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Basketball coach has an excellent resume that should work out well big time for IU basketball program. However, the football program thus far is a steaming at a high rate of speed locomotive speeding down the tracks. IU men’s basketball is just starting to leave the train station….. good start doing what they are supposed to do beating up an Alabama A& M team.

Tremendous sizable coaching advantage for IU vs Penn State. That’s the difference in a head coach and staff making the big money based on elite winning tradition vs a program in disarray led by assistant coach/coaches….Expecting a Penn State team in disarray to be exploited into a solid to big IU take no prisoners win.

For some reason when T. Moren became IU coach I seen a product I liked and T. Buss and A. Cahill and program growth. Eventually, I was season ticket holder once 2 sets. Even when IU Ladies were at their best I attended games whenever I wanted; Sunday afternoons, early evenings or mid evening game vs Oklahoma. 50 miles away. I never used all tickets. I liked parking and open seating based on when you arrived vs the year it went to reserved seats etc. I like simple.Lol.

Yes, IU football success means basketball can wait.

That’s a couple examples. Need bigger sample size. However, overall Iowa just was a unique tradition with two final fours, and tons of C.C. and program publicity. Clark was getting full gyms everywhere. Example: Ohio State with McGuff had approximately 7, 800 fans in attendance at there season opener. They had success over the years been ranked, won big etc. little different time line

Sidenote: I am hardly ever interested in any professional football or basketball. However, others live in that area. Not sure what impact that may have for example on some of the college athletic programs attendance especially without winning on a high/elite level. Colts, Pacers, Fever and in this case IU football and basketball programs if they don’t win at a very high level though football always had attendance issues because they were often a losing program.

Depends on how you define sustainability and traditionally elite. There have been several programs not just one or two others. Not exactly at the same time but recent years IU Ladies success is comparable to other programs and sometimes even better in attendance and season ticket holders regarding Ladies basketball.

Specifically IU women basketball attendance is relatively to it’s success. It has some and briefly for 2 or 3 or 4 years at a high level. Real briefly at elite level. There are several schools in this category….However, a sustained tradition category is still in the process of still trying to be established. It’s not sustained and established. So attendance is favorably comparable to other schools in this category. The continually sold out or near sold out attendance programs are the elites that are elite year after year and has sustained tradition . Included is Iowa because of C.C.

Or if not 23 or 24 wins….9 losses or less. And yes no point to prove… that is my attitude. Hot very interested when playing and winning at high level, to warm always interested when not playing and winning at high level never cold until last few years in men’s basketball because of product. This is me in my 70s. Always pretty avid at a younger age win or lose.

20 win seasons are out dated 61% wins when you play 33 games (that’s only a 20 win and 13 loss season/ yes some to good to best teams. Needs to be updated to 23 or 24 wins.

Bargesser is at a good level for her. She did make 11 of 16 inside the 3 point line. I agree moderate success vs low level competition. Currently, IU Ladies are having strong success vs low level competition. I look at December 6 as a benchmark measuring stick to see where IU Ladies are at. At eleven games in there are six games that really don’t say hardly anything. (They do give repetitions and lots of practice). However, Florida State November, Butler, Gonzaga, Florida Gulf Coast, Gonzaga, and Illinois are the first measuring stick 25-26 for expectations for rest of big ten season and beyond……11-0 vs if any losses.

Bargesser scored 22 vs Weber State 11 of 20 fg (0 of 4 3 pointers), 0 for 1 fts, 4 defensive rebounds, 3 assists, 4 turnovers, 3 steals, 2 blocks in 35 minutes. And 1foul.

Month of November games that will say something about IU Ladies basketball. A couple warm up games exhibition and Lipscomb plus 5 more practice preseason games. Plus a game with Illinois December 6. Florida State November 16 Butler November 19 Florida Gulf Coast November 25 Gonzaga November 28 IU Ladies should be 11-0 excluding exhibition game. However, exhibition and Lipscomb games say hardly anything about IU Ladies success for this season. Up through December 6 will say something about expectations 25-26.

T. Moren referred to Nevaeh Caffey with toughness and relentlessness who gets it of Nevaeh Caffey beyond her years not a freshman with a deceptive baby face….don’t be fooled.

It’s a new way of football life to look at IU point spreads. Each week IU is favored by approximately 2 to 4 tds…..It’s just flipped over from what the past once was traditionally. Often IU covers the spread. (Working way out of most college football losses category).