moyemayhem Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 2 minutes ago, Motley's said: Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. Rk Coach From To Yrs G W L W-L% CREG CTRN NCAA FF NC 1 Greg McDermott 2011 2025 15 515 346 169 .672 2 2 9 0 0 2 Dana Altman 1995 2010 16 503 327 176 .650 3 6 7 0 0 3 Arthur Schabinger 1923 1935 13 229 163 66 .712 4 0 0 0 0 4 Red McManus 1960 1969 10 256 138 118 .539 0 0 2 0 0 5 Tom Apke 1975 1981 7 194 130 64 .670 1 2 3 0 0 6 Eddie Hickey 1936 1947 9 202 130 72 .644 4 0 1 0 0 7 Tony Barone 1986 1991 6 184 102 82 .554 2 2 2 0 0 8 Eddie Sutton 1970 1974 5 132 82 50 .621 0 0 1 0 0 9 Duce Belford 1946 There is a BIG difference between winning in the Missouri Valley Conference and winning in the Big East. Comparing McDermott’s success to the others is apples and oranges. pumpfake, TadQueasy, lillurk and 3 others 6
Silat Player Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 19 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said: LOL... reminds me of Blackmon, who could not guard a chair, according to DD Could you imagine those two being on the court at the same time? LOL
DSUMMITT Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 7 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said: There's is no way Collins would put up with Mgbako. I'm disappointed that we do. Where does the blame lie? Has anyone really tried anything but the hands off let him 'learn on the court' buddy 'grandpa' motivation? The talent is there - plus the sheer physical gifts - I'd love someone to get through to that young man. AZ Hoosier, thebigweave, CSP and 1 other 4
jimsorgi Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 6 minutes ago, 8bucks said: Can you expand that to sweet 16's, FF's, Rankings, that would help differentiate from being a mid-major to being more of a P5 school now Creighton has been to six Sweet Sixteens. 3 in the 1960s/1970s... then none from 1974 until McDermott made it in 2021, 2023, and 2024. Creighton made the second round three times prior to McDermott (in the 64+ team era) - 1991, 1999, and 2002. McDermott has made it 7 times in the last 12 years (edit: adjusting for covid year). I think he's a really solid coach. My biggest hesitation is they have had a few clunker seasons in there at Creighton, too. I like consistency...
LamarCheeks Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 13 minutes ago, Motley's said: Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. Rk Coach From To Yrs G W L W-L% CREG CTRN NCAA FF NC 1 Greg McDermott 2011 2025 15 515 346 169 .672 2 2 9 0 0 2 Dana Altman 1995 2010 16 503 327 176 .650 3 6 7 0 0 3 Arthur Schabinger 1923 1935 13 229 163 66 .712 4 0 0 0 0 4 Red McManus 1960 1969 10 256 138 118 .539 0 0 2 0 0 5 Tom Apke 1975 1981 7 194 130 64 .670 1 2 3 0 0 6 Eddie Hickey 1936 1947 9 202 130 72 .644 4 0 1 0 0 7 Tony Barone 1986 1991 6 184 102 82 .554 2 2 2 0 0 8 Eddie Sutton 1970 1974 5 132 82 50 .621 0 0 1 0 0 9 Duce Belford 1946 All the negativity on this board SUCKS. Folks, I got news for ya: Arthur Schabinger is not walking through that door. Red McManus is not walking through that door. Tom Apke is not walking through that door. The sooner you realize that, the better this program -- and this board -- will be. The only thing that's gonna turn this around is being upbeat and positive. iu eyedoc and lillurk 2
tyappleg Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 46 minutes ago, Silat Player said: Thats true. But, what happened at Iowa State? McDermott was 59-68 there. If anything, I would worry about that... I guess you can worry about that. But we're almost 20 years removed from that with a large sample size saying he knows how to coach at the P5 level. He wouldn't be my top choice, but we could do much much worse. jimsorgi and Ctf9 2
Uspshoosier Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 1 minute ago, 8bucks said: Can you expand that to sweet 16's, FF's, Rankings, that would help differentiate from being a mid-major to being more of a P5 school now Sweet 16 1962, 1964, 1974. All in a mid major conference before McDermott With McDermott in a top 4 conference Sweet 16 2021, 2023, 2024. Half of the schools total number and all in the last 5 years of him coaching Elite 8 1941- 2023 half the schools elite 8 appearances and first since 1941(ncaa tourney started in 1939) 8bucks, Unexpectedflash and MikeRoberts 3
CSP Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 1 minute ago, DSUMMITT said: Where does the blame lie? Has anyone really tried anything but the hands off let him 'learn on the court' buddy 'grandpa' motivation? The talent is there - plus the sheer physical gifts - I'd love someone to get through to that young man. why doesn't he hustle in the mean time or ever create for a teammate? my last post on MM, who I think is the most selfish player I've seen in an IU uniform. DSUMMITT 1
Unexpectedflash Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 Feel like Mcdermott would be a hire similar to pope or kelsey last year. Louisville and Kentucky both struck out on their top options but ended up with lesser known coaches that know their stuff and are having a lot of success this year. I really do think we could do a lot worse than Mcdermott but maybe I'm biased because I live in Omaha. lillurk, Alford Bailey and bird4par 3
RaceToTheTop Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 12 minutes ago, Motley's said: Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. Rk Coach From To Yrs G W L W-L% CREG CTRN NCAA FF NC 1 Greg McDermott 2011 2025 15 515 346 169 .672 2 2 9 0 0 2 Dana Altman 1995 2010 16 503 327 176 .650 3 6 7 0 0 3 Arthur Schabinger 1923 1935 13 229 163 66 .712 4 0 0 0 0 4 Red McManus 1960 1969 10 256 138 118 .539 0 0 2 0 0 5 Tom Apke 1975 1981 7 194 130 64 .670 1 2 3 0 0 6 Eddie Hickey 1936 1947 9 202 130 72 .644 4 0 1 0 0 7 Tony Barone 1986 1991 6 184 102 82 .554 2 2 2 0 0 8 Eddie Sutton 1970 1974 5 132 82 50 .621 0 0 1 0 0 9 Duce Belford 1946 For the record: no one has a higher career winning percentage at Creighton in the last 90 years than McDermott does. And he's done it in the Big East instead of MVC. Dana Altman is a decent coach. He won less in the MVC than McDermott has in the Big East. lillurk, thebigweave, CSP and 2 others 5
DSUMMITT Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Chris007 said: But the donors lost the right to decide this when they decided Woodson was the guy to coach these guys. Even though everyone told them he couldn't coach Absolutely - I'm just saying IF those 4 stuck around (plus Goode) - I wouldn't be mad. With the right coach I'd love to see them all grow - I don't blame any of them for this year. Immaturity and focus can be tempered by the right structure and coach imho. I would say CW stubbornness in his system and his lack of 'coaching' college kids have done his talent little good. Edited March 5, 2025 by DSUMMITT tkbbn, Chris007 and CSP 3
Chris007 Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 4 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: All the negativity on this board SUCKS. Folks, I got news for ya. Arthur Schabinger is not walking through that door. Red McManus is not walking through that door. Tom Apke is not walking through that door. The sooner you realize that, the better this program -- and this board -- will be. The only thing that's gonna turn this around is being upbeat and positive. I really like Art, he just hangs around mamasa, iu eyedoc and Willkie71 3
Unexpectedflash Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 Maybe this is wrong but Goode is really the only player I want back from this team. I want a new coach and a fresh start from the Woody era Hoosierfanyuh, hoosierbannerd and Chris007 3
Silat Player Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 3 minutes ago, tyappleg said: I guess you can worry about that. But we're almost 20 years removed from that with a large sample size saying he knows how to coach at the P5 level. He wouldn't be my top choice, but we could do much much worse. I can absolutely agree with that. I wouldn't hate a McDermott hire. He's a solid coach. I just feel like if you're going to hire a 60 year old coach, he'd better be a guy who can get you a title soon. He isn't going to develop anymore. He's a completely finished product. And no more "bridge" talk. Such a stupid and unnecessary idea, especially in the age of NIL and the transfer portal. pumpfake and str8baller 2
Artie86 Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 1 minute ago, Unexpectedflash said: Maybe this is wrong but Goode is really the only player I want back from this team. I want a new coach and a fresh start from the Woody era ....I heard he may be looking for a way to get another year at IU. skhoosier2 1
pumpfake Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 12 minutes ago, jimsorgi said: Kalkbrenner has been on that team forever. I really prefer that to one-year rentals. jimsorgi 1
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 Just now, Artie86 said: ....I heard he may be looking for a way to get another year at IU. That’s a fact btw, he is trying to get a medical year due to him missing a majority of his sophomore season. Artie86 and Chris007 2
AZ Hoosier Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 22 minutes ago, jimsorgi said: I didn't have "ability to shut down court storming" on my list of priorities. Need to revisit our other candidates. I'm not sure Mark Turgeon would be as effective in that role. It's a non-issue... because the next coach should have Indiana in the position to always be the higher ranked team ... the #1 ranked team doesn't storm the court when they win any game. jimsorgi 1
Uspshoosier Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 37 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said: I really do think we could do a lot worse than Mcdermott but maybe I'm biased because I live in Omaha. McDermott would be a home run hire. Stealing a sitting coach at a top 4 conference coach with his resume would be a steal. Not sure why he would want to slum it down to a middle of the pack B1G team that is in rebuild mode when he has things humming at the top half of the Big East with the same amount of fan support there then he would get here Alford Bailey, CSP, IUGRAD06 and 2 others 5
Popular Post Hovadipo Posted March 5, 2025 Popular Post Posted March 5, 2025 10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: I’m just being realistic, I definitely want him, but it feels like a prayer. I also read something that their potential sale won’t be finalized until 2028. Fine. Hire Pitino (Slick) and try again in a few years when the Celtics cap hell has become a reality. When that fails due to Brad going to coach Wemby and Fox, see if Dusty is ready to come home. When Dusty is fired 4 years later, try Brad again. When he turns us down to become the commissioner, hire Schertz and hang 5 more banners. It’s a fool-proof plan guys. Get right or get left. str8baller, FWHoosier84, IU Faithful and 8 others 10 1
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