dropped him on the spot lol!

[CSP]

Creighton just doesn't force TOs... they don't avg some astronomical amount of TOs a little over 12 per game.  

[cbp4iu]

So our new coach probably doesn’t want anyone back on our current team correct? Then again Mgbako’s Reneau and Rice’s portal reel from last night probably lost them each 50k-100k

[BGleas]

5 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Creighton has been a P5 job for 10 years now. 

Yeah, have seen a few posts over the last couple of days saying McDermott "flopped in his only Power 5 job". 

He's literally in a Power 5 job right now and as yoy said, has been for the last 10 years. 

[Papacap]

3 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Creighton just doesn't force TOs... they don't avg some astronomical amount of TOs a little over 12 per game.  

I don’t want a coach who can’t get his team to lead the country in deflections.

[str8baller]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

They had 12 TOs lol 

Must suck to play poorly and win by 18, and be 21-9. It'd really suck to be able to shoot like this.... 

 

 

Tbf, we just beat Washington who is basically Seton Hall and they just lost at Xavier by 20.  
 

Creighton is 39 in NET and 5-6 in Q1 wins. 
 

He’s a better coach than Woodson but the seasons this year aren’t as far apart as we’d want to really get the fanbase behind a hire like that. 

[theriverpilot]

9 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Mad Max and Brother Dan who used to spew vile quasi-biblical nonsense by Ballentine here in Bloomington lol. I saw Brother Dan get knocked TFO by my friend on the football team, Dan made a really racist comment, my friend just dropped him on the spot lol!

WORLDSTAR!!!!  Sorry......I don't even like hiphop.  

[CSP]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

Tbf, we just beat Washington who is basically Seton Hall and they just lost at Xavier by 20.  
 

Creighton is 39 in NET and 5-6 in Q1 wins. 
 

He’s a better coach than Woodson but the seasons this year aren’t as far apart as we’d want to really get the fanbase behind a hire like that. 

hmmmm. Yeah, I don't see it that way. 

So they're 5-6 in Q1 and we're 4-12 but our seasons aren't that far apart? 

 

[Ryno6284]

48 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I’ll just say this, and people can think what they want regarding the quality of my fandom, but I think IU is taking a major risk if this is the route they choose.  I am a late 80s IU grad and I have been a huge fan since the mid 70s.  In other words, I am in the age group that grew up witnessing the potential of this program, and firmly believe everything is still in place to still be achieving at least close to that level (with the right coach, of course).  I have a funny feeling that many my age, and especially those of us in northern Indiana, have little interest in 6-8 years of somewhat improved but still underachieving mediocrity, with a promise of better days ahead if we just hang in there 6-8 more years, especially given that there is an IU grad killing it in his first year just to the north of us.  I am about at the end of my rope after 30 years of donating to and supporting a program that has consistently made decisions that led to underachievement.  So I really hope the administration is taking into consideration the chance they may lose a chunk of the fan base if something like this is in their plans.

I appreciate your point of view on this and response. Do you think McDermott would be like late 90’s IU teams as a ceiling? I see him as early 90’s IU teams who competed for big ten titles and were threats in the dance. That is what I think he would do here. Not just make the tournament.

[CSP]

I see McDermott as one of the "lower risks" hires we could make, his ceiling just might not be as high as we want. 

[theriverpilot]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I see McDermott as one of the "lower risks" hires we could make, his ceiling just might not be as high as we want. 

You certainly wouldn't see any of the head-scratching coaching moves from McDermott as seen under Woodson, but then again, that could be said about any coach on the search list.

[8bucks]

11 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Yeah, have seen a few posts over the last couple of days saying McDermott "flopped in his only Power 5 job". 

He's literally in a Power 5 job right now and as yoy said, has been for the last 10 years. 

I think his coaching acumen is strong enough but does anyone know how he has done upgrading talent in the portal and developing talent via HS kids?  Here, I presume, he will have access to a lot of $ to recruit but the portal recruiting seems to be a different strategy and I wonder how he has done evaluating and then getting results that route.  I liked Cigs approach to recruit production over potential and wonder how a guy at a "smaller" school will do with those resources here

[mamasa]

16 hours ago, Scotty R said:

I guess it is that time of day for a new troll to stop by to dampen the fans spirit

Nah, we don't need new trolls, we have plenty of trolls that already post here.......

[Silat Player]

15 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Mad Max and Brother Dan who used to spew vile quasi-biblical nonsense by Ballentine here in Bloomington lol. I saw Brother Dan get knocked TFO by my friend on the football team, Dan made a really racist comment, my friend just dropped him on the spot lol!

I realized just how different Purdue and IU were by how they treated their religious zealots. I started my post-secondary career at Purdue. The fire and brimstone preacher was most often called "Brother Max" by the students there. 

When I got to IU for grad school, I remember one of my classmates telling me about some guy screaming at students who was called "Mad Max." I thought, "That's a weird coincidence." Sure enough, same guy, of course. I wonder what his schedule was at the different campuses around the state. He seemed like he was at Purdue A LOT during my 4 years there. I didn't see him all that often at IU...