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[EasyEJay 396]

27 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

That’s fine.  It will come.  It’s first building with the type of kids you want to run that system effectively.  This is something we have lacked for years.  A foundation for the system.  We need that.  Then you sprinkle in the NBA like talent that fits that talent.  

Bet money Trent Sisley dips Mom and Pops didn't send him to Florida his senior year to play for a D2 coach that doesn't believe in shooting 3's and thinks fast breaks are pointless. Don't care how big and IU fan he is. 

And that's all fine and good so you think you and everyone else in the fan base are gonna be ok with 14-17, 16-15, 17-14? Again ORAL ROBERTS just fired their coach after a TWO season. NC STATE just fired their coach a year after a final four run. Rodney Terry at Texas is on the hot seat after and Elite Eight and 2nd round seasons because Texas is on the wrong side of the bubble............

He better win 23 + game in year 2  or were not back here in 2029 here back here in 2027

a) hope this is all a pointless exercise that's filling the void and the Big time candidate is named in 2 weeks 

b) if it is D2 wonder boy hope I'm wrong and were set for the next 20 years just don't see it and that's the last I'll say about McCollum and we will see how it all plays out which is fair IMO 

 

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With McCollum having the week off… I’m guessing if he would “talk” to Iu at some point this week. A behind doors conversation and private. 

[IUguy77 351]

16 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

He also set the Drake wins record by 2 in year one at a school he had to win 29+ to do it. I was skeptical, but all you have to do is actually watch them play. The guy can flat coach basketball. 

And you know what his former team just did this year? Went 6-22 and missed their tourney after he just dominated it the last 14 years. 

[Hoosierfan2017 23,857]

11 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think we are about the same age, roughly… IUBB is not the Yankees anymore. We are a shell of the program we used to be. We are hardly a “blue blood” anymore if at all. Not gonna pull coaches from the Celtics or Bulls. Not even Baylor or Iowa State. Bob Knight came from Army. We’re too good for a coach from Drake? His reputation precedes himself in basketball communities, it’s not just this board convincing themselves he’s a “prodigy.” He’s probably as good as we can reasonably hope for IMO unless you prefer a Brownell kind of guy. 

Oh no… not you joining Scotty R with the Bob Knight comparisons, lol. We should be “too good” for a coach from Drake. Chris Beard is begging for the job, Will Wade would probably take it too. I’d definitely rather go with Chris Collins. If McCollum is the best we can do then I guess that says it all. The thing that got me through the Mike Woodson hire was his age meaning he wouldn’t be here long term. I don’t have the energy for another tank train, so I guess I’d just accept IU’s mediocre standing as a program, try to adjust my expectations accordingly, and hope that I’m wrong.
 

[Home Jersey 12,848]

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

[Home Jersey 12,848]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Oh no… not you joining Scotty R with the Bob Knight comparisons, lol. We should be “too good” for a coach from Drake. Chris Beard is begging for the job, Will Wade would probably take it too. I’d definitely rather go with Chris Collins. If McCollum is the best we can do then I guess that says it all. The thing that got me through the Mike Woodson hire was his age meaning he wouldn’t be here long term. I don’t have the energy for another tank train, so I guess I’d just accept IU’s mediocre standing as a program, try to adjust my expectations accordingly, and hope that I’m wrong.
 

Laughing at the Scotty R reference lol. I get it man… IUBB has been depressing. I’m ready for the search to be over already. 

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3 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Bet money Trent Sisley dips Mom and Pops didn't send him to Florida his senior year to play for a D2 coach that doesn't believe in shooting 3's and thinks fast breaks are pointless. Don't care how big and IU fan he is. 

I would take that bet for whatever money you would like to put up.

[ap2345 10,481]

3 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

With McCollum having the week off… I’m guessing if he would “talk” to Iu at some point this week. A behind doors conversation and private. 

If it's to that point it's possible. 

[lillurk 4,561]

34 minutes ago, The Big Cig said:

I think the timing of the Goodman info drops are interesting.  Both times, they came after a groundswell of chatter from the fanbase that BS is coming to IU.  It may mean nothing but it could also be to calm things down until the season is over.  May be wishful thinking on my part but until it comes directly from BS himself I’ll hold out hope.

If he’s still involved (and I believe he is) then the timing of the first reporting on 2/14 seems intentional; i.e. Goodman heard rumblings and asked. Got a careful non-denial quote that seems to have had the desired effect.

The more interesting thing to me is that Goodman is the only one who’s gotten anything on the record. I know why — BS doesn’t have press obligations in his role like he did in ‘21 as a coach — but all that’s public saying he’s out hinges on the Goodman 2/14 reporting, including Goodman’s own “(obviously)” yesterday.

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

This guy is really good:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Hodge

 

Well…considering we’re bringing up McCollum this is fair. Excellent coaching record prior to joining Division 2. 146-24 record is impressive…and he has more than 1 year D1 experience and has done pretty well at North Texas so far. 

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56 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

Definitely not Brownell……….

Much appreciate the clarification!

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1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

May’s first season in the big leagues is in free fall. He looked kinda silly in that interview on the fight too.

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4 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Bet money Trent Sisley dips Mom and Pops didn't send him to Florida his senior year to play for a D2 coach that doesn't believe in shooting 3's and thinks fast breaks are pointless. Don't care how big and IU fan he is. 

And that's all fine and good so you think you and everyone else in the fan base are gonna be ok with 14-17, 16-15, 17-14? Again ORAL ROBERTS just fired their coach after a TWO season. NC STATE just fired their coach a year after a final four run. Rodney Terry at Texas is on the hot seat after and Elite Eight and 2nd round seasons because Texas is on the wrong side of the bubble............

He better win 23 + game in year 2  or were not back here in 2029 here back here in 2027

a) hope this is all a pointless exercise that's filling the void and the Big time candidate is named in 2 weeks 

b) if it is D2 wonder boy hope I'm wrong and were set for the next 20 years just don't see it and that's the last I'll say about McCollum and we will see how it all plays out which is fair IMO 

 

He's playing the style he is this year because of the roster he has. Look at his offensive stats from his last few years at the D2 level and you'll realize that one is not like the others. I get what you're trying to say but great coaches can adjust to the rosters they have and McCollum has done that this year.

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8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

.....because of this, IMO, Dolson is not looking for anymore new, flavor of the month, "up and comers". His sights have been set on a coach with experience and positive results. He wants to hit the ground running.

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2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

I’m kinda the inverse, was/am very bullish on May*, have been intrigued by McCollum but came around slowly.

I think there are obvious McC strengths, and I think my concerns or questions fit well with having him at IU in an era when you can openly, legally spend to recruit.

*May’s turnaround at UM this year is impressive even with the fade, but I think it’s possible I’m not as high on him as I was.

[DougJr74 195]

I understand the concerns about the D1 experience. I still believe McCollum would do well and build a great culture at IU. Just like people are saying Stevens has coached in college for so long. Do you think he forgot how to coach? The college structure is more like the NBA now. Stevens has been successful as a coach and as an administrator. We'll be fine with either one in my opinion. I trust Dolson.

[AH1971 2,328]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

I'd feel a lot better about McCollum if he had a roster full of players he could bring with him. Seeing Drake play a few times this year, their PG is the only one who I could see playing at this level and while he's serviceable, he's not a star in the B10 by any means. 

 

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1 hour ago, EasyEJay said:

 Well hopefully D2 wonder boy doesn't get absolutely stuffed into a trash can in round 1

I have yet to understand how the complete narrative of McCollum is determined by a first round matchup where his team is obviously less talented than his opponent.

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1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

He's playing the style he is this year because of the roster he has. Look at his offensive stats from his last few years at the D2 level and you'll realize that one is not like the others. I get what you're trying to say but great coaches can adjust to the rosters they have and McCollum has done that this year.

I am coming around on McCollum after watching him this week and reading up on him.  He is a WAY WAY WAY better option than someone like Brownell.  

I definitely think he builds his offense around the talent that he has.  I read someone earlier that said he does not believe in fast breaks.  That is such a terrible thought that it does not even deserve a response.   His Drake team just yesterday scored off of several fast breaks that came from their defense.  

I am still all in on Stevens.  But if our fall back option is McCollum then we are in a good spot I believe. 

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Just now, AH1971 said:

I'd feel a lot better about McCollum if he had a roster full of players he could bring with him. Seeing Drake play a few times this year, their PG is the only one who I could see playing at this level and while he's serviceable, he's not a star in the B10 by any means. 

 

Yeah that’s totally fair. Probably the biggest drawback to him IMO is the fact he’d have to build a whole new team in the portal for the first time. I’m not concerned about his ability to coach guys or identify talent. IU’s NIL would help I’m sure. I’m inclined to believe in his basketball abilities. Don’t know how he’d be at all the off court stuff having not done that at a P5 level. But I’d bet pretty good or fine enough. I’m comfortable with the risks on McCollum personally.