Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said:

https://x.com/georgelettice69/status/2041729210494984461

Yeah, this partially explains my crashout last night.  But he isn’t the only one I was talking too.  
 

The thing is, Lettice and some of the others want to build a certain type of team.  It’s not the DeVries type recruit.  So, it’s not a total indictment of what we will build it’s just not the type or level of recruit these guys want.  
 

But yes, it made me grumpy last night.  Lol. 
 

As always, I’m not giving up hope yet.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said:

https://x.com/georgelettice69/status/2041729210494984461

It appears we target a recruit, show interest, then get a price and back out.

This explains what I was trying to say about Vaaks, Harris, and maybe Harrelson last night.  That’s why agents are listing us, but the reality is we are priced out.   Maybe not for Harrelson yet.  Bidunga, several others.  

[Uspshoosier]

My source says you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.    

[str8baller]

12 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

appears we target a recruit, show interest, then get a price and back out.

Seems like a lot of schools might be doing that since nobody has signed yet. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the bigger names take visits and see if they can get bidding wars going. 

[IU5355]

Some of the expectations on here seem just unrealistic. We aren't getting a whole new starting lineup of big splash players. 

Let's hope Carr and Devries are on the same page and find a competent roster with no glaring holes. 

Devries has shown he can assemble a solid team and coach. He just has to do it here. 

With that being said, we have to find the diamond in the rough type guys. In Carr we trust. 

[Kentuckysucks]

9 minutes ago, IU5355 said:

Some of the expectations on here seem just unrealistic. We aren't getting a whole new starting lineup of big splash players. 

Let's hope Carr and Devries are on the same page and find a competent roster with no glaring holes. 

Devries has shown he can assemble a solid team and coach. He just has to do it here. 

With that being said, we have to find the diamond in the rough type guys. In Carr we trust. 

I think all we're hoping for is 3 impact players (only had one last season) and a few complimentary role players.  It shouldn't be that hard if we have $14M.  No one is expecting to build a FF team through the portal this year.

[rcbowla]

29 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

My source says you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.    

My mom is also one of my most trusted sources. But really only for cooking, balancing a check book and sewing.

[IUHoosierJoe]

31 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

My source says you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.    

Your source must not know about this fan base, lol.

[IU Prof]

14 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I think all we're hoping for is 3 impact players (only had one last season) and a few complimentary role players.  It shouldn't be that hard if we have $14M.  No one is expecting to build a FF team through the portal this year.

I'm not sure that last sentence is accurate...

[Home Jersey]

I don't think we will spend on more than 2 high priced guys. Moneyball the other 5 spots. 3 of them maybe with medium spend types who have multiple years of eligibility ideally. Then maybe round out with 2 cheap vets from low major ranks.

[BGleas]

I constantly find myself reading @WayneFleekHoosier's posts and getting mad. I want to reply and go at him for the negativity and expectations that at the moment are too high. It frustrates me. 

Then I usually take a beat and don't reply. Then I take another beat and wonder why I don't reply and get into a back and forth with him. 

During that time I realize it's because I know he's probably right.

I get it, we haven't even signed a player yet, we have to let things play out before we judge things, and I'm usually way more on the patient side. 

But, my worry all season was whether DeVries had the cache to swing big on this landscape, as well as the funds, especially after essentially wasting a year and creating no momentum. 

How come Louisville can get Flory and Shelstad to take a joint visit and IU can't even get in with one of them?

How come Michigan can bounce back from the Juwan Howard experience like it never happened, but we're still discussing Mike Davis, Crean, Archie and Woodson?

This program has no juice and has been lifeless for so long. Just frustrating. 

Feels like we're watching the same movie over and over. 

Ok, rant over. I'll go back to managing my expectations and being more measured now. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

DDv and staff signed top 10 transfer Javon Small two years ago. 
Beat UK for a bonafide stud in Wilkerson last year.

I want to lock in Burton soon and let that help sell the vision to others. Miss on him and it could get bleak quickly. 

But none of it matters if the wrong guy is coaching em. We’ve had a top 10 transfer class the last two years with nothing to show for it

[skhoosier2]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

It appears we target a recruit, show interest, then get a price and back out.

This explains what I was trying to say about Vaaks, Harris, and maybe Harrelson last night.  That’s why agents are listing us, but the reality is we are priced out.   Maybe not for Harrelson yet.  Bidunga, several others.  

Saw his tweet this morning and assumed the same thing.  We need too many pieces to spend big on 3+ guys.  The staff definitely has its work cut out for it.  

[skhoosier2]

1 hour ago, IU5355 said:

Some of the expectations on here seem just unrealistic. We aren't getting a whole new starting lineup of big splash players. 

Let's hope Carr and Devries are on the same page and find a competent roster with no glaring holes. 

Devries has shown he can assemble a solid team and coach. He just has to do it here. 

With that being said, we have to find the diamond in the rough type guys. In Carr we trust. 

This has been my thoughts going into the portal.  With what we need, I just don't see how we afford the big splash players especially given the amounts of money being tossed around as asking prices.  We need 7 players.  On 14m (IF that's actually what we have), we cannot afford to spend recklessly.  I really think we have to find players that have talent but that are not the big splash names to build our team with.  Many fans will be disappointed especially the twitter verse iubb crazies.  I think it's critical we make the tournament this year to build some momentum, but I do think this won't be a fast rebuild.  I also think we are inquiring about the big names and seeing the price tags pricing us out fast.  Players are using us to get more $$ like they did last season knowing we need a full team again.  Not a great situation to be in leverage wise to negotiate IMO.

[8bucks]

23 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I constantly find myself reading @WayneFleekHoosier's posts and getting mad. I want to reply and go at him for the negativity and expectations that at the moment are too high. It frustrates me. 

Then I usually take a beat and don't reply. Then I take another beat and wonder why I don't reply and get into a back and forth with him. 

During that time I realize it's because I know he's probably right.

I get it, we haven't even signed a player yet, we have to let things play out before we judge things, and I'm usually way more on the patient side. 

But, my worry all season was whether DeVries had the cache to swing big on this landscape, as well as the funds. 

How come Louisville can get Flory and Shelstad to take a joint visit and IU can't even get in with one of them?

How come Michigan can bounce back from the Juwan Howard experience like it never happened, but we're still discussing Archie and Woodson?

This program has no juice and has been lifeless for so long. Just frustrating. 

Feels like we're watching the same movie over and over. 

Ok, rant over. I'll go back to managing my expectations and being more measured now. 

This was me last year. And he was right then and I started to see it once you think through it and take off the IU bias.   This year could be different, we hope, but it is a wait and see. 

I think even if we spend $14 million we are having to pay more for some kids than a competitor school who has had more success.  So while we may spend top 15-20 overall, because we have to overpay we are probably getting $10 million level roster  

Even with a $10 million roster we apparently have enough money for coaches/staff/facilities that they should be able to grind it out and produce results above than $10 million level.  Last year I don’t think we did  

 

[AH1971]

The handwringing over who we're targeting is nauseating. We could be on commitment watch for 2-3 of DraftExpress top 10 players who all have deep staff/program connections.

https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/2041734755146727818?s=20

[WayneFleekHoosier]

25 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I constantly find myself reading @WayneFleekHoosier's posts and getting mad. I want to reply and go at him for the negativity and expectations that at the moment are too high. It frustrates me. 

Then I usually take a beat and don't reply. Then I take another beat and wonder why I don't reply and get into a back and forth with him. 

During that time I realize it's because I know he's probably right.

I get it, we haven't even signed a player yet, we have to let things play out before we judge things, and I'm usually way more on the patient side. 

But, my worry all season was whether DeVries had the cache to swing big on this landscape, as well as the funds, especially after essentially wasting a year and creating no momentum. 

How come Louisville can get Flory and Shelstad to take a joint visit and IU can't even get in with one of them?

How come Michigan can bounce back from the Juwan Howard experience like it never happened, but we're still discussing Archie and Woodson?

This program has no juice and has been lifeless for so long. Just frustrating. 

Feels like we're watching the same movie over and over. 

Ok, rant over. I'll go back to managing my expectations and being more measured now. 

exactly how i feel.  always told to reset expectations.  we've been bad so long.  etc. etc.  there are plenty of examples of teams down bad that have rebounded.  plenty of counters to all the excuses yet we make them to feel better or have hope.  I don't care about feeling better.  It is what it is to me.  Its the reality of things to me.  I am frustrated by it, of course. I vent, of course.  I've said before and i'll say again, when our results and actions match my attainable top 20 program aspirations I won't be viewed as negative by the board.  until then, i probably will.  imo, zero reason not to be a top 20 type program.  I actually kinda like DeVries but he's so blase as a personality.  I think Indiana needs some swagger and some confidence.  some recruiting juice.  something postive to get the ball rolling.  A great season would have done it.  Now we are in the same boat we were a year ago.  swung and missed on a lot of top 2026 recruits.  Got a few middle ranked guys with longterm upside.  Now, not able to swing for the fences in the portal.  or opting not to.  I'm convinced our roster this year will be better on paper than last year but I don't think it'll be the level the program needs to create a spark.

[Stuhoo]

Another theory:

WAYNEFLEEK IS GEORGIE LETTUCE!

PS: No you knuckleheads; he is not.

PS pt. 2: I am now tempted to change my posting name to "Jorge Tomatoes."

[Chris007]

From reading other boards and talking to some people, it sounds like Olson is a done deal, Estrealla is looking good, and hopefully, Burton doesn't commit on his visit to Houston. 

[CSP]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

From reading other boards and talking to some people, it sounds like Olson is a done deal, Estrealla is looking good, and hopefully, Burton doesn't commit on his visit to Houston. 

man... Burton does NOT seem like a Houston type player, buuuuut.... since Sampson does want him, I absolutely want him.