Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[BA47591]

14 hours ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

I'm going to preface what I'm going to say with this. Leal(or anyone else) should get a sixth year unless they were injured unless they played 10 or less games.
I watched almost every game this past season. IMO, regardless what Leal and Goode said on Social Media or Senior Night speeches, they were the only ones who tried and played hard almost every game. At the very least a lot more than the rest of the team.

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I think Leal and Goode were defending their coach and team. Nothing wrong with that. If the culture of the team hadn't worn the majority of us out, topped off by making so little of the talent, that Leal and Goode are at a post game presser....

The fact that DD is interested in both coming back isn't a great look. Neither entered the portal and both requesting waivers, Leal just recently. This roster smh

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

I think Leal and Goode were defending their coach and team. Nothing wrong with that. If the culture of the team hadn't worn the majority of us out, topped off by making so little of the talent, that Leal and Goode are at a post game presser....

The fact that DD is interested in both coming back isn't a great look. Neither entered the portal and both requesting waivers, Leal just recently. This roster smh

Eh not really. You could survive off the current roster alone if you had too. With keeping these two, you're essentially bringing back two B10 players with a wealth of experience. Goode is a very good volume shooter and Leal is a much better defender than people want to give credit for. Both are fairly low ceiling players but each have a pretty established floor, can't say the same for the majority of the roster which is pretty devoid of P5 experience. If Goode and Leal are your 8th and 9th guys, you're probably alright. 

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, DChoosier said:

That is crazy. No offense to Leal but you really have to question a ranking that shows IU jumping 10 spots nationally by adding a bench guy.  Makes zero sense.

A couple things likely drive that without knowing much about Torvik s exact formula. 1) Leal started about half the games last year, played 20mpg and has really good advanced metrics on defense and for things like WS.  
 

2) The teams ranked 20-40 are probably all grouped really close together. In other words, you might jump ten spots but statistically you still all group together as teams that will all finish at about the same place

[Muskie plays the four]

6 hours ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Oh, I wouldn't refer to it as 'great' if we are ranked near 20 at year's end.  I would be pleasantly surprised....pleased, yes. It is CDD's first year here.  And the team as a team has a long way to go.  It will take some getting over some bumps (not humps)...and taking some lumps.  

Great would be in the Sweet 16 with a good showing there.  Great would include the team playing their hearts out routinely.  Great would be CDD showing his mettle and BB IQ.  Great would be the guards playing like they belonged in the competition for the top of the B1G.

Great would-be recruiting improvements for 2026 being experienced during the basketball season. ..and really building something towards another banner.

(Great would be a serious upgrade in referees and fairly calling games consistently home and away and in the first half and second half.  But I dream.  Never mind.)

I understand why some would say it is great.  Things are relative.  

To me, great is competing with the best routinely, and bringing it all home once in a while.

I am not going to accept all of the hype.  But I am intrigued.  And I will cheer the team.

My expectations are a little lower than others on this site.  I hate to admit that.  I usually am a positive...cup is half-full of BS..kind of guy.  I just do not think that we will get even a sight of that rabbit on the first try this season.   

DRock has a pack of beagles and the race is on. Tally  ho 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, BA47591 said:

I think Leal and Goode were defending their coach and team. Nothing wrong with that. If the culture of the team hadn't worn the majority of us out, topped off by making so little of the talent, that Leal and Goode are at a post game presser....

The fact that DD is interested in both coming back isn't a great look. Neither entered the portal and both requesting waivers, Leal just recently. This roster smh

I would prefer a player defending a bad coach to the press than one calling them out.  Issues should be handled behind closed doors.

[hoosierbannerd]

14 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I would prefer a player defending a bad coach to the press than one calling them out.  Issues should be handled behind closed doors.

plus it would be dumb on a kid's part to publicly call out a coach and gain a toxic label trying for that next NIL payday...

[ebridges24]

2 hours ago, Muskie plays the four said:

DRock has a pack of beagles and the race is on. Tally  ho 

Beagles are great dogs, except they like to bark a lot. Sorry, my mind was running. And I couldn't catch it.

[Hoosierfan2017]

3 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I would prefer a player defending a bad coach to the press than one calling them out.  Issues should be handled behind closed doors.

I’d rather have players who don’t get blown out by 25 points at home and then throw shots at the fanbase during the postgame presser/get into spats with IU media personalities on Twitter. The program’s culture desperately needs a 180 and I really don’t think Leal/Goode are the guys who will contribute to that. 

[madmax]

I want absolutely nothing to do with Anthony Leal for next season. He is a player in theory who I should love - hometown kid, plays hard defense, stayed loyal to the program….. but I’m sorry it just never clicked for me. All his loyalty, etc. always felt performative to me. Always said the right things and yet we had some pretty underwhelming seasons with him as one of our main leaders. Not that my opinion matters, but I’d rather bring Dallas James back quite honestly.

[skhoosier2]

15 hours ago, ebridges24 said:

Beagles are great dogs, except they like to bark a lot. Sorry, my mind was running. And I couldn't catch it.

I've had two Beagles that barely bark.  Our first beagle took a year to bark.  The other is more of a whiner.  LOL outliers...shows its possible...

[CSP]

wanting Dallas James over Indiana Mr ball, Bloomington Native, and someone who's an elite perimeter defender...... I've absolutely heard it all.

[Home Jersey]

9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

wanting Dallas James over Indiana Mr ball, Bloomington Native, and someone who's an elite perimeter defender...... I've absolutely heard it all.

I’m far from a Leal fan and don’t really want him on the team next year at all but saying they’d prefer Dallas James to him is a pretty transparently unserious take, lol

[RaceToTheTop]

11 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

wanting Dallas James over Indiana Mr ball, Bloomington Native, and someone who's an elite perimeter defender...... I've absolutely heard it all.

I certainly wouldn't call Leal 'an elite perimeter defender'.

But yeah, wanting Dallas James over him is just ludicrous.  

[dwtaylor1055]

Wanting Dallas James in general is a hard no.  Kid was not serious a majority of the time on the bench.  what am I kidding all the time on the bench

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

24 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I certainly wouldn't call Leal 'an elite perimeter defender'.

But yeah, wanting Dallas James over him is just ludicrous.  

Leal was the best defender in the Big Ten.

[CSP]

31 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I certainly wouldn't call Leal 'an elite perimeter defender'.

But yeah, wanting Dallas James over him is just ludicrous.  

I would. He proved that. 

[tyappleg]

48 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I’m far from a Leal fan and don’t really want him on the team next year at all but saying they’d prefer Dallas James to him is a pretty transparently unserious take, lol

There's a word you are looking for, but you said I wasn't allowed to say it anymore. 

[Dillion]

Wanting Dallas James over him is crazy but Leal is not an “elite” defender. Leal plays his a** off and is smart but very limited. Serious question for the die hard leal truthers….if he were to hit the portal today what type of school or schools do you think would be interested and would he see the floor? I personally believe it would be like a butler type level and I don’t think his numbers would be much better than they were here. If leal wasn’t a hometown kid and Indiana me basketball he wouldn’t even be considered. Post his stats and what he’s done over the years, don’t put a face or name to them, and let’s act like he just committed to IU. This place would be ready to fire devries tomorrow or question why and how he helps.


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[Hoosierfanyuh]

I’m assuming OP was kidding about Dallas James but he’s actually awful at basketball if you’ve ever actually watched him play haha i think he got in the exhibition games and it was really bad 

[CSP]

22 minutes ago, Dillion said:

Wanting Dallas James over him is crazy but Leal is not an “elite” defender. Leal plays his a** off and is smart but very limited. Serious question for the die hard leal truthers….if he were to hit the portal today what type of school or schools do you think would be interested and would he see the floor? I personally believe it would be like a butler type level and I don’t think his numbers would be much better than they were here. If leal wasn’t a hometown kid and Indiana me basketball he wouldn’t even be considered. Post his stats and what he’s done over the years, don’t put a face or name to them, and let’s act like he just committed to IU. This place would be ready to fire devries tomorrow or question why and how he helps.


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Where are these "die hard Leal truthers" other than the Chicken Sammy? 

idc about his numbers, there is so much more to a basketball game than the box score. 

But, I'm always down for an ELITE defender in our 11th-13th spots. Limited? Offensively? yeah I can see that, but other than shooting a basketball, Leal is a better player in every aspect of the game than Goode, as an example.