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3 minutes ago, Demo said:

True. And Sampson, Scheyer and Hurley all have 4 man classes coming in. You develop a roster building philosophy and you adhere to it. Personally, I think coaches who eschew recruiting high school kids are gonna struggle to develop a sustainable culture. 

Pitino said this cycle they wouldn’t recruit high school kids because they have to replace too much production from what they are losing and high school kids can’t replace them.    He will recruit high school kids in the future just not next year.   Most great coaches will use a combination of both 

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5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Adam Howard just Retweeted McNeese winning the conference. “Good things happen to good people”.

 

Move Will Wade up the candidate list. Lol

 

 

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I don’t think Wade is a serious candidate. 

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If IU hires Cronin you will get the same coach that was at Cincinnati and UCLA, eventually he’ll string together a couple of lousy seasons and the fans will demand his bald head….6 more years of mediocrity and the IU program puts even more time between the years we were elite and what we have become. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Never been a HC before. Huge risk IMO. I’d hate that kind of hire. 

He’s the associate head coach at Duke.

He’s a risk for sure, but his experience and exposure to the highest levels of college hoops is extraordinarily higher than a guy that has built a great program in D2.

 

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4 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Drake went 28-7 last year and 27-8 the year before. It’s not like he stepped into a wasteland of a program. He’s in his first year in D1. How many top 25 teams has he even played at this point? Isn’t his team also the slowest paced team in the entire country? Cronin has won 69% of his games overall as well as 69% of his conference games at UCLA. He’s been to the sweet 16 or better 3 of the last 4 years. Even if McCollum doesn’t flop at the P5 level, what are the odds he delivers better results than that? He’s an absolutely huge risk that IU shouldn’t have to take. 

Cronin only has one sweet 16 in his other 20+ years.  The 4th of those 4 years he finished almost outside of the top 100 Kenpom.  I feel like people are taking crazy pills given out by some leprechaun to hire one of their own. 

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

He’s the associate head coach at Duke.

He’s a risk for sure, but his experience and exposure to the highest levels of college hoops is extraordinarily higher than a guy that has built a great program in D2.

 

For sure better equipped for the off the court stuff, which is important. That said, “Associate Head Coach” ain’t the real Head Coach. Very different thing to be actually in the driver’s seat IMO. Interested to see how it works out for them, I liked him as a player 

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Recruiting high school guys to build your program entails risk. Are the recruits going to live up to the hype?

Building your program via the portal entails risk. Will the guys mesh into a team? This year’s roster a good example of highly regarded players who don’t fit as a team.

No one answer. I want a coach who can recruit for the future but who also can evaluate guys in the portal who fit and fill the void where we need help.

If BS can do this, would be ecstatic. Would view this as a priority for anyone else to be considered. 

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

For sure better equipped for the off the court stuff, which is important. That said, “Associate Head Coach” ain’t the real Head Coach. Very different thing to be actually in the driver’s seat IMO. Interested to see how it works out for them, I liked him as a player 

That’s why he’s a risk. But he’s learned from the best of the best at the top of the top for 15 years. He’s a dude. And he’s a dude at Duke, not at some school that would be a five point neutral court underdog to the current IU trainwreck.

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46 minutes ago, str8baller said:

The unearned arrogance is a problem, that I agree with you there. Mostly with our decision makers. 
 

But, if you look at the per capita numbers Indiana puts out a ton of pro level players. I think we’re like 2nd in the country. That’s a solid proxy for talent. You have to get players somewhere. The backyard is the starting point. 
 

Again, this job is hard. The HS coaches, as an institution, can be a giant PIA. They can also deliver National Championship talent. Ditto the AAU coaches. Same with our alumni…they all think they’re basketball geniuses (the irony of my dumasz typing this is not lost on me…lol) where the big dogs need to be placated often. But they can also deliver national leading NIL funds. Lots of upside but a hard  job. I think watching a local kid win a title at UConn or god forbid Purdue while we pay tons for a pac 2 transplant loses you a ton of political capital.

Can you show me what National Championship talent you're talking about?  I can think of Kyle Guy, and that was one guy damn near a decade ago.  Maybe I'm missing on all the National Championship talent from Indiana you're talking about?

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1 hour ago, Josh said:

I respect you a lot as a poster.  A ton.

But this take is why we suck as a program.  Indiana has great recruits and coaches.  But not more than many other places in America.  Lately even, globally.  Thinking that we have some sort of superiority over other areas is why we hired Woodson and worship our high school system.  How's that worked for us?

To be successful you have to dominate your state first.  Then your region.  Then national.  If the state has one of the best HS players in the country he should be a lock for IU.  Then you work out from there.  

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