General Coach Candidate News

[AZ Hoosier]

13 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I understand where you come from. Just sucks how good of a coach he is!

No doubt, he has the chops... but ...

[Demo]

54 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Damn straight.

Demo; you’re in Missouri and some posters may not be aware; you have a cut above hoops analysis resume compared to pretty much anyone on the board.

What’s the scoop on Gates?

His stuff isn’t super special. He runs a lot of half court offense out of horns derivatives. Really likes that action a lot. They push pace, and they create a lot of 3’s but they’re not Bama. They play a lot of different defenses. I mean more than anyone. You watch a full Mizzou game and you’ll see man, 2-3, 1-3-1, they’ll trap half and 3/4 court out  1-2-2 and full court out of 1-2-1-1. They don’t play more than a handful of possessions without changing up. And they create a bunch of to’s, but I don’t think it’s about to’s strictly, it’s about just physically and mentally wearing teams down. He plays 10 guys or more every night, he insists on max effort or you’re gonna sit immediately, and they’re just tough to play. And they play without fear and he doesn’t bust them for odd mistakes. Bates looks like a completely different guy there. He makes a mistake now and he just plays. But what he does bust is effort. He sees a kid halfa$$ a play and thery’re sitting on the next dead ball. He plays so much depth he can do that. Even at a higher profile job I doubt he would load up on 5-star types. He really likes him his chip-on-their-shoulder kids.  I like the guy a lot. Think he’s very good. And as I mentioned earlier, how he handled himself last year through that mess was super impressive. Dude just grinds. Would be pretty floored if he’s part of the conversation here, but would be fine with it if he is. 

[OKHOOSIER]

9 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

As people have pointed out that stevens isn't a grinder, not something I really believe but whatever.....

Nobody is going to say that about dusty may. He eats, sleeps, and breathes basketball. If he fails, it 100% won't be for the lack of trying

I think with Stevens one thing that cannot be overlooked is his ability to construct a roster to his system, and the fact his coaching staff would probably be elite as well. So IMO, for him, being a grinder so to speak may be secondary to surrounding the program with the best minds/assistant grinders he can. Whereas Dusty would not have the draw from a staff perspective like Stevens.

But I think it is definitely a valid Con in the discussion for Brad. For me, the bigger one would simply how long he's been our of CBB. I do not think it would ultimately matter do to what I already stated, but if we are being honest I think it is valid.

All this grinder talk is making wish the airport I am whiling away in had a sub shop lol

[Hoosierfan2017]

Dusty’s got Michigan at 17-5 and third in the conference after UM went 8-24 and finished dead last the previous year. I was skeptical of his FAU success translating but he’d be a real solid hire. 

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Here ya go. FAU’s entire basketball history. Dusty started in the 18-19 season for reference. 

Holy smokes.

If that doesn’t remind everyone just how fantastic a hire Dusty May would be, I don’t know what will.

 

[Muskie plays the four]

29 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

First off the part of Greene County he’s from is closer to Bloomington then it is Terre Haute so that’s crazy talk. 
 

He gets IU, no one wins at that school and he grinds all the time like Cignetti. Constantly watching film.

He did spend time in the  summer in terre haute with relatives. 

[RoadRage]

22 minutes ago, cleeter said:

Well that’s what I get for reading his hometown off Wikipedia. A simple google search says “Greene County” everywhere I’ll take the L on that one.


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He was born in Terre Haute but grew up in Greene County and went to high school at Eastern Greene.

[Demo]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Holy smokes.

If that doesn’t remind everyone just how fantastic a hire Dusty May would be, I don’t know what will.

 

Honestly, I know you have to play the Stevens stuff out, but assuming 3rd times not a charm there and May is willing to leave UM after a year I think it’s a pretty straightforward call.

[Hovadipo]

8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Holy smokes.

If that doesn’t remind everyone just how fantastic a hire Dusty May would be, I don’t know what will.

 

Only takes one hand and a toe to count the amount of times they were above .500 before hiring him. A feat he matched in…one hand and a toe number of years himself. 

[BleedCubbieBlue]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Go back in time and not beat up a woman. That one event alone makes me a solid NO for all of eternity.

We've all done things in life that we regret, but there's no excuse for putting your hands on a woman in that manner... walk away, call a friend for help... but the path that he "allegedly" took is completely unacceptable to me. Full stop.

I agree with you. I have had the misfortune of suffering a concussion, dislocated fingers, and a broken nose defending a girl that I didn’t even know, who I saw get punched in her face by her boyfriend.

All that said, if Beard is in recovery, comes out and speaks about what he did and how he effed up. Goes to schools to talk to kids about domestic violence. Donates money to women’s shelters. Becomes an advocate for women who are victims of domestic abuse. Attends AA meetings weekly. Devotes himself to God. Attends church daily. Takes a vow of poverty. Takes a vow of celibacy. Spends most of his free time volunteering to build homes for veterans that survived POW camps. Spends the rest of his time rescuing puppies from villains in Disney stories.

None of that moves the needle? The answer is still no? Full stop?

I really want to understand if Beard is completely irredeemable.

[RoadRage]

4 minutes ago, Demo said:

Honestly, I know you have to play the Stevens stuff out, but assuming 3rd times not a charm there and May is willing to leave UM after a year I think it’s a pretty straightforward call.

It’s probably just a coincidence that May is coming to town tomorrow…..I wonder if he wishes he had waited one more year at FAU?

[Sobchak_Security]

1 hour ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Feels like we had a lot of people lurking, waiting for the Woody shoe to drop. Welcome, post and lose the jockstrap!

That would be me!  I’ve been a long time reader, but I’m not really connected to anyone and didn’t feel I had much to offer in terms of insights.  But optimism that Dolson can do with the mens basketball program what he did with football.  

[Sobchak_Security]

43 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

As people have pointed out that stevens isn't a grinder, not something I really believe but whatever.....

Nobody is going to say that about dusty may. He eats, sleeps, and breathes basketball. If he fails, it 100% won't be for the lack of trying

From all accounts Crean was a grinder.  That alone won’t guarantee success.  My concern with May is that he isn’t an Alpha personality and that is what this program desperately needs IMO.  The list of those who are is slim, but I think Dolson needs to land one of those types.

[gfeltner28]

Part of me is so excited for the coaching search. 

https://images.app.goo.gl/xnGPvC4nf773FVts5

But I've been hurting for a lot of years. And my faith is weak. 

https://images.app.goo.gl/brdYbsxGAgciuLN37

 

 

[wirenuts]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

You saw Terre Haute because it’s one of the closest hospitals to BFE Greene County lol. 

Actually that's Linton but I get your point 

[JaybobHoosier]

4 hours ago, cbp4iu said:

No he 100% still has dial up

Rotary phone for sure! 

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, Sobchak_Security said:

That would be me!  I’ve been a long time reader, but I’m not really connected to anyone and didn’t feel I had much to offer in terms of insights.  But optimism that Dolson can do with the mens basketball program what he did with football.  

Welcome to posting here —

and don’t worry those who don’t have much to offer post all the time! :)

[yogisballin]

1 hour ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I agree with you. I have had the misfortune of suffering a concussion, dislocated fingers, and a broken nose defending a girl that I didn’t even know, who I saw get punched in her face by her boyfriend.

All that said, if Beard is in recovery, comes out and speaks about what he did and how he effed up. Goes to schools to talk to kids about domestic violence. Donates money to women’s shelters. Becomes an advocate for women who are victims of domestic abuse. Attends AA meetings weekly. Devotes himself to God. Attends church daily. Takes a vow of poverty. Takes a vow of celibacy. Spends most of his free time volunteering to build homes for veterans that survived POW camps. Spends the rest of his time rescuing puppies from villains in Disney stories.

None of that moves the needle? The answer is still no? Full stop?

I really want to understand if Beard is completely irredeemable.

Listen, I don't support what allegedly happened. We all wasn't there and don't know the situation. But if the man can get IU back to the promise land? I'd say go for it! I'm tired of losing to ******* Purdue! 

[yogisballin]

1 hour ago, Sobchak_Security said:

From all accounts Crean was a grinder.  That alone won’t guarantee success.  My concern with May is that he isn’t an Alpha personality and that is what this program desperately needs IMO.  The list of those who are is slim, but I think Dolson needs to land one of those types.

Honestly, I don't want May personally but that's just me. May be totally wrong here but we'll see

[rcbowla]

4 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Welcome to posting here —

and don’t worry those who don’t have much to offer post all the time! :)

Yep look how many times I've posted......have yet to offer a damn thing here!