General Coach Candidate News

[TheWatShot]

5 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

The cig love is over the top based on one season. This year's schedule is much harder. This year is his true test. They will say he isn't tom allen but the Allen love was the same after the covid year.

 

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IU football isn't going to go 11-1 every year. He could win 7 or 8 next year and I'd still be happy to have him here. 

[Pagoda]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Yea, and nothing has actually happened!

[BehindTheBench]

If Zach confirms it, it’s game over. Keep this thread going and we can debate again in 3 years 

[Kentuckysucks]

8 minutes ago, HoosierInParadise said:

15 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Some are being drama queens or just don't understand the college basketball landscape 
Have you actually paid attention to the hires of power conference teams lately. Show me all of these power conference coaches leaving their jobs for another power conference team. You have a guy like Cal who wanted out of UK and UL was ready for a change but you don't see successful coaches leaving.
To me UK hiring Pope is the Equivalent of us hiring Brownell. UL hiring Kelsey would he no different than us hiring McCollum.

I don't understand the college basketball landscape at all. I don't understand what 9, 10, 11 million per year will get you anymore. If we don't finally just make someone, that is worth it, the highest paid coach in college basketball....I just don't understand at all. It communicates one of three things to me. Either the IU job is just not an attractive job anymore to any top coach, or we aren't serious about turning this around, or both. Pay enough money, and you're going to get the best out there.

The donors are only willing to pony up the big dollars for the one guy they know IU can't get.

[Pagoda]

2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

IU football isn't going to go 11-1 every year. He could win 7 or 8 next year and I'd still be happy to have him here. 

Anyone who just cites the schedule isn’t paying attention to IUFB.  And you’re right, 7 or 8 wins is fine.  This is a multi-year project to get out of the bottom of the conference.

[Over 100 Games]

5 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

What? I’m not upset at what you’re saying. It just isn’t believable, unless one of two things is true. And for the second time, to paraphrase myself since you again ignored what I said.
 

Either Scott Dolson is maybe the dumbest person on earth for allowing someone like Stevens who is in an infinitely more cushy job have five weeks to think it over (or longer since we have been squarely on the bubble the entire time). Or Brad Stevens is being begged to take a job for 70 million dollars and can’t quite make up his mind like he’s getting dressed for prom. It’s absurd on its face on both accounts.

The most logical explanation is there was possibly an initial agreement. Hence, tons of smoke, which cleared out within a week when he probably told Dolson no. Since, it’s been played close to the vest. It doesn’t have to be more complicated than that. Or, which I’ve said twice now, the agreement is still in place, which I personally think is unlikely, but still possible. 

This is the most level headed take anyone has had on here ever

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, BehindTheBench said:

If Zach confirms it, it’s game over. Keep this thread going and we can debate again in 3 years 

Yeah okay Isaac, how can you type when you're so busy kissing the Brad poster on your bedroom wall?

[IU05]

7 minutes ago, BehindTheBench said:

Oh, yeah, that was just a comment aimed towards if I’m saying Brad, Brad, Brad, only to hire a small time D2 coach, im probably not showing my face or talking too much 

Fair. Hopefully it’s just Dolson giving the team the talk to shut down all talking. 

[Scotty R]

9 minutes ago, HoosierInParadise said:

16 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Some are being drama queens or just don't understand the college basketball landscape 
Have you actually paid attention to the hires of power conference teams lately. Show me all of these power conference coaches leaving their jobs for another power conference team. You have a guy like Cal who wanted out of UK and UL was ready for a change but you don't see successful coaches leaving.
To me UK hiring Pope is the Equivalent of us hiring Brownell. UL hiring Kelsey would he no different than us hiring McCollum.

I don't understand the college basketball landscape at all. I don't understand what 9, 10, 11 million per year will get you anymore. If we don't finally just make someone, that is worth it, the highest paid coach in college basketball....I just don't understand at all. It communicates one of three things to me. Either the IU job is just not an attractive job anymore to any top coach, or we aren't serious about turning this around, or both. Pay enough money, and you're going to get the best out there.

So I guess the UK job is no longer attractive since they got turned down by top coaches and settled for Pope who.had never won a tournament game.

[Jeff Flabjohns]

7 minutes ago, BehindTheBench said:

Oh, yeah, that was just a comment aimed towards if I’m saying Brad, Brad, Brad, only to hire a small time D2 coach, im probably not showing my face or talking too much 

You talking about your friend or you on this site?

Seems like some of the “sourced” folks are the most butthurt about a potential McCollum hire 

[Uspshoosier]

Sounds like IU is going to hire an actual college basketball coach.   Let’s go.  Get in the box take a swing  and hope we are not doing this 4 years down the road.  If true it’s a breath of fresh air an actual college basketball coach will be in charge of the program.     History told people the most likely outcome was a coach from a lower level.   An actual on court blue blood program swung and missed on their other sitting power 5 coaches and had to hire a coach that just made the jump to the Big 12 but was a mid major coach his whole time before that without a tourney win.    If it’s McCollum then let’s ride 

[go iu bb]

12 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Meaning Drake will take a step back next year if he remained coach 

I don't know, hence my question about how long it takes to get players ready to play in the system. I'm not passing a judgement, I'm asking a question because I don't know the answer.

Looking at Drake and saying not long doesn't prove it one way or another. Looking at their roster, they have a bunch of seniors. It might not take long since good coaches tend to be good teachers, after all, or it might take a year or two.

Probably no one on this board knows the answer, which is fine. Why would anyone here have paid too much attention to him at the D2 level?

[Alistair Smash]

10 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I'd give Cig another season before you crown him.  We played 2 good teams all season and got torched both times.  He was also able to bring a bunch of his JM guys with him.  Just reminds me of Tom Allen's covid year where we didn't beat a single team that finished in the top 25 and he got a near $40M buyout for it then the wheels came off.  Many of us called it at the time.  Expect a lot of 7-5 finishes from Cig which is certainly fine.

Comparing Cignetti and the Hoosiers last year to Tom Allen’s COVID year is incredibly misplaced. 

[iu eyedoc]

 

I know this is BTB, but I am still surprised about the level of freak out over a tweet stating something we already knew.

[RaceToTheTop]

Seems like everyday we hire another coach.  How many is that and who will it be tomorrow?

[Demo]

22 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Goodman also believes McCollum will need offensive and defensive coordinators.  If that’s truly the case, he’s woefully under qualified.

That being said, I believe BM will be the pick.  

So…..Assistant Coaches?  Yeah, that is concerning. 
Seriously, and I didn’t hear it so I’m leery of context here, if Goodman suggested that McCollum has an X’s and O’s problem that may be the single stupidest thing anyone has said so far. In fact, no maybe, it is. Now, if he said he’d need an experienced recruiting coordinator, that I’d agree with. 

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

What? I’m not upset at what you’re saying. It just isn’t believable, unless one of two things is true. And for the second time, to paraphrase myself since you again ignored what I said.
 

Either Scott Dolson is maybe the dumbest person on earth for allowing someone like Stevens who is in an infinitely more cushy job have five weeks to think it over (or longer since we have been squarely on the bubble the entire time). Or Brad Stevens is being begged to take a job for 70 million dollars and can’t quite make up his mind like he’s getting dressed for prom. It’s absurd on its face on both accounts.

The most logical explanation is there was possibly an initial agreement. Hence, tons of smoke, which cleared out within a week when he probably told Dolson no. Since, it’s been played close to the vest. It doesn’t have to be more complicated than that. Or, which I’ve said twice now, the agreement is still in place, which I personally think is unlikely, but still possible. 

I understand what you’re trying to say but that’s not it. I still have several friends who can’t talk to me about the hiring process. If it was McCollum for the last week they would have been saying it. Jerry would be here posting. 

[IU05]

3 minutes ago, BehindTheBench said:

If Zach confirms it, it’s game over. Keep this thread going and we can debate again in 3 years 

Osterman?? I’m too new here to tell if ppl are joking…

[HoosierInParadise]

The donors are only willing to pony up the big dollars for the one guy they know IU can't get.

Not necessarily true...if you're not going to believe Chris007's info that he could be coming, then his info can't be used as an example as to why paying someone else won't happen.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said:

 

I know this is BTB, but I am still surprised about the level of freak out over a tweet stating something we already knew.

I think I’ve had more fun getting everyone fired up than the tweet itself.