They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, Demo said:

How do you create a poll? I ask because I’m dying to poll the question:

“What is the grossest, most soul-sucking thread in BTB history?”

The nominees:

A) Fire Coach Woodson 

B) There is no B

I vote ‘A’

[AZ Hoosier]

34 minutes ago, iubhounds2 said:

In a sick sort of way, I'd like Woodson to get his 4th year just to see what he comes up with, no matter how bad it gets. The problem with that thinking is ... four more B1G teams next year and that would put them near 17th or 18th in the conference. I think I'm joking about this ...or am I?

Your masochism is showing...

[Uspshoosier]

11 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Anyone throwing out numbers like ‘98% he will be back’, please show your math.  What was your numerator and denominator?

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I vote ‘A’

Can’t imagine anybody on this forum that would vote any other option besides A.

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Demo said:

How do you create a poll? I ask because I’m dying to poll the question:

“What is the grossest, most soul-sucking thread in BTB history?”

The nominees:

A) Fire Coach Woodson 

B) There is no B

B) the thread when Woodson was hired

[IUFAN1976]

4 minutes ago, hoosiersoxfan said:

I haven't read through all this thread recently so I'm not sure where the rumors are coming from.  I'm being told there could be a small shakeup with the coaching staff, but Woodson isn't going anywhere after this season unless he decides to step down which would be a surprise.  His plan was always 4-5 years and then retirement and his buyout makes it unlikely he is removed as coach after this season.

Maybe he sees the writing on the wall and decides to step down early but he is pretty oblivious to just how much people want him out at this time.

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

[BlueDevil]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

If that is what needs to happen to prop up this bum then just cut the f’ng losses. 

[Tom White]

18 hours ago, cleeter said:

Let me get back to the “Fire Woodson” category….

Trilly dropped another positive note for us. I shall leave it at that.

Not trying to be a jerk, but I don't follow him like some do, so a question - 

How much has he actually gotten right, at least in recent years, where IU is concerned?

[AZ Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

That might be a reasonable plan for any other coach besides Woodson. He managed to ignore and/or remove the helps that Dolson gave him at the start (Fife and Matta) ... and refuses to change his style and approach ... I can see him continuing to be stubborn and ignoring any assistants/assistance provided, because, well, he's Mike Woodson - the smartest man in the room... and we all know the only real issue is "the hump".

Seriously, I don't see that approach ending well for him or us.

[Hornsby]

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

Not sure if changes to the staff means much of anything. Woodson would have to be willing to change his whole philosophy and system and I don't see that happening. That would mean he would have to admit what he is doing does not work.

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[Ghost of Rick Majerus]

6 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

Yes, maybe we could get a former successful head coach to come in and mentor him and a long time assistant to sit with him on the bench........oh wait....we already did this. And how long did that last?

 

 

[IUGRAD06]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

That might be a reasonable plan for any other coach besides Woodson. He managed to ignore and/or remove the helps that Dolson gave him at the start (Fife and Matta) ... and refuses to change his style and approach ... I can see him continuing to be stubborn and ignoring any assistants/assistance provided, because, well, he's Mike Woodson - the smartest man in the room... and we all know the only real issue is "the hump".

Seriously, I don't see that approach ending well for him or us.

Won’t be watching next year and quit this year.  Worst school ever.  

[mdiu28]

5 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

That's a fart in a stiff wind but you're probably right. 

Lets just fire people Woody doesn't listen to anyway, replace them with more people he won't listen to just to please people. 

We are a joke. 

[Scotty R]

25 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Heck no there is no agreement with another coach right now. Who said there was? That is crazy.

Post I replied to

There is zero reason for Woodson to get his 4th year if there is a verbal agreement with another coach

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

But if we have already heard that he doesn't listen to his current assistants, then why do we think he would listen to some new guys? I know he is going to try to bring in Kenny Payne as an assistant. There has also been talk of a GM for next year. Let's just save all that money and walk away. No reason to do all that one year 

[Chris007]

Just now, Scotty R said:

Post I replied to

There is zero reason for Woodson to get his 4th year if there is a verbal agreement with another coach

Well, I don't think there is a verbal agreement with any coach. Do I think IU has asked agents if this job opened up would your client be interested? If they say yes then maybe something like what kind of money are they looking for. But I don't think anything has gone further than that. But I don't know any of the for sure. JMO

[IUCrazy2]

9 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I say this is more likely.  I can see Dolson and company will keep Woodson but they will make changes to the coaching staff.  They will try to get a more X’s/O’s and skills coach as well as possibly getting a coach that is a good recruiter for shooters, if there is such a thing

And Woody won't listen to them so just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

[Hoosierfan2017]

Dusty May would 100% say yes to the job. Thus, there’s no reason to bring back Woodson for a 4th season. 

And I don’t even want the Dust. But if X number of big-name coaches don’t want the job now, they definitely won’t want it after an even worse season next season. So let’s get Dusty. There’s no possible way he’ll be worse than Woodson. At the very least, he won’t half-a*** the job like a certain somebody. 

[Hornsby]

But if we have already heard that he doesn't listen to his current assistants, then why do we think he would listen to some new guys? I know he is going to try to bring in Kenny Payne as an assistant. There has also been talk of a GM for next year. Let's just save all that money and walk away. No reason to do all that one year 

Kenny Payne
Armond Hill
Randy Wittman
A collection of bad coaches. Why not bring in kent benson while we are at it.

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[Banksyrules]

34 minutes ago, VO5 said:

The day this is confirmed is the last day for me as a fan. I’m an alum and a donor. I’ve had enough. IU is a clown show and I don’t need the angst in my life anymore. 

It's tough when you're a fan and you have an emotional attachment with that team. You hope that the least the administration can do is act in good faith. I have experience with this as a Mets (new owner is awesome though) and (former) big US Soccer fan.  I can live with on field mistakes  but when administration doesn't do the most basic obvious decision and there is no end in sight it's time to protect your mental health and move on.  I quit caring about US Soccer because of nepotism and a system that is so corrupt that there is no way we can develop players that can compete with the best in the world.  I'm still a hardcore  Mets fan because even though we still stink the new owner is making solid decisions that will hopefully make us a great club more consistently.  

IU is at an impasse with me.  I love my time as a student and fun I had watching IU basketball with my friends, but if we're only hanging on to a coach because he knows the right people, then quite honestly how can anyone believe that we'll find success one day?  I think my time is better served letting my dog play in the woods or bribing my Niece and nephew to become Mets fans by funding a trip to NY comic con so they can be the best geeks they want to be.  Good luck with everyone here finding that balance and treat yourself right.