General Coach Candidate News

[AZ Hoosier 10,840]

36 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Wow. I have a lot of friends not happy about that lol

Indeed... remembering how most of us felt about this time last year... without the benefit of a Woodson extension... just the fact that he was being retained for another year... But, it's Carolina, so let 'em weep.

[darB s'tI 1,819]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

One observation I’ve made and it’s probably because of 4 years ago but when someone makes a Stevens is out post like Sam made earlier it believed a lot more than when RTZ makes a Stevens to IU post. RTZ has been right many more times than Sam in recent years. Sam had most of his info during the Crean years. 
 

Also on a side note my DM’s pick way up with the Stevens not coming than the Stevens is coming. 
 

Just some quick thoughts.

Sam shut down his blog at one point after "missing" on so many stories and people throttling him for it.

[DSUMMITT 444]

OK - how didn't this get leaked? Maybe I should revisit my stance on conspiracy theories (no more then 2 people can keep a secret and then only if they aren't married):
Davis extension:
The agreement was reached in July, but the deal was signed in December, according to a copy of the contract obtained by WRAL on Tuesday.

Are any of these 'site owners' connected at all? The insiders on UNC 247 have said nothing about this on their sites and have been speculating on his firing since the second week of the season. Crazy.

Edited February 25 by DSUMMITT

[Home Jersey 15,846]

Let’s just hope at the end of March we are all happy as clams with the new hire and can look back at February laughing about all the debates around Cronin/Beard, McCollum vs DeVries (lol) resting with ease knowing IU basketball is about to win big again. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,716]

2 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

This is a Pat Kelsey/Mark Pope kind of hire than can work out.

Pat Kelsey was a homerun. Sign me up

[Chris007 62,386]

1 minute ago, DSUMMITT said:

OK - how didn't this get leaked? Maybe I should revisit my stance on conspiracy theories (no more then 2 people can keep a secret and then only if they aren't married):
Davis extension:
The agreement was reached in July, but the deal was signed in December, according to a copy of the contract obtained by WRAL on Tuesday.

Are any of these 'site owners' doing at all? The insiders on UNC 247 have said nothing about this on their sites and have been speculating on his firing since the second week of the season. Crazy.

I feel better after reading that.

[tyappleg 8,000]

35 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

Was curious on that as well.  Steven's a GM, bring in a young coach like a McCollum paid at a lower rate.  That to me is more plausible than Steven's stepping down as GM to coach college.  

Stevens stepping down as GM for the Celtics to take a made up role of GM of a college basketball program is way more insane then him returning to coach.  

The coach is the GM for all intents and purposes; the GM position is made up for somebody to do the busy work the coach doesn't want to do. 

[lillurk 5,072]

McCollum and/or DeVries fans will likely get one or the other at Iowa, BTW

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,716]

6 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Over McCollum?????? No way

Very confused by this 

[AZ Hoosier 10,840]

29 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Could be mistaken but think it’ll still be dirt cheap to fire him next year. Giving their alum a 4th year too with more resources. They’ll probably end up looking smarter than us lol 

Largely because even a mediocre Hubert Davis is a better coach than the King of Mediocrity

[jimsorgi 1,134]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

One observation I’ve made and it’s probably because of 4 years ago but when someone makes a Stevens is out post like Sam made earlier it believed a lot more than when RTZ makes a Stevens to IU post. RTZ has been right many more times than Sam in recent years. Sam had most of his info during the Crean years. 
 

Also on a side note my DM’s pick way up with the Stevens not coming than the Stevens is coming. 
 

Just some quick thoughts.

Yeah - nothing against Story personally, and not saying that Stevens will end up at IU, but ... it's been a while since Story seemed particularly in the loop. 

[IUguy77 379]

2 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

OK - how didn't this get leaked? Maybe I should revisit my stance on conspiracy theories (no more then 2 people can keep a secret and then only if they aren't married):
Davis extension:
The agreement was reached in July, but the deal was signed in December, according to a copy of the contract obtained by WRAL on Tuesday.

Are any of these 'site owners' doing at all? The insiders on UNC 247 have said nothing about this on their sites and have been speculating on his firing since the second week of the season. Crazy.

You make a good point. And it was also being hid while people are calling for his job. 

[Hoosierfan2017 24,849]

4 minutes ago, iu-dl said:

Sam shut down his blog at one point after "missing" on so many stories and people throttling him for it.

He would constantly delete his tweets too after everything he’d tweet about inevitably wouldn’t happen. Where did his alleged “insider” designation even come from? 

[Stuhoo 89,206]

12 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Over McCollum?????? No way

I tried this the other day with comparing McCollum to some other candidate:

Other than "being really good in D2" name one category that McCollum is better than Devries from the following:

• P5 experience and wins
• D1 high school recruiting success
• D1 portal recruiting success
• Agent interaction
• Big alumni base, and big organization success
• Mentoring and mentored by top tier coaches
• Success of teams against top tier coaches
• Wins
• NCAA wins
• Developing players for the next level
• Playing or assisting at a D1 or P5 program
• Wins against ranked teams
• Winning with a new roster/roster turnover
• Modern offense

So I'm naming 15 categories. I'll readily concede that McCollum is better in one: D2 success. Devries is better in the other 14.

[PartyintheVillas 1,028]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Let’s just hope at the end of March we are all happy as clams with the new hire and can look back at February laughing about all the debates around Cronin/Beard, McCollum vs DeVries (lol) resting with ease knowing IU basketball is about to win big again. 

I want to be happy at the end of next March, whoever the hire may be will get my belief and support. Indiana is like 10 time defending off-season champs, I can live with average highlights in the off-season if we can take care of winning basketball games.

[ap2345 11,320]

38 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I see 0 chance Brad Stevens wants a college basketball GM job. The people taking those roles are not in the same stratosphere as someone of Stevens’ profile IMO. 

Anyone suggesting that doesn't understand what the position does.

[RoadToZion 2,193]

Sam loves to listen to himself talk. That’s all I have for now. 

[PartyintheVillas 1,028]

8 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Pat Kelsey was a homerun. Sign me up

We need to remember he was maybe the 5th preferred candidate after Louisville struck out and had to scramble a little. The same thing happened at Kentucky and they are having success so far as well. Resume, preparedness, and fit can all line up in strange ways. Like maybe if Tom Crean was at UCLA and Steve Alford were at Indiana, the fit works out for both of them when maybe they aren't great coaches at other places (complete made up hypothetical don't kill me for Tom Crean and Steve Alford references.) Maybe Cronin can kill it here but someone like Scott Drew can't. It doesn't always work out like on paper or internet message boards.

[Hoosierfan2017 24,849]

I’m hard to please, but Devries isn’t the worst name I’ve heard thrown out there. Brownell and McCollum being two I’d put below Devries.

Hopefully we get Scott Drew and don’t have to call down to the Devries tier, but I’d be leaps and bounds over our last hire. 

[Bowhunter 3,124]

If I was a guy that liked attention and was known for missing on things. I’d bet the other way this time on Stevens. Odds should be in Sam’s favor.