General Coach Candidate News

[iu eyedoc]

42 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Lots of agent stuff flying around right now. Lots of people in IU circles are saying different names and some are saying different candidates are done. Scott has hired like 5 different coaches in the last week if you listen to every single rumor. 

Maybe SD is trying to sus out the leaky individual by floating different rumors.  JK

[Hoosierfan1901]

Smokescreens activated!

[Sandman]

2 minutes ago, PhilConnors said:

Personally,  it's not a standard I care to be a part of 

I have great news: If you aren't on the team or work for the IU basketball operation, you won't be part of it. 

[DSUMMITT]

11 hours ago, DSUMMITT said:

Thats why it won't happen. Think it's bad on a ball forum? Half my friends are professors or IT at IU - there's already so much animosity towards Admin that this kinda heat isn't worth it. Half the staff already really dislikes Whitten - she's gotta think this isn't a battle worth fighting IMHO.

 

Sep 9, 2024 — Since April, Whitten's faced a 93% majority vote of no confidence from over 800 members of IU's faculty and subsequent calls for termination ...

She's had a ton of criticism from the staff/profs - not one of my buddies want her to stick around and some of those are pretty darn conservative (for Bloomington).

She's a Quinn buddy - part of the reason we did not get Dusty May is because she strongly backed QB on keeping Woodson - remember that and how pissed off we all rightly were/are?  

Call my buddies soy boys or whatever (funny cause 1 of them trains UFC guys in BJJ - I wouldn't call him that) but it's a fact that they are looking for anything and everything to get her out of office - see plagiarism stories that just don't die if you want an example. Whitten is a political animal - she's not stupid - honestly I'll be surprised if this isn't shut down immediately at the first sign of blow back.  

(Don't shoot the messenger but as someone who went to IU and has lived in Bloomington for 30+ years (still does) - this town is about to explode politically - whether you agree with the reasons or not the climate is not good for a controversial hire)

C'mon BS rumors!!!! 

 

[BGleas]

4 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

Here's an exercise I think I'm going to try to do:

Side by side comparison of 2 similar (resume wise) candidates. Just not sure what the best criteria to use are. Anyhow here are some of my combos and feel free to add on.

Stevens-Donovan

Drew-Few

McCollum-Schertz

Woodson-Turgeon (this one is a joke)

Byington-Devries

Gates-Collins 

McCasland-Otzelberger

 

Interesting to see who people would pick amongst each duo. Without putting much thought to it and really off the top of my head, I would go:

Stevens

Few (Drew has the title and Indiana ties, Few has the longer history of consistent top teams but is older)

McCollum (tough one, I like Schertz too)

Turgeon :)

Devries 

Collins (tough one)

Otzelberger 

[TheDMV]

Would really start discussing Eric Olen seriously.

[Stuhoo]

Allow me to summarize the context of the problem with Beard:

• There is a video and a ton of stories out there about how he is a heavy, heavy drinker.
• The DV incident happened when he was drunk. Fair to say that incident is probably not the only time he has had a problem in his life because he drinks too much.
• There is no basis to believe he has stopped drinking - just the opposite.

Excellent basketball coach and maybe he can prove that he has successfully received treatment. If so? That is how I could see him getting a long look. But Kevin Wilson is surely in the minds of IU decision makers. 

And there are other options of fantastic coaches that don't have that potential key flaw. 

 

 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Only Beard and his then fiancée know what happened that night. Was it a one time thing? Was this something he’s done before? Is he the stereotypical 1950s partner who slaps his partner around when his dinner is a few minutes late? We don’t know. Sometimes relationships are toxic and people do regrettable, uncharacteristic things in them. I think I read on here that his partner also had a past history of DV, but I could be mistaken. It’s not hard to imagine a set of circumstances that would lead to a drunken fight between partners. It doesn’t excuse his actions.  We have free will. He could’ve chosen to remove himself from the situation. He didn’t, and he’s faced the consequences for that decision. The backstory doesn’t matter to some and I understand that, but I do think it’s important when you’re assessing the likelihood of it happening again. 

And if people think it’s disqualifying on its own and it doesn’t matter whether he’s likely to do it again, I have no problem with that view. I’m not clamoring for Beard as the #1 option. If we can hire someone as good or better, awesome! I’ll just be highly frustrated if Dolson passes on Beard to hire a Brownell. 

[Coach Robby]

1 minute ago, TheDMV said:

Would really start discussing Eric Olen seriously.

would rather do it jokingly Ant

[JimmerNoe]

10 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

Here's an exercise I think I'm going to try to do:

Side by side comparison of 2 similar (resume wise) candidates. Just not sure what the best criteria to use are. Anyhow here are some of my combos and feel free to add on.

Stevens-Donovan

Drew-Few

McCollum-Schertz

Woodson-Turgeon (this one is a joke)

Byington-Devries

Gates-Collins 

McCasland-Otzelberger

 

Stevens - he’s the white whale for a reason. Left and continued to be wildly successful while Donovan has been a mediocre NBA coach in his recent stop and is probably looking for an out.

Drew - younger, coming home, guards guards guards. Few is old and doesn’t want to leave the PNW.

McCollum but would probably be the same high ceiling low floor risk either way.

Otzelberger - would be my hope for the future 15-20 year lifer option. I hope we throw a massive bag at him if we don’t get Stevens or Drew. 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Probably have to listen to them on the radio broadcast.  Actual footage might be posted after the fact but that's a guess on my part.

I thought there were a few livestreams last years from some of the IU basketball blogs... I'm sure more info will get out soon...

[SlammySammy]

19 minutes ago, Ctf9 said:

Smart move here—the only thing potentially worse than the Beard discourse would be Israel-Palestine discourse, lol.  

Well, we have someone wanting to start a Bob Knight fight so get ready for that to rollout over the next few hours.....

[IUHoosierJoe]

2 minutes ago, TheDMV said:

Would really start discussing Eric Olen seriously.

He certainly would be good for the next planned misdirection after Beard.  He’s done remarkable things.

[JimmerNoe]

3 minutes ago, TheDMV said:

Would really start discussing Eric Olen seriously.

Wait! Did your friend who knows Turgeon ask Turgeon who Turgeon heard was going to get the job instead of him? And the search firm told him?!

great insight from our “friend of Turgeon and that’s the only reason I know anything”

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, TheDMV said:

Would really start discussing Eric Olen seriously.

That's a great discussion!

If we're thinking of rolling the dice him and McCollum are equals. 

I'll get behind either one and hope we hit the lotto winner. With guys like that the coaching industry reputation and the interviews of the candidate would be super-critical. Clearly they are both on the rise.

[#1fanofafrin]

1 minute ago, SlammySammy said:

Well, we have someone wanting to start a Bob Knight fight so get ready for that to rollout over the next few hours.....

[MBORO615]

I'm an Ole Miss baseball fan and follow their boards and program closely. In Chris Beard's time in Oxford, he has not had a single alcohol event that has been reported. Oxford is an easy place to find alcohol, so it's not like he wouldn't have the opportunity.

Their fanbase's biggest concern is that he hasn't bought a house in town yet.

 

[Hoosier987]

17 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Chris Beard is nothing more than an "In Case of Emergency Break Glass" candidate. 

 

That emergency would mean being rejected by at least 5-7 candidates, IU knowingly upsetting some big money donors, and facing immediate PR issues and a potential future PR nightmare.

 

In short...not happening.

I know, it’s shocking to some of you. But that’s not the case though…he’s not some emergency. He’s a viable candidate. 

[IU Prof]

32 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

Anyone else think Rabby talked Beard up as a PSYOP to stoke division on BTB and make this thread unreadable?

 

 

[Hoosier987]

1 minute ago, MBORO615 said:

I'm an Ole Miss baseball fan and follow their boards and program closely. In Chris Beard's time in Oxford, he has not had a single alcohol event that has been reported. Oxford is an easy place to find alcohol, so it's not like he wouldn't have the opportunity.

Their fanbase's biggest concern is that he hasn't bought a house in town yet.

 

Welcome! Great win against Tenn the other night.