General Coach Candidate News

[8bucks]

1 hour ago, Hardwood83 said:

Since you asked :) 

Agree on your "no chance" list. So moving on...

Beilein & Matta seem the most likely- need to be vetted for ability and drive. I say proceed with extreme caution, but proceed. Any red flags should eliminate them, IU can't afford to find out Beliein has lost the fire in his belly 2 years down the road or have Matta tapping out because of his back after a couple of seasons. Either would be devastating.

I have stated before that I can't imagine why Drew would want to move, BUT fine with kicking the tires. Still he isn't a magician. Took a good while to get things rolling in Waco. IU should be a faster turn-around but not sure it's fair to expect a dramatic turn. 

Similar feel on Beard & Mack. Sadly, IU doesn't offer much over current jobs without a lot of grunt work first to return the shine. 

Oats is the most interesting to me for personal reasons and that he is young and has some results to evaluate. Seems like a winner on the trajectory for big things.

 

 

I feel pretty good in saying that Drew would take over a tremendously more healthy team here than he did in Waco.  

[hper50]

17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think I can name 6 guys on that list that have less than 5% chance of becoming the next IU coach. At least two of them are IU guys

Oh, I know. I was between work calls and rattled off 16 names as quickly as I could!

[Deserthoozier]

2 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I feel pretty good in saying that Drew would take over a tremendously more healthy team here than he did in Waco.  

Pretty high bar there! I mean no one’s murdered anyone on their way out. ; )

[hper50]

19 minutes ago, IUCane said:

Means it will be Musselman since he isn't listed :)

Spaced it! I like Musselman. It was a joke anyway, but I just threw on 16 names as quickly as possible haha

[Chris007]

Just now, hper50 said:

Spaced it! I like Musselman. It was a joke anyway, but I just threw on 16 names as quickly as possible haha

If we didn't like you we wouldn't give you a hard time. Wait till we stop responding altogether 

[Hoosierfan2017]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm starting to like the Musselman candidacy 

Musselman is interesting to me. Long-time NBA guy. Six years as a head coach in college and he’s won his conference three times. Collegiate winning percentage of 74.6%. Guess the one bad thing is only one sweet 16 appearance, but that’s only in 5 seasons (with Covid canceling the tournament in one of them). He did win the CBI in 2016, which, well, is the CBI, but winning an end of the year tournament is still something.

He’s not at the top of my list. There’s a category of guys I’d like us to go for before getting to him. But if we strike out on those guys, Musselman is a hire I wouldn’t hate. 

[8bucks]

2 minutes ago, Deserthoozier said:

Pretty high bar there! I mean no one’s murdered anyone on their way out. ; )

Agree. That teammates killing teammates really has an impact on team chemistry and building a healthy culture. 
 

[Magisterium]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Which may be soon. He's 67 and looks like he's ... ahem... lived to the fullest.

my man Huggy Bear is now sportin' a sweet goatee....

[Magisterium]

so here's the "skunk at garden party" take:

Allen given raise by Dolson means, in addition to rewarding CTA for his good work, Miller is being retained for Year 5 (thereby saving $7 mil, even though donors are now willing to pay it anyway)

 

here's the "optimist's" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson has a promising, maybe even elite, replacement in mind who is 1) interested but 2) unavailable, for whatever reason, until 2022

 

here's the "2nd skunk at garden party" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson can afford the Allen raise because he's 1) pulling the plug on AM but 2) going with a cheaper replacement

[TheWatShot]

2 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

so here's the "skunk at garden party" take:

Allen given raise by Dolson means, in addition to rewarding CTA for his good work, Miller is being retained for Year 5 (thereby saving $7 mil, even though donors are now willing to pay it anyway)

 

here's the "optimist's" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson has a promising, maybe even elite, replacement in mind who is 1) interested but 2) unavailable, for whatever reason, until 2022

 

here's the "2nd skunk at garden party" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson can afford the Allen raise because he's 1) pulling the plug on AM but 2) going with a cheaper replacement

Let's hope it's the 2nd take, because as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the 1st take is a fallacy of the highest order. 

[Trish]

5 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

so here's the "skunk at garden party" take:

Allen given raise by Dolson means, in addition to rewarding CTA for his good work, Miller is being retained for Year 5 (thereby saving $7 mil, even though donors are now willing to pay it anyway)

 

here's the "optimist's" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson has a promising, maybe even elite, replacement in mind who is 1) interested but 2) unavailable, for whatever reason, until 2022

 

here's the "2nd skunk at garden party" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson can afford the Allen raise because he's 1) pulling the plug on AM but 2) going with a cheaper replacement

Yeah I’m finding it hard to believe Indiana is paying the football coach $5 million and the basketball coach $6-7 million.

 

Money is falling from the top of Briscoe I suppose! 

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Yeah I’m finding it hard to believe Indiana is paying the football coach $5 million and the basketball coach $6-7 million.

 

Money is falling from the top of Briscoe I suppose! 

A successful football program would basically be the equivalent of money falling from the top of Briscoe. We have so much untapped earning potential there. I don’t know about $7 million, but if we’re paying our football coach $5 million I can’t see us paying our basketball coach less than that. We’re a basketball school. We’ll always be a basketball school. I expect our next coach’s salary to reflect that. We’re not getting a top guy to come here by offering Archie’s salary. 

[Hovadipo]

37 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

so here's the "skunk at garden party" take:

Allen given raise by Dolson means, in addition to rewarding CTA for his good work, Miller is being retained for Year 5 (thereby saving $7 mil, even though donors are now willing to pay it anyway)

 

here's the "optimist's" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson has a promising, maybe even elite, replacement in mind who is 1) interested but 2) unavailable, for whatever reason, until 2022

 

here's the "2nd skunk at garden party" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson can afford the Allen raise because he's 1) pulling the plug on AM but 2) going with a cheaper replacement

Or option 3: the two positions and the money tied to them are in no way related other than the guy who’s signing the paychecks.

[Alford Bailey]

17 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Or option 3: the two positions and the money tied to them are in no way related other than the guy who’s signing the paychecks.

This

[wirenuts]

16 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Or option 3: the two positions and the money tied to them are in no way related other than the guy who’s signing the paychecks.

or the person whose name is on assembly hall is paying the buyout portion in full to move the needle towards a new coach

[Josh]

1 hour ago, wirenuts said:

or the person whose name is on assembly hall is paying the buyout portion in full to move the needle towards a new coach

And the person whose name is on the practice facility is paying the first 4 years of the new coach.  Final Fours pays the rest

[Southside]

18 hours ago, CrimsonV said:

Crean is making 3.2M at Georgia. 

Yup, but nobody will offer AM that IMO. 3.2 is top 20 or 25 pay. 

I was surprised UGA gave Crean that, but I can understand why they did. And Crean's resume is better than AM.

[Chris007]

33 minutes ago, Josh said:

And the person whose name is on the practice facility is paying the first 4 years of the new coach.  Final Fours pays the rest

Also football success the next 3-4 years would pay for the rest.

[HoosierTrav]

9 hours ago, hoosierpap said:

Missed this.

Sure, IU back channels to agents. But for the most part it remains agents- but better believe those agents have a feel for where their client is at. My assumption is it remains that way due to the coaching fraternity and it's kinda unwritten rules.

 

So, yeah, donors aren't going in completely blind- and will sure let their opinion be known as they cut any type of check. 

Thanks for touching on this. I figured it would look something like this. 

[yogisballin]

I want a win at nearly all costs guy. Ya know like a calipari, if you know what I’m saying


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