General Coach Candidate News

[IUHoosierJoe]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not doubting what you are saying but I would add that both of those hires used IU money only. I mean that IU had the money in the budget to pay the coaches. If IU is offering someone 10-12 million over 8-10 years they need some donor help. Those donors are meeting with the candidate right now. JMO opinion of course and I have been wrong before

Also, IU has a lot more time to do it’s homework on this hire.

[JimmerNoe]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Not doubting what you are saying but I would add that both of those hires used IU money only. I mean that IU had the money in the budget to pay the coaches. If IU is offering someone 10-12 million over 8-10 years they need some donor help. Those donors are meeting with the candidate right now. JMO opinion of course and I have been wrong before

Personally, I would think that if this person is having multiple in-person meetings with donors about compensation, things would be advanced enough that we are talking about getting something in writing sooner rather than later. I can’t imagine from our side of things that anyone would say “no” after meeting with Brad. Would that seem to be along the lines of what you are hearing? Or why else would the donors putting up the money need to meet with him?

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

Except Ferguson, right?

I've heard he is redeeming himself this time.

[94Hoosier]

I just don’t understand all the love for Drew.   Something seems off to me a bout the idea of him being hired. 
 

21 seasons. Resulting in 5 sweet sixteens of which three produced elite 8’s and one championship.  Much better than what we’ve had no doubt, but I don’t see him as a home run in any circumstance
 

Keep in mind the one title was in a very odd set up for a ncaa tournament and had a huge number of upsets. 

[MonteMarcaccini]

1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

Except Ferguson, right?

Exactly.  Scary if the Donors are actually conducting meetings.  

[Chris007]

Just now, IUHoosierJoe said:

Also, IU has a lot more time to do it’s homework on this hire.

Yes, they do. I think the idea was to have an initial talk, get some things started, get the spotlight off for a while, and then start back up when everyone is in a good place. It's painfully slow for us, but I think it's working out how everyone wants too. 

[Uspshoosier]

5 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

So with Rabjohns saying he doesn’t have a clue what Dolson is thinking in this search, does that mean we can safely disregard his hot board and intel on this matter? I didn’t see a hot board post from anyone yesterday so maybe he didn’t put one out, but it seems like admitting you don’t know what the hiring party is thinking at all should exclude you from making much commentary on who they will pick lol

That’s a good thing.  It means the AD is keeping this search close to his inner circle.  Trilly basically has been saying the same thing about not hearing much.  Personally I love it that nobody has a clue as to who they are really targeting and it’s refreshing 

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

Personally, I would think that if this person is having multiple in-person meetings with donors about compensation, things would be advanced enough that we are talking about getting something in writing sooner rather than later. I can’t imagine from our side of things that anyone would say “no” after meeting with Brad. Would that seem to be along the lines of what you are hearing? Or why else would the donors putting up the money need to meet with him?

I would agree with that

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

3 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

Personally, I would think that if this person is having multiple in-person meetings with donors about compensation, things would be advanced enough that we are talking about getting something in writing sooner rather than later. I can’t imagine from our side of things that anyone would say “no” after meeting with Brad. Would that seem to be along the lines of what you are hearing? Or why else would the donors putting up the money need to meet with him?

I think for me the biggest tell is that everyone with connection to college coaches/agents are hearing literally nothing. That has to be something IMO

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

I just don’t understand all the love for Drew

He is considered a top 5 coach in the game today by pretty much every outlet that ranks coaches.  His peers think he is a top 5 coach and he is a future Hall of Fame coach.   For me I don’t understand the push back for him from a coaching on the court standpoint.  Schools that have been middle of the pack in their own league for 10+ years don’t usually pull those types of coaches 

[JimmerNoe]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

That’s a good thing.  It means the AD is keeping this search close to his inner circle.  Trilly basically has been saying the same thing about not hearing much.  Personally I love it that nobody has a clue as to who they are really targeting and it’s refreshing 

Totally agree. And I agree with your sentiment that IU will be getting a great coach no matter what based on the factors we’ve gone over here before (compensation, revenue, NIL). The only negative to a tight lipped search is the chance it is a left field hire technically exists and we can’t be 100 percent confident in the pool they are choosing from. Which i think is the reason for continued paranoia on the boards given our recent history. Lol

[Uspshoosier]

Also if he got those results at a place like Baylor in a conference that  is arguably been the best basketball conference during his time what could he do at a place that has better resources and plays in a conference there for the taking for an elite coach to come in and put his mark on it.   B1G still hasn’t produced a national championship coach in 25 years.  Let that sink in.   No B1G coach has won a national championship in 25 years.   Izzo was a young man last time the B1G won.  Now he is the all-time leader in wins in the conference.    Personally I would love to see what a coach with Drew’s resume could do at a place like IU in the B1G conference 

[RaceToTheTop]

7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

He is considered a top 5 coach in the game today by pretty much every outlet that ranks coaches.  His peers think he is a top 5 coach and he is a future Hall of Fame coach.   For me I don’t understand the push back for him from a coaching on the court standpoint.  Schools that have been middle of the pack in their own league for 10+ years don’t usually pull those types of coaches 

Agreed.  While the whole Hanner Perea thing leaves a bad taste, that was a long time ago and no one can doubt his on court results.

[MikeRoberts]

13 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

I just don’t understand all the love for Drew.   Something seems off to me a bout the idea of him being hired. 
 

21 seasons. Resulting in 5 sweet sixteens of which three produced elite 8’s and one championship.  Much better than what we’ve had no doubt, but I don’t see him as a home run in any circumstance
 

Keep in mind the one title was in a very odd set up for a ncaa tournament and had a huge number of upsets. 

He’s having an average year this year so that might cloud some perceptions or excitement around him, but what he has done at Baylor of all places is pretty awesome.

that place was a dumpster fire and he’s made them relevant

[RaceToTheTop]

17 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

I just don’t understand all the love for Drew.   Something seems off to me a bout the idea of him being hired. 
 

21 seasons. Resulting in 5 sweet sixteens of which three produced elite 8’s and one championship.  Much better than what we’ve had no doubt, but I don’t see him as a home run in any circumstance
 

Keep in mind the one title was in a very odd set up for a ncaa tournament and had a huge number of upsets. 

Drew is 20-11 in the NCAA tournament and 10-3 in the NIT.  That's outstanding.

[Mr. Hoosier Pride]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

The P is silent

....but deadly

[HoosierInParadise]

Drew is 20-11 in the NCAA tournament and 10-3 in the NIT.  That's outstanding.

I also love that UK wanted him and he said no. If we don't get Stevens and Drew says yes to us, it will make it that much sweeter of a hire that he spurned UK...

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

The only thing I could see with Drew is that with the new revenue sharing that he teams in the big 12 will be at a disadvantage. With the Big 10 and the SEC getting more revenue than the other conferences I could see coaches in the other league thinking they are at a disadvantage.

The revenue sharing cap is the same, regardless of conference. The difference is that the B1G and SEC schools will likely go to the cap. The B12 and ACC schools may also, but it would be harder for them to do.

Where IU gets the edge is that they've said they'd take the B1G average (or maybe it was the median?) going to basketball and double that. So they're willing to commit a larger percentage of the revenue share with basketball while many schools will be concentrating on football.

IU has also shown that they have a large pool of NIL money for the basketball team.

In addition, the large amount of money coming in to the athletic department means that they should be able to at very least keep up if not exceed other conferences in terms of facilities, pay, other staff positions such as GM to make coaching life a bit easier, etc.

[CSP]

22 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

I just don’t understand all the love for Drew.   Something seems off to me a bout the idea of him being hired. 
 

21 seasons. Resulting in 5 sweet sixteens of which three produced elite 8’s and one championship.  Much better than what we’ve had no doubt, but I don’t see him as a home run in any circumstance
 

Keep in mind the one title was in a very odd set up for a ncaa tournament and had a huge number of upsets. 

so if Drew isn't a homerun, who is that isn't Oates, Stevens, or Pearl?

[tyappleg]

17 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

I just don’t understand all the love for Drew.   Something seems off to me a bout the idea of him being hired. 
 

21 seasons. Resulting in 5 sweet sixteens of which three produced elite 8’s and one championship.  Much better than what we’ve had no doubt, but I don’t see him as a home run in any circumstance
 

Keep in mind the one title was in a very odd set up for a ncaa tournament and had a huge number of upsets. 

Now look at Baylor before he got there. 

Drew is a top 3 candidate for this job based on what he has accomplished. You can not like him for other reasons, but his accomplishments should not be one of them. 

If Drew isn't good enough, you have unrealistic expectations.