Mike Woodson to be next IUBB coach. Thad Matta to be associate AD

[Trish 11,633]

1 minute ago, DWB said:

Not sure you even had a vote...

Uh sir, I have an IU degree. That’s all it takes these days. 
 

;)

[HoosierTrav 7,898]

15 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Mike Woodson and Scott Dolson will speak at a Zoom press conference at 10 a.m. tomorrow, per release.

Sales meeting is officially cancelled! It’s Woody Time bitchessssss!

[PB1230 502]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I did not read through all of the pages but probably got mainly your negative post which is your right to be negative.  He was not my fist choice but after Stevens, Beilein or Matta I was not really thrilled with anyone else out there.  I was never sold on Oats or Muslleman because they seem to much of a flash in the pan and haven't proven that much.  I also don't think those two were going to leave anyway so that is a mute point.  There must be something up with Beard because Goodman said that UCLA and now IU has not reached out to him about their openings.

I have seen IU go outside the IU family for 21 years and get some top candidates but it has not worked.  My thinking it was time to go this route to see if an IU guy can get us back because they know what it takes to win at IU and what the fan base is like.

I have been a fan for 50 years and I will be one until god calls me home so I will back Woodson as our next coach.  I just hope everyone will go in with an open mind and give him a chance.  I know some will say they are through with IU basketball and that is your right to do that but I will only say one thing see ya.  also if anyone wants to give their season tickets away I will take them.  Sports are for entertainment and think some take it way to seriously if they get this upset over who is hired at IU.  I spent a great day celebrating my first grand child's first birthday so everything in my world is great.

I think most fans wanted Oats/Musselman more as a flex about stealing another power conference coach rather a real preference based on coaching ability

[Rico 3,091]

3 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

Sales meeting is officially cancelled! It’s Woody Time bitchessssss!

[iubb 2,558]

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[94Hoosier 56]

4 minutes ago, PB1230 said:

I think most fans wanted Oats/Musselman more as a flex about stealing another power conference coach rather a real preference based on coaching ability

I would agree with this.  I think it was a way of showing we still mattered to many...

[Trish 11,633]

Just now, 94Hoosier said:

I would agree with this.  I think it was a way of showing we still mattered to many...

Well if it makes anyone feel better, everyone on our lists turned us down! 
 

 

[cthomas 6,511]

8 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I spent a great day celebrating my first grand child's first birthday so everything in my world is great.

Nothing is better than that. I have 8 grandkids ranging from 4 to 24. We celebrate every birthday. IU basketball is fun, the grandkids are an experience like no other. Can't imagine life without them.

[Hoosierinbham 178]

1 hour ago, TheDarkKnight69 said:

I don’t think there’s any doubt that Trayce will at least test the nba waters without signing an agent. 

For sure. But how nice to have your new head coach be able to guide you and give objective, highly experienced feedback on the NBA.  What a great opportunity to build trust with TJD and the other players.

[Demo 20,374]

12 minutes ago, JJacks said:

Agree with 1 & 2.  

In regards to #3 it appears to me that EVERY NBA coach backs off when a player pushes back.  The coaches that don't (outside of maybe a few) get seen the door before the star player does. 

With #4 I think the pro game is ahead of where the college game is.  It seems like  most colleges are trying to mimic the style of play in the NBA.  I see this as a positive.  If you're referring to style of play and not other aspects of the college basketball. 

I don’t think it’s a matter of backing off. They’re just different relationships. NBA coach/player relationships are more fraternal and in college they’re more paternal. You don’t talk to 30 year old millionaires like you talk to 20 year college students. 
On your last point, yeah, the NBA is miles ahead of college in scheme diversity. I fully expect Woodson to walk into the B1G as a top 3 guy in terms of X’s and O’s.

[Bowhunter 2,694]

Every time we hire the wrong guy, our program falls further and further. I hope I’m wrong about this hire, and Coach Woodson knocks it out of the park. We definitely need an identity. I am hopeful an Indiana guy will be the answer this time. However, I still would have asked Oats, Musselman, Beard and Belein before Woodson. I’m nervous because I was right about Tom Crean and Archie Miller, and I didn’t like Sampson or Davis. Fingers crossed!

 

 

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[Papacap 475]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Well if it makes anyone feel better, everyone on our lists turned us down! 
 

 

We had a list of two. Stevens said, “Scott, I’d love to coach IU. But we all know Woody is the guy”.

At least, it could have happened that way........

Edited March 29, 2021 by Papacap

[IU Scott 2,375]

Just now, cthomas said:

Nothing is better than that. I have 8 grandkids ranging from 4 to 24. We celebrate every birthday. IU basketball is fun, the grandkids are an experience like no other. Can't imagine life without them.

I was told being a grand parent is so different than being a dad and they are right.  She has my heart and love her so much

[IU Prof 886]

8 minutes ago, PB1230 said:

I think most fans wanted Oats/Musselman more as a flex about stealing another power conference coach rather a real preference based on coaching ability

No, Oats is the truth. He's going to win at least one national title, maybe more. 

[Golfman25 5,622]

4 hours ago, Bowhunter said:

You guys tell me Woodson is better than waiting on Musselman, Oats, or taking Beard if possible


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None of those guys where coming.  Your college options where Moser or Enfield.  

[IU Scott 2,375]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

None of those guys where coming.  Your college options where Moser or Enfield.  

Wouldn't want either one

[AKHoosier 6,999]

1 hour ago, Elstrick0908 said:

IU fans are the worst. This choice has so much upside, and nearly zero downside. After all, we can’t get any worse than we have been! We speak out of the both sides of our mouths: “need someone that can run today’s style of bball”, but not that well-respected NBA GUY! Need a former IU guy, but not THAT IU guy! We are truly insufferable. That said, I’m excited for this hire. I think this is a very positive thing for IUBB, and cannot wait until next season!

Nearly zero downside?  Geez...

How about we never do better a 65% winning percentage (which is what he's shown his ceiling is), and only make the tournament every other year.

He fails to connect with high school kids and doesn't recruit well, because let's face it, a lot of people don't even know who he is and he's never recruited before.  Like it or not, kids want to be recruited by the head coach, not just the assitants.

He also tarnishes the positive legacy he has here, gets fired after 5 or 6 subpar years, and we're right back in this same place hoping for Brad Stevens again.

[IUrocker 2,203]

[PB1230 502]

Just to put coaching hires into perspective, I did a quick analysis of probably the best major conference hires over the last 25 years (essentially what does a eventually successful hire look like initially). I found 11 guys that have had consistent success and at least 1 final 4 appearance. Of those, only 3 left a major conference job, one of which was Tony Bennett who likely wasn’t going to find consistent success at Wash St. At the end of the day, successful power conference coaches rarely leave their job and/or the transition doesn’t end up being successful. Most its about getting lucky and/or finding the right fit

Roy Williams – great resume and was leaving a team just coming off of back to back final 4s. UNC is a elite draw, but Williams past connections to UNC are probably the only way he leaves Kansas

Bill Self – At Illinois 3 years, with an elite 8 and sweet 16 appearance. Leaves to take over an elite program that is performing at a high level – no rebuild needed.

Izzo – Long time assistant with no head coaching experience

Pitino – great resume, but technically unemployed when hired by Louisville after resigning from NBA job

Calipari – long head coaching resume, including unsuccessful NBA stint, leaving a very good spot for him (Memphis), although not a power conference team

Billy Donovan – left Marshall

Jay Wright – left Hofstra

Tony Bennett – left Wash St after 3 seasons, but was probably maxing out with one sweet 16 appearance

Thad Matta – left Butler

Chris Beard – left Little Rock

Bo Ryan – left Milwaukee

Edited March 29, 2021 by PB1230

[AZ Hoosier 7,417]

17 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I spent a great day celebrating my first grand child's first birthday so everything in my world is great.

Congrats... as a 17 time veteran, I can tell you there is something incredible about grandkids... family makes everything in life better.