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11 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

...these guys are considered good coaches with records to back them up, but they don't fit in the White Whale conversation, not even close. There are only just a few to take on that label.

What White Whale(s) are you talking about then?

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We're always a step slow with everything we do and we have to watch someone else do it first. Hopefully this gets something going here. 
FSU doesn't have a guy who graduated in 1976 and an 85 years old holding its program hostage

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4 hours ago, johnsoniu said:

In keeping with his strict criteria, Rico would like to enter Arkansas St HC Bryan Hodgson's name into the discussion....

 

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Uhhhhhh, is she his sobriety sponsor err what's going on here

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Just now, iu eyedoc said:

Pearl by all accounts was champing at the bit to get the job last offseason and a guy like Drew has  in state ties and knows the difference between becoming a coach locals like until they don't and becoming a legend. The state of Texas doesn't revere coaches of their third most popular sport as legend.

Oh did I say IU could just pick any coach in the country and automatically get them? Those three are just about as likely to turn down UNC should they come calling. Your argument is ludicrous. 

The only point I was making is that IU has almost everything to offer a prospective coach and that recent lack of success as a deterrent was a ridiculous point.

I guess you weren't able to follow that. I will try to consider your reading comprehension level next time

You used the term white whale, not me. Those three along with Self and Hurley are widely regarded as the best coaches in the game. Two of the ones I mentioned turned Kentucky last year as did Hurley. 

And I understood exactly what you meant, you're just wrong in your assessment. IU's lack of success isn't a deterrent. The EXPECTATIONS for a team with IU's lack of success is most definitely a deterrent, at least for these "white whale's" you speak of.  

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5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You used the term white whale, not me. Those three along with Self and Hurley are widely regarded as the best coaches in the game. Two of the ones I mentioned turned Kentucky last year as did Hurley. 

And I understood exactly what you meant, you're just wrong in your assessment. IU's lack of success isn't a deterrent. The EXPECTATIONS for a team with IU's lack of success is most definitely a deterrent, at least for these "white whale's" you speak of.  

Successful hypercompetitive coaches not considering IU because they are afraid of the "Expectations" is certainly a take. 

Your logic has gotten to the point of "IU fans should be happy anyone wants to coach this dumpster fire of a program/fanbase for any amount of money." 

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

That's what my son said to me the other day. He said can you imagine my freshman year at IU we get Cignetti and my sophomore year we get Stevens. I said that would be awesome but let's slow it down for now. 

My son goes to the University of Florida. Last Friday night he was glued to his laptop watching IU play hard but lose at Mackey. *Then he went out - he's not a total loser ya know*

If IU got Stevens,  got a different 'wow' coach, or for that matter got a great mid-major coach that turned the program around, he'd be jumping out of his skin with excitement.

 

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6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You used the term white whale, not me. Those three along with Self and Hurley are widely regarded as the best coaches in the game. Two of the ones I mentioned turned Kentucky last year as did Hurley. 

And I understood exactly what you meant, you're just wrong in your assessment. IU's lack of success isn't a deterrent. The EXPECTATIONS for a team with IU's lack of success is most definitely a deterrent, at least for these "white whale's" you speak of.  

I speak of? You mean every name that YOU mention?

 

And two  things

1) I didn't use the term White Whale first just in response.

2)If you don't understand, IU's only White Whale is Brad Stevens. The term refers to an objective/person that is obsessively pursued but unlikely to catch.

 

Hope this helps.

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IU in my opinion is still a top 10 job in the business despite the struggles for however long they have had them.   Doesn’t matter who they hire this cycle.  White Whale, Mid major coach, high level coach doesn’t matter IU will still be considered a top 10 job. 

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14 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You used the term white whale, not me. Those three along with Self and Hurley are widely regarded as the best coaches in the game. Two of the ones I mentioned turned Kentucky last year as did Hurley. 

And I understood exactly what you meant, you're just wrong in your assessment. IU's lack of success isn't a deterrent. The EXPECTATIONS for a team with IU's lack of success is most definitely a deterrent, at least for these "white whale's" you speak of.  

Maybe define what you believe the expectations to be at IU at this time. 

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27 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

FSU doesn't have a guy who graduated in 1976 and an 85 years old holding its program hostage

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Ummmm... I realize you were referring to Ferguson, but

FSU's current head coach graduated college in 1971 and may actually be 85 years old.

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