They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hoosier987]

35 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Things like this make me sad! Iu basketball should be enjoyable to watch. You can't win all the games but to come out and play like last night should be a very rare occasion!

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Yup. It’s not just that we lose, it’s the way we lose. Woodson’s losses are bad. They’re embarrassing blowouts 

[IUHoosierJoe]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

For people in this thread might be too hard to watch them.   I agree they are fun to watch however they have flaws that will prevent them from making a run in March.   They got to clean up the TO situation and stop letting teams come back on them.  Wolf is a beast 

Maybe.  They can also improve, because they are well-coached.  I won't be too surprised to see them in the Elite 8.  And they were 3-17 in the B1G last year.  Amazing job by Dusty.  ANOTHER amazing job, I should say.

[Hoosier987]

8 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Maybe.  They can also improve, because they are well-coached.  I won't be too surprised to see them in the Elite 8.  And they were 3-17 in the B1G last year.  Amazing job by Dusty.  ANOTHER amazing job, I should say.

Dusty’s team is fun to watch.  All new players, and you don’t hear the excuse like Woodson makes of “ we have 7 new players that are trying to learn each other.” lol, as if every other team isn’t dealing with the same issue. It’s the NIL era, Mike….

[ap2345]

https://x.com/zachosterman/status/1878308610167472590?s=46&t=F2LZ_vz_D7j6OwqKeWC6FQ

Osterman is Dolson’s mouthpiece

[Uspshoosier]

Woody wanted IU to have  a seat at the table with the big boys in college basketball.   Big boys separate themselves from others by winning high level games.  Those games are Q1a games 

Home- 1-15

Neutral- 1-25

Road- 1-40

when separating teams pushing for 1 seeds in the tourney it can come down to how a team performs in the Q1a area 

in 3.5 years Woodys record against these teams is 6-23.  
 

Year 1-(2-8)

Year 2- (4-6)

Year 3- (0-7)

Year 4- (0-2) so far 

3 of Woodys 6 Q1a wins are against Purdue.  

[Pagoda]

51 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Which is worse:

The NBA has a tendency to recycle coaches and Woodson still couldn't get another shot after 2014.

IU is so incompetently run they saw the fact no one wanted him as a green light.

I think Quinn wanted to help his friend whose NBA career had hit a wall.  His IU contract was 4x what he was making as an NBA assistant.  Rich people love helping out their friends.  They made up other nonsense to justify it -- he's an IU guy, he's a bridge, and he will be a stabilizer.  The idea of hiring a coach on a shorter term basis to stabilize the program was total nonsense, nothing is more destabilizing than coaching changes.

Anyways here we are.  What a 3.5 years it's been.

[ap2345]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

Which is worse:

The NBA has a tendency to recycle coaches and Woodson still couldn't get another shot after 2014.

IU is so incompetently run they saw the fact no one wanted him as a green light.

It wasn’t IU. It was Buckner who had the IU athletic department backed into a corner because of a promise Glass had made and then broke. 

[str8baller]

7 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

 

I think Quinn wanted to help his friend whose NBA career had hit a wall. 

Amazing someone like that is a trustee. 

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said:

It will be awhile before he is back.  The schedule just gets harder.

Bummer 

[Golfman25]

55 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

While everyone in here is just waiting on the inevitable which will be Woody gone after this year you guys might as well watch some actual teams that are coached by good college basketball coaches and watch some mid major teams.  I know most don’t want to watch if IU is bad but don’t miss out on good basketball because IUs coach stinks.  MWC, SoCon and MVC are must watch.   I would adid every game in the SEC is must watch.   Again this is just to pass the time before Woody is gone next year because he is cooked, done and finished.   It’s already over 

It’s completely depressing watching how it should be done.  

[str8baller]

2 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

It was Buckner who had the IU athletic department backed into a corner because of a promise Glass had made and then broke. 

After Dolson whiffed on Steven’s I can see how he wouldn’t have the political capital to fend off QB, but the whole affair—as told on here—is hilariously incompetent.  
 

Arguably, the only competent action was Glass breaking his initial promise (which was dumb) and hiring Archie when he came available, but in classic IU fashion that failed miserably too. 
 

It’s possible we’re cursed at this point. May need to call in a New Orleans voodoo doctor to get this sorted out.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Honest question: do you think Woodson knows what the NET is? Lol

 

(Did see we only dropped 4(back to 60), we could’ve literally gone up if we lost by only a few, this is because usc, South Carolina, and UoL all had good days yesterday)

[Pagoda]

6 minutes ago, str8baller said:

After Dolson whiffed on Steven’s I can see how he wouldn’t have the political capital to fend off QB, but the whole affair—as told on here—is hilariously incompetent.  
 

Arguably, the only competent action was Glass breaking his initial promise (which was dumb) and hiring Archie when he came available, but in classic IU fashion that failed miserably too. 
 

It’s possible we’re cursed at this point. May need to call in a New Orleans voodoo doctor to get this sorted out.

Yea, Glass was right to ignore Woody as an option, but he just got it wrong with Archie.  Part of the issue was he didn’t have experience as an AD.  I’m hopeful Scott has learned a lot of lessons from the failures he has observed over the years.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

7 minutes ago, str8baller said:

 

It’s possible we’re cursed at this point. May need to call in a New Orleans voodoo doctor to get this sorted out.

Coach Cig says curses can be broken and you don't need a voodoo doctor just an experienced and competent college coach.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Just now, Pagoda said:

Yea, Glass was right to ignore Woody as an option, but he just got it wrong with Archie.  Part of the issue was he didn’t have experience as an AD.  I’m hopeful Scott has learned a lot of lessons from the failures he has observed over the years.

And purely FWIW, at that time, Archie was considered an up and coming coach.  Unfortunately he turned out to be a down and outing coach.

[tyappleg]

26 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Woody wanted IU to have  a seat at the table with the big boys in college basketball.   Big boys separate themselves from others by winning high level games.  Those games are Q1a games 

Home- 1-15

Neutral- 1-25

Road- 1-40

when separating teams pushing for 1 seeds in the tourney it can come down to how a team performs in the Q1a area 

in 3.5 years Woodys record against these teams is 6-23.  
 

Year 1-(2-8)

Year 2- (4-6)

Year 3- (0-7)

Year 4- (0-2) so far 

3 of Woodys 6 Q1a wins are against Purdue.  

Woody should give all the money he has made at IU to Trayce Jackson Davis. 

[str8baller]

5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Coach Cig says curses can be broken and you don't need a voodoo doctor just an experienced and competent college coach.

Sounds simple. I wonder what IU’s problem is?

[TheWatShot]

7 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Sounds simple. I wonder what IU’s problem is?

Too many cooks in the kitchen. The Cig hire was mostly Dolson with input from Whitten, which is how it should be. We didn't have boosters/BOT members/donors trying to meddle with that hire because none of them cared about football. 

[iu eyedoc]

In case you were having too good of a Sunday morning. Here are the current B1G net rankings. Bolded are the could have been and is.

Big Ten

Rank	Prev	School	Record
9	11	Michigan	12-3 (4-0)
10	6	Illinois	12-4 (4-2)
15	16	Michigan St.	13-2 (4-0)
20	19	Maryland	12-4 (2-3)
21	20	Oregon	14-2 (3-2)
23	21	Purdue	12-4 (4-1)
24	25	Wisconsin	13-3 (3-2)
30	30	UCLA	11-5 (2-3)
31	29	Ohio St.	10-6 (2-3)
35	38	Nebraska	12-3 (2-2)
45	52	Iowa	12-4 (3-2)
51	51	Penn St.	12-4 (2-3)
55	53	Northwestern	10-5 (1-3)
60	56	Indiana	13-4 (4-2)
78	95	Southern California	10-6 (2-3)
95	91	Rutgers	8-8 (1-4)
99	98	Washington	10-6 (1-4)
148	149	Minnesota

 

[AZ Hoosier]

27 minutes ago, str8baller said:

After Dolson whiffed on Steven’s I can see how he wouldn’t have the political capital to fend off QB, but the whole affair—as told on here—is hilariously incompetent.  
 

Arguably, the only competent action was Glass breaking his initial promise (which was dumb) and hiring Archie when he came available, but in classic IU fashion that failed miserably too. 
 

It’s possible we’re cursed at this point. May need to call in a New Orleans voodoo doctor to get this sorted out.

I'd be very interested in hearing about this "initial promise". I've seen references to it, but have not seen/heard the story. Who in their right mind would have even considered such a promise to hire a hack of a never-was NBA coach to lead a college program (ANY college program, let alone a P4 program) with absolutely no college experience or knowledge of what would be required? Glass screwed the pooch a few times on his own, but at least he prevented (or forestalled) this train wreck on his watch.