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[Hoosier987]

17 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

Respectfully, what does Drake being historically great have anything to do with what McCollum’s done this year? You just accused someone of minimizing Dusty’s accomplishments. Is this not doing the exact same thing?
 

He had 1 player return from last year’s roster….. How exactly is Drake’s historical achievements helping him in that scenario? Indiana has won 5 national titles…How has that historical dominance worked out for Mike Davis, Tom Crean, Archie, and Woody? 
 

I love Dusty May. I think he’s an excellent coach. But I believe McCollum is a generational coach. His peers seem to agree with me. He can win at any level of basketball. 
 

When you say the the two are not comparable, I tend to agree. One is better imho and the other is Dusty May. 
 

Note: I have no idea how I jacked the formatting up this bad. 

The same way Archie won at a place like Dayton. Again, not saying McCollum will turn out to be Archie, but maybe he will. We won’t know till after the fact. Going from d2 to Indiana is a massive jump…there’s so much more to being a coach at Indiana than being an excellent bench game coach…so MUCH MORE (and I’m not talking about having good assistants either). I’ve made my sentiments known about McCollum so I’m not going to continue to repeat myself (which I’ve already done lol)…would I support the team if he was hired? Absolutely. Do I think he would be a good hire to make at this time? Absolutely not…for reasons everyone else has mentioned. Do I think he’s the next coach at IU? No.  Trust Dolson. Patience.

[Stuhoo]

This guy is really good:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Hodge

 

[theriverpilot]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think we are about the same age, roughly… IUBB is not the Yankees anymore. We are a shell of the program we used to be. We are hardly a “blue blood” anymore if at all. Not gonna pull coaches from the Celtics or Bulls. Not even Baylor or Iowa State. Bob Knight came from Army. We’re too good for a coach from Drake? His reputation precedes himself in basketball communities, it’s not just this board convincing themselves he’s a “prodigy.” He’s probably as good as we can reasonably hope for IMO unless you prefer a Brownell kind of guy. 

I know it's been said before in the past, but I'll bring it up again.  The IUBB and Nebraska football mirror each other with the uphill battle to return to prominence.  I'm really starting to temper my expectations at this point.

[EasyEJay]

27 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

That’s fine.  It will come.  It’s first building with the type of kids you want to run that system effectively.  This is something we have lacked for years.  A foundation for the system.  We need that.  Then you sprinkle in the NBA like talent that fits that talent.  

Bet money Trent Sisley dips Mom and Pops didn't send him to Florida his senior year to play for a D2 coach that doesn't believe in shooting 3's and thinks fast breaks are pointless. Don't care how big and IU fan he is. 

And that's all fine and good so you think you and everyone else in the fan base are gonna be ok with 14-17, 16-15, 17-14? Again ORAL ROBERTS just fired their coach after a TWO season. NC STATE just fired their coach a year after a final four run. Rodney Terry at Texas is on the hot seat after and Elite Eight and 2nd round seasons because Texas is on the wrong side of the bubble............

He better win 23 + game in year 2  or were not back here in 2029 here back here in 2027

a) hope this is all a pointless exercise that's filling the void and the Big time candidate is named in 2 weeks 

b) if it is D2 wonder boy hope I'm wrong and were set for the next 20 years just don't see it and that's the last I'll say about McCollum and we will see how it all plays out which is fair IMO 

 

[cbp4iu]

With McCollum having the week off… I’m guessing if he would “talk” to Iu at some point this week. A behind doors conversation and private. 

[IUguy77]

16 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

He also set the Drake wins record by 2 in year one at a school he had to win 29+ to do it. I was skeptical, but all you have to do is actually watch them play. The guy can flat coach basketball. 

And you know what his former team just did this year? Went 6-22 and missed their tourney after he just dominated it the last 14 years. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

11 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think we are about the same age, roughly… IUBB is not the Yankees anymore. We are a shell of the program we used to be. We are hardly a “blue blood” anymore if at all. Not gonna pull coaches from the Celtics or Bulls. Not even Baylor or Iowa State. Bob Knight came from Army. We’re too good for a coach from Drake? His reputation precedes himself in basketball communities, it’s not just this board convincing themselves he’s a “prodigy.” He’s probably as good as we can reasonably hope for IMO unless you prefer a Brownell kind of guy. 

Oh no… not you joining Scotty R with the Bob Knight comparisons, lol. We should be “too good” for a coach from Drake. Chris Beard is begging for the job, Will Wade would probably take it too. I’d definitely rather go with Chris Collins. If McCollum is the best we can do then I guess that says it all. The thing that got me through the Mike Woodson hire was his age meaning he wouldn’t be here long term. I don’t have the energy for another tank train, so I guess I’d just accept IU’s mediocre standing as a program, try to adjust my expectations accordingly, and hope that I’m wrong.
 

[Home Jersey]

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Oh no… not you joining Scotty R with the Bob Knight comparisons, lol. We should be “too good” for a coach from Drake. Chris Beard is begging for the job, Will Wade would probably take it too. I’d definitely rather go with Chris Collins. If McCollum is the best we can do then I guess that says it all. The thing that got me through the Mike Woodson hire was his age meaning he wouldn’t be here long term. I don’t have the energy for another tank train, so I guess I’d just accept IU’s mediocre standing as a program, try to adjust my expectations accordingly, and hope that I’m wrong.
 

Laughing at the Scotty R reference lol. I get it man… IUBB has been depressing. I’m ready for the search to be over already. 

[JimmerNoe]

3 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Bet money Trent Sisley dips Mom and Pops didn't send him to Florida his senior year to play for a D2 coach that doesn't believe in shooting 3's and thinks fast breaks are pointless. Don't care how big and IU fan he is. 

I would take that bet for whatever money you would like to put up.

[ap2345]

3 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

With McCollum having the week off… I’m guessing if he would “talk” to Iu at some point this week. A behind doors conversation and private. 

If it's to that point it's possible. 

[lillurk]

34 minutes ago, The Big Cig said:

I think the timing of the Goodman info drops are interesting.  Both times, they came after a groundswell of chatter from the fanbase that BS is coming to IU.  It may mean nothing but it could also be to calm things down until the season is over.  May be wishful thinking on my part but until it comes directly from BS himself I’ll hold out hope.

If he’s still involved (and I believe he is) then the timing of the first reporting on 2/14 seems intentional; i.e. Goodman heard rumblings and asked. Got a careful non-denial quote that seems to have had the desired effect.

The more interesting thing to me is that Goodman is the only one who’s gotten anything on the record. I know why — BS doesn’t have press obligations in his role like he did in ‘21 as a coach — but all that’s public saying he’s out hinges on the Goodman 2/14 reporting, including Goodman’s own “(obviously)” yesterday.

[Hoosier987]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

This guy is really good:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Hodge

 

Well…considering we’re bringing up McCollum this is fair. Excellent coaching record prior to joining Division 2. 146-24 record is impressive…and he has more than 1 year D1 experience and has done pretty well at North Texas so far. 

[Stuhoo]

56 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

Definitely not Brownell……….

Much appreciate the clarification!

[Alford Bailey]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

May’s first season in the big leagues is in free fall. He looked kinda silly in that interview on the fight too.

[ap2345]

4 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Bet money Trent Sisley dips Mom and Pops didn't send him to Florida his senior year to play for a D2 coach that doesn't believe in shooting 3's and thinks fast breaks are pointless. Don't care how big and IU fan he is. 

And that's all fine and good so you think you and everyone else in the fan base are gonna be ok with 14-17, 16-15, 17-14? Again ORAL ROBERTS just fired their coach after a TWO season. NC STATE just fired their coach a year after a final four run. Rodney Terry at Texas is on the hot seat after and Elite Eight and 2nd round seasons because Texas is on the wrong side of the bubble............

He better win 23 + game in year 2  or were not back here in 2029 here back here in 2027

a) hope this is all a pointless exercise that's filling the void and the Big time candidate is named in 2 weeks 

b) if it is D2 wonder boy hope I'm wrong and were set for the next 20 years just don't see it and that's the last I'll say about McCollum and we will see how it all plays out which is fair IMO 

 

He's playing the style he is this year because of the roster he has. Look at his offensive stats from his last few years at the D2 level and you'll realize that one is not like the others. I get what you're trying to say but great coaches can adjust to the rosters they have and McCollum has done that this year.

[Artie86]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

.....because of this, IMO, Dolson is not looking for anymore new, flavor of the month, "up and comers". His sights have been set on a coach with experience and positive results. He wants to hit the ground running.

[lillurk]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

I’m kinda the inverse, was/am very bullish on May*, have been intrigued by McCollum but came around slowly.

I think there are obvious McC strengths, and I think my concerns or questions fit well with having him at IU in an era when you can openly, legally spend to recruit.

*May’s turnaround at UM this year is impressive even with the fade, but I think it’s possible I’m not as high on him as I was.

[DougJr74]

I understand the concerns about the D1 experience. I still believe McCollum would do well and build a great culture at IU. Just like people are saying Stevens has coached in college for so long. Do you think he forgot how to coach? The college structure is more like the NBA now. Stevens has been successful as a coach and as an administrator. We'll be fine with either one in my opinion. I trust Dolson.

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

How many people who are gun shy on McCollum also hesitated about Dusty May before his one year at Michigan? There’s a level of risk in hiring you usually have to accept. Sometimes it pays off. IU fans are very risk averse after the past 9 seasons. Hard to blame them. Tough to square with the realities of the market. McCollum would win bigly at IU.

I'd feel a lot better about McCollum if he had a roster full of players he could bring with him. Seeing Drake play a few times this year, their PG is the only one who I could see playing at this level and while he's serviceable, he's not a star in the B10 by any means.