Xavier Arrested...

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I don't care what those programs do because IU should have higher standards than those programs do.

Your “high standards” are unrealistic and would lead to a team/coach that no star players would want to play for. Young men are going to make mistakes. If it’s a serious enough mistake, sure, show them the door. Certainly. This isn’t that. If we used your standards, Yogi would’ve been dismissed from the team when he tried getting into Kilroys with a fake ID during Little 5. 

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

You’re an idiot

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[HoosierInParadise]

It depends what comes out of this situation but this will be his second problem in a year.

I understand that. I would just rather see the mentality that we should continue to develop the person instead of dumping him because our program is "too high of moral ground" to keep someone...even if they continue to make mistakes.

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[ceast11]

3 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

I understand that. I would just rather see the mentality that we should continue to develop the person instead of dumping him because our program is "too high of moral ground" to keep someone...even if they continue to make mistakes.

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I think you show young men grace and try to mold them. But at what point do you decide they “aren’t getting it”? 

I don’t know for sure this is the case with X. Only Woody does. The optics aren’t good. And unfortunately with social media, everything is magnified like never before. 

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

No idea what the incident report will say, but let me add this info to the knowledge-set:

”Resisting With Violence” is a relatively serious charge.

”Resisting Without Violence” can be complete and utter bullsh!t, and at times can consist of someone telling the officer that it was bullsh!t that the stop was made. 

I don’t know the facts yet and haven read through the thread but you’re absolutely right and there’s no reason to call for throwing a player off a team without even knowing what actually happened, no word of alcohol or drugs, no assault on an officer charge, cops throw out charges like candy, wait until the actual facts are in bf knee jerk kicking a player to the curb

[HoosierInParadise]

I think you show young men grace and try to mold them. But at what point do you decide they “aren’t getting it”? 

I don’t know for sure this is the case with X. Only Woody does. The optics aren’t good. And unfortunately with social media, everything is magnified like never before. 

I think you support and grow your teammates, co-workers, subordinates, etc. until they give large enough reason to where you can't. It's scary that some react as though this is a no-brainer with respect to getting rid of him. I'm not saying that turning a blind eye is what should be done....but geez, people need to show a little perspective.

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[HoosierTrav]

22 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I don't care what those programs do because IU should have higher standards than those programs do.

My goodness… your moral superiority complex is insufferable. If we kick X off the team for this then we deserve to suck for decades more. 

[eddy4iu]

44 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I don't believe this but someone on the other site said they heard he was going 140 in a 55.

Curious why you bothered to post this if you don't believe it?  What is your purpose?

[iu eyedoc]

35 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

It is sad to this old IU fan that I see our fan base cares more about winning  than the integrity of the program.  It is just all about winning and not caring about who represents this program.

So true. It will get very hard to root for this program if it is filled with speeders, hippie weed smokers, jaywalkers, and sex crazed underage drinkers.They should be more a reflection of the wholesome student body of IU.

[Alford Bailey]

Doesn’t really matter what we think of the offense. If you’ve watched IU athletics in the last ten years then you know he’s gone.

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Doesn’t really matter what we think of the offense. If you’ve watched IU athletics in the last ten years then you know he’s gone.

I would disagree….we’ve seen inconsistencies on that.

[iu eyedoc]

I knew enough about the players from my time their in the late 80's early 90's to know the difference isn't in the players, but more the program and leadership doesn't carry the same gravitas to make the local cops treat these minor infractions more discretely. BK would have known about this situation but the public never would have.

 

 

[RaceToTheTop]

Fox59 has said it was resisteing law enforcement using a vehicle so I assume he was trying to evade in his car while he was trying to be pulled over.

[Honkyman]

I guarantee the resisting arrest charge will be dropped. And, if there is no objective proof of the speeding, i.e., radar, that could be dropped, too. In any event, Xavier will not be dismissed from the program for speeding even with the curfew violation from last season. It would not surprise me if Xavier disputed the speeding charge prompting the arresting officer to slap him with excessive speeding and resisting arrest. Sadly, this kind of thing happens too often. It happened to me and I'm a lawyer. Of course, I got the whole thing dismissed and a letter of apology probably because they feared I would sue them for false arrest. Woodson is no stranger to player misbehavior given the marijuana issue  when he was on the team. Knight dismissed only those who lied to him allowing the rest of potheads to remain on the team.

[RaceToTheTop]

The strike against X at Northwestern doesn’t help.  Could also not help that might not have been a first strike, just the first punished publicly.

[FightFor6]

Non-event based on the details WISH-TV just shared. Discipline in practice, give him a 1-2 game suspension, and move on.

All the ivory tower grandstanding is how you stay 9th-10th in the B10 every year. You're all lucky social media wasn't around 40 years ago.

[Dalton26]

Make him run some extra sprints and move on. 

[Honkyman]

2 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

Make him run some extra sprints and move on

Plus make him shoot 3-point shots and free throws for an extra couple of hours.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Make better decisions. It’s pretty simple.  And at least learn from mistakes. The feeling of Driving away from a police officer is common, actually trying to do it,  isnt too smart.  
 

But much can be learned from said events.  And if his mind and heart is in the right places we should nurture the learning and the betterment of his person. 

Edited April 3, 2022 by WayneFleekHoosier

[HoosierHoopster]

Those charges will get worked out. The felony charge (probably class c) is over the top. This isn’t something you dismiss a kid over, discipline and teaching (which is what a college is actually supposed to do) is what should happen