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[jimsorgi 1,134]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Probably not a lot maybe however someone like me who has watched them a lot could name every starter from the Elite 8 team.   That team was loaded.   Ryan Kalkbrenner, Trey Alexander, Arthur Kaluma, Ryan nembhard, and Baylor Shierirman.  Lost by 1 in the Elite 8 and Kaluma and nembhard decide to enter the transfer portal.   They could have ran an elite 8 team back and those kids left for more money.  Mason miller was on that team as well who McDermott beat out Miller for his commitment.   He can coach.   Only thing is his name gets brought up every year as someone who could move on from Creighton but never does 

Kalkbrenner has been on that team forever. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,758]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

hold on now.... the last 10 years have had completely different competition for Creighton than every other previous season

[go iu bb 9,519]

29 minutes ago, Motley's said:

There's a belief among some in the donor community that this season would have turned out differently if Malik hadn't been injured. They've made a big investment in a core group of players (Rice, Carlyle, Malik & Mgbako). 

They'd like to see that group return to maintain continuity and not have a total rebuild. 

You know, they're probably right in that it would have turned out differently but probably not correct in the way they think. It probably would have turned out worse and IU would have no shot at the tournament at this point. That injury forced Woodson to go away from the 2 big lineup which he then continued when he saw it actually worked better.

[8bucks 7,542]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

Can you expand that to sweet 16's, FF's, Rankings, that would help differentiate from being a mid-major to being more of a P5 school now

[Unexpectedflash 1,716]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

Well he's the only one in the big east out of those coaches

[Hoosierfan1901 8,296]

1 minute ago, HoosierSadaseci said:

Don't know that Stevens doesn't want be here...

I’m just being realistic, I definitely want him, but it feels like a prayer. I also read something that their potential sale won’t be finalized until 2028. 

[moyemayhem 1,747]

2 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

There is a BIG difference between winning in the Missouri Valley Conference and winning in the Big East.  Comparing McDermott’s success to the others is apples and oranges.

[Silat Player 1,951]

19 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

LOL... reminds me of Blackmon, who could not guard a chair, according to DD

Could you imagine those two being on the court at the same time? LOL

[DSUMMITT 449]

7 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

There's is no way Collins would put up with Mgbako. I'm disappointed that we do. 

Where does the blame lie? Has anyone really tried anything but the hands off let him 'learn on the court' buddy 'grandpa' motivation?  The talent is there - plus the sheer physical gifts - I'd love someone to get through to that young man.

[jimsorgi 1,134]

6 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Can you expand that to sweet 16's, FF's, Rankings, that would help differentiate from being a mid-major to being more of a P5 school now

Creighton has been to six Sweet Sixteens. 3 in the 1960s/1970s... then none from 1974 until McDermott made it in 2021, 2023, and 2024. 

Creighton made the second round three times prior to McDermott (in the 64+ team era) - 1991, 1999, and 2002. McDermott has made it 7 times in the last 12 years (edit: adjusting for covid year). 

I think he's a really solid coach. My biggest hesitation is they have had a few clunker seasons in there at Creighton, too. I like consistency... 

[LamarCheeks 22,106]

13 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

All the negativity on this board SUCKS. 

Folks, I got news for ya: Arthur Schabinger is not walking through that door. Red McManus is not walking through that door. Tom Apke is not walking through that door. 

The sooner you realize that, the better this program -- and this board -- will be. 

The only thing that's gonna turn this around is being upbeat and positive. 

[tyappleg 8,049]

46 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Thats true. But, what happened at Iowa State? McDermott was 59-68 there. If anything, I would worry about that...

I guess you can worry about that. But we're almost 20 years removed from that with a large sample size saying he knows how to coach at the P5 level.  He wouldn't be my top choice, but we could do much much worse.

[Uspshoosier 54,362]

1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

Can you expand that to sweet 16's, FF's, Rankings, that would help differentiate from being a mid-major to being more of a P5 school now

Sweet 16 1962, 1964, 1974. All in a mid major conference before McDermott 

With McDermott in a top 4 conference 

Sweet 16 

2021, 2023, 2024.   Half of the schools total number and all in the last 5 years of him coaching 

Elite 8 

1941- 

2023 

half the schools elite 8 appearances and first since 1941(ncaa tourney started in 1939)

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,758]

1 minute ago, DSUMMITT said:

Where does the blame lie? Has anyone really tried anything but the hands off let him 'learn on the court' buddy 'grandpa' motivation?  The talent is there - plus the sheer physical gifts - I'd love someone to get through to that young man.

why doesn't he hustle in the mean time or ever create for a teammate? my last post on MM, who I think is the most selfish player I've seen in an IU uniform. 

[Unexpectedflash 1,716]

Feel like Mcdermott would be a hire similar to pope or kelsey last year. Louisville and Kentucky both struck out on their top options but ended up with lesser known coaches that know their stuff and are having a lot of success this year. I really do think we could do a lot worse than Mcdermott but maybe I'm biased because I live in Omaha. 

[RaceToTheTop 31,041]

12 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

For the record:  no one has a higher career winning percentage at Creighton in the last 90 years than McDermott does.  And he's done it in the Big East instead of MVC.

Dana Altman is a decent coach.  He won less in the MVC than McDermott has in the Big East.

[DSUMMITT 449]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But the donors lost the right to decide this when they decided Woodson was the guy to coach these guys. Even though everyone told them he couldn't coach

Absolutely - I'm just saying IF those 4 stuck around (plus Goode) - I wouldn't be mad. With the right coach I'd love to see them all grow - I don't blame any of them for this year. Immaturity and focus can be tempered by the right structure and coach imho.

I would say CW stubbornness in his system and his lack of 'coaching' college kids have done his talent little good.

Edited March 5 by DSUMMITT

[Chris007 62,403]

4 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

All the negativity on this board SUCKS. 

Folks, I got news for ya. Arthur Schabinger is not walking through that door. Red McManus is not walking through that door. Tom Apke is not walking through that door. 

The sooner you realize that, the better this program -- and this board -- will be. 

The only thing that's gonna turn this around is being upbeat and positive. 

I really like Art, he just hangs around

[Unexpectedflash 1,716]

Maybe this is wrong but Goode is really the only player I want back from this team. I want a new coach and a fresh start from the Woody era 

[Silat Player 1,951]

3 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

I guess you can worry about that. But we're almost 20 years removed from that with a large sample size saying he knows how to coach at the P5 level.  He wouldn't be my top choice, but we could do much much worse.

I can absolutely agree with that. I wouldn't hate a McDermott hire. He's a solid coach.

I just feel like if you're going to hire a 60 year old coach, he'd better be a guy who can get you a title soon. He isn't going to develop anymore. He's a completely finished product.

And no more "bridge" talk. Such a stupid and unnecessary idea, especially in the age of NIL and the transfer portal.