They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[hper50]

14 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're not shy about using the private message feature. Sorry for ghosting many of you but easier to just post publicly.

And, now that I've effectively buried the lead, Woodson is back next year with a couple caveats and interesting details:

- Meeting Tuesday happened as scheduled and talk was future of the basketball program and specifically how Woody fits in that plan

- Though Dolson and BoT disagree about it happening now, consensus was that this isn't the bridge hire they'd hoped for and this is his last year barring some miracle B1G championship or FF run next year that would make for bad optics.

- Woodson was given the opportunity to retire and go out amicably but said no and that he thinks he can use the portal to put us in a better position to transition to another coach after next year.

- Dolson laid out expectations for portal results and win/loss results next season that would result in letting Woody go; just my opinion but it sounds like Buckner, boosters, etc. got him the 4th year but Scotty Dolson has his finger on the eject button and Woodson knows it. Fully expect him to announce a "planned retirement" next year so he can go out on his "own terms"

- For what it's worth, Dolson did put out feelers and got positive feedback on interest from 2 of his top 3 potential replacement candidates; think we can get May with a text message, Pearl has serious interest but wouldn't make a move if his team makes a FF run or wins a natty. 

- I think we as a fanbase/board are higher on Dusty than the administration/BoT; sounds like they're only interested in a homerun hire, win now guy if they do move and risking a third straight miss isn't something they're willing to do and just because he has IU ties and made a good tourney run, feeling is May isn't a guarantee at this level.

That's what I've got that I'm able to share comfortably right now. Not what myself or anybody on this board probably wants to hear. Moral is one more year is 95% likely (everyone root for UCONN in the S16, and a miracle!) It's kind of messy internally and they're trying to move on to get IU back to a top tier program while letting Woodson ride into the sunset having left the program in a good place and "stepping aside" for the good of the program. ??

 

The Godfather has arrived! Thanks for the update Jerry.

Man, if Pearl really wanted to come here after a, say, S16 loss, it’d be nice if we could sit Woody down and say look, I know you want to leave the program in the best spot possible, and the best way to do that is retire and let this guy take over. Because he’s the best option we’re gonna have this year or next. 

 

[Herotime]

Just now, hper50 said:

The Godfather has arrived! Thanks for the update Jerry.

Man, if Pearl really wanted to come here after a, say, S16 loss, it’d be nice if we could sit Woody down and say look, I know you want to leave the program in the best spot possible, and the best way to do that is retire and let this guy take over. Because he’s the best option we’re gonna have this year or next. 

 

This times 1,000000000

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said:

Blow the whole thing up.  Shut the program down for next year because that’s exactly what they are telling us they intend to do if they can’t do the right thing

100%. They care more about massaging Mike Woodson’s enormous ego than they do winning basketball games. 

[MrBBall]

18 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're not shy about using the private message feature. Sorry for ghosting many of you but easier to just post publicly.

And, now that I've effectively buried the lead, Woodson is back next year with a couple caveats and interesting details:

- Meeting Tuesday happened as scheduled and talk was future of the basketball program and specifically how Woody fits in that plan

- Though Dolson and BoT disagree about it happening now, consensus was that this isn't the bridge hire they'd hoped for and this is his last year barring some miracle B1G championship or FF run next year that would make for bad optics.

- Woodson was given the opportunity to retire and go out amicably but said no and that he thinks he can use the portal to put us in a better position to transition to another coach after next year.

- Dolson laid out expectations for portal results and win/loss results next season that would result in letting Woody go; just my opinion but it sounds like Buckner, boosters, etc. got him the 4th year but Scotty Dolson has his finger on the eject button and Woodson knows it. Fully expect him to announce a "planned retirement" next year so he can go out on his "own terms"

- For what it's worth, Dolson did put out feelers and got positive feedback on interest from 2 of his top 3 potential replacement candidates; think we can get May with a text message, Pearl has serious interest but wouldn't make a move if his team makes a FF run or wins a natty. 

- I think we as a fanbase/board are higher on Dusty than the administration/BoT; sounds like they're only interested in a homerun hire, win now guy if they do move and risking a third straight miss isn't something they're willing to do and just because he has IU ties and made a good tourney run, feeling is May isn't a guarantee at this level.

That's what I've got that I'm able to share comfortably right now. Not what myself or anybody on this board probably wants to hear. Moral is one more year is 95% likely (everyone root for UCONN in the S16, and a miracle!) It's kind of messy internally and they're trying to move on to get IU back to a top tier program while letting Woodson ride into the sunset having left the program in a good place and "stepping aside" for the good of the program. ??

 

Thanks Jerry. You mentioned 95% likely. What is the 5%? Portal issues this spring? Also, do you know the other candidates besides Pearl? You can dm if needed. Thank you. 

[Stuhoo]

One more year if waiting got us Otzelberger or Shrewsbury?

I’d sign for that right here right now.

[Mopladysman]

Doesn’t quite make sense.  He was told next  year would be his last unless it’s ff or big ten championship.  But then there is a standard for portal and win/losses?  Wouldn’t the standard be big ten champ or ff?

[Parakeet Jones]

So let’s hope we do enough in the portal so that A) the next guy isn’t coming into a complete dumpster fire  and B) we might be able to have a somewhat enjoyable season next year. I mean I could live with making the tournament even as a low seed with an announced planned retirement. 

[Magisterium]

1 hour ago, OGIUAndy said:

He turned a 2-22 Iowa State program into a team that just steamrolled the number two team in the country. 

and  currently has about an $18 million buyout ($15 million a year from now)

[Parakeet Jones]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

One more year if it got us Otzelberger or Shrewsbury?

I’d sign for that right here right now.

Otz for sure for me. The more I think about this, he is probably my #1. 

[TTT]

On a positive note for IU men’s basketball (I know there is a positive thread) though there were so many blow out losses; 1. If IU could have won 6  more conference games = 25 game win season including 16 conference wins and 2.  IU could beat some of the teams in the March Madness tournament….it makes more sense now.

[TadQueasy]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

One more year if it got us Otzelberger or Shrewsbury?

I’d sign for that right here right now.

What is it about Otzelberger that gets him in this discussion?  I know he has Iowa State at a good spot this year, but wasn't he pretty mediocre at UNLV.  What am I missing?

[Feathery]

21 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're not shy about using the private message feature. Sorry for ghosting many of you but easier to just post publicly.

And, now that I've effectively buried the lead, Woodson is back next year with a couple caveats and interesting details:

- Meeting Tuesday happened as scheduled and talk was future of the basketball program and specifically how Woody fits in that plan

- Though Dolson and BoT disagree about it happening now, consensus was that this isn't the bridge hire they'd hoped for and this is his last year barring some miracle B1G championship or FF run next year that would make for bad optics.

- Woodson was given the opportunity to retire and go out amicably but said no and that he thinks he can use the portal to put us in a better position to transition to another coach after next year.

- Dolson laid out expectations for portal results and win/loss results next season that would result in letting Woody go; just my opinion but it sounds like Buckner, boosters, etc. got him the 4th year but Scotty Dolson has his finger on the eject button and Woodson knows it. Fully expect him to announce a "planned retirement" next year so he can go out on his "own terms"

- For what it's worth, Dolson did put out feelers and got positive feedback on interest from 2 of his top 3 potential replacement candidates; think we can get May with a text message, Pearl has serious interest but wouldn't make a move if his team makes a FF run or wins a natty. 

- I think we as a fanbase/board are higher on Dusty than the administration/BoT; sounds like they're only interested in a homerun hire, win now guy if they do move and risking a third straight miss isn't something they're willing to do and just because he has IU ties and made a good tourney run, feeling is May isn't a guarantee at this level.

That's what I've got that I'm able to share comfortably right now. Not what myself or anybody on this board probably wants to hear. Moral is one more year is 95% likely (everyone root for UCONN in the S16, and a miracle!) It's kind of messy internally and they're trying to move on to get IU back to a top tier program while letting Woodson ride into the sunset having left the program in a good place and "stepping aside" for the good of the program. ??

 

Thanks. Who was the top 3 candidate that didn’t reciprocate interest? I assume the interested candidates are Pearl and May. 

[RoadRage]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Hoosier Pride said:

 

 

Zero tolerance anyone?

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Then all we have to do is get some stooge to get him to grab his arm....or find someone willing to say he grabbed his arm?

[tyappleg]

18 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're not shy about using the private message feature. Sorry for ghosting many of you but easier to just post publicly.

And, now that I've effectively buried the lead, Woodson is back next year with a couple caveats and interesting details:

- Meeting Tuesday happened as scheduled and talk was future of the basketball program and specifically how Woody fits in that plan

- Though Dolson and BoT disagree about it happening now, consensus was that this isn't the bridge hire they'd hoped for and this is his last year barring some miracle B1G championship or FF run next year that would make for bad optics.

- Woodson was given the opportunity to retire and go out amicably but said no and that he thinks he can use the portal to put us in a better position to transition to another coach after next year.

- Dolson laid out expectations for portal results and win/loss results next season that would result in letting Woody go; just my opinion but it sounds like Buckner, boosters, etc. got him the 4th year but Scotty Dolson has his finger on the eject button and Woodson knows it. Fully expect him to announce a "planned retirement" next year so he can go out on his "own terms"

- For what it's worth, Dolson did put out feelers and got positive feedback on interest from 2 of his top 3 potential replacement candidates; think we can get May with a text message, Pearl has serious interest but wouldn't make a move if his team makes a FF run or wins a natty. 

- I think we as a fanbase/board are higher on Dusty than the administration/BoT; sounds like they're only interested in a homerun hire, win now guy if they do move and risking a third straight miss isn't something they're willing to do and just because he has IU ties and made a good tourney run, feeling is May isn't a guarantee at this level.

That's what I've got that I'm able to share comfortably right now. Not what myself or anybody on this board probably wants to hear. Moral is one more year is 95% likely (everyone root for UCONN in the S16, and a miracle!) It's kind of messy internally and they're trying to move on to get IU back to a top tier program while letting Woodson ride into the sunset having left the program in a good place and "stepping aside" for the good of the program. ??

 

Just braindead.  If the only thing saving him is a B10 title or a FF next year; just cut him loose now.  Barring a miracle, next year is just a lost year at this point and another year of apathy and the IU program sinking deeper into the depths of mediocrity.  Go get the guy you want now and get started on the rebuild.  Thanks for the update. 

[JerryYeagley23]

1 minute ago, Feathery said:

Thanks. Who was the top 3 candidate that didn’t reciprocate interest? I assume the interested candidates are Pearl and May. 

Appreciate the intent, but that name getting out would lose me my sources pretty quickly. 

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, rcbowla said:

FAU....not be that guy

FIU, FAU whatever it takes.  :)   

[Golfman25]

44 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

What are you even talking about? 

Old people?   I have no freaking idea.  :)  

[Herotime]

2 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Appreciate the intent, but that name getting out would lose me my sources pretty quickly. 

If you had to guess what’s it take for the 5% to increase? 

[DLG3]

Appreciate the intent, but that name getting out would lose me my sources pretty quickly. 

Hey Jerry, thanks so much for taking the time and for the detail. Are you personally a fan of Dolson and have trust that he will get this next hire right? Your update gives me some hope that he knows what he’s doing, but is perhaps handcuffed by admin/donors. Thanks!


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[RoncalliHoosier]

1 hour ago, Hornsby said:

We would pobably have to pay someone just to take him.

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And? That's a problem? We could start a Go Fund Me.