They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[IUrocker]

Mike Woodson on his coaches show a few minutes ago “I’m a realist, man. I mean I’ve been doing this a long time and I’ve seen good and bad teams, and it ain’t time to panic, you know, we’ve just got to continue to work and see where it leads us.” 

[go iu bb]

13 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Woodson on radio show says we have played good basketball in spurts. Just not long enough to win. He needs to keep working with these guys to get them over that hump.
We have another hump to get over!

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It's a new team so in another 25 games I'm sure he'll have them clicking. It's a big hump to get over. Just gotta keep working. (on what? Never specified)

[Scotty R]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s the ‘woe is us’ defeatist attitude that the administration wants us to have so they can excuse cheaping out and making a mediocre hire. It’s not “IU can’t.” It’s “IU won’t.” Use some of that surplus and offer $7 million a year. If you still can’t get a proven coach (they definitely could) then just shut down the program completely. 

No it's not, is isn't  just an IU thing but just a college basketball thing. Where are all of these great coaches leaving for another school. 

I'm the last few years all of these jobs came open

Syracuse

Villanova

UNC

Duke

UCLA

Mick Cronin was the biggest hire and he came from UC so not a power conference team.

[Trish]

6 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

Mike Woodson on his coaches show a few minutes ago “I’m a realist, man. I mean I’ve been doing this a long time and I’ve seen good and bad teams, and it ain’t time to panic, you know, we’ve just got to continue to work and see where it leads us.” 

He’s an idiot if he believes that. I knew this season was a dud with this roster in September. Season is over. 

[SamIam]

People here love Nate Oats but definitely would have called him "unproven" and "flavor of the month" coming from Buffalo.  Sh*t, go look at the AP poll and the Kenpom top 25. Every coach on there except Bill Self was either hired as an assistant, mid-major coach, or was previously fired from another job. All of those apparently disqualify you from being considered for the IU job. 

Why do we make it so hard on ourselves to be successful? Why do we have so many arbitrary requirements? Other successful schools go out and hire an up and coming guy, like schools have done for years. Here, we need a qualified guy from a power five, but he can't be too old and tired like Woody. And he needs to be able to recruit Indiana and understand our program's history, but we need to stop "looking for IU guys" cause that doesn't work. He needs to be an energetic program builder who is young enough to burn up the recruiting trail, but he can't come from a mid-major program, cause Archie flamed out. Every coaching search we have a new requirement based on what we think went wrong with the last one. We tried to fix Crean with Archie, fix Archie with Woody, and now Woody with whoever replaces him. Since Archie didn't work we have people excluding all mid-major guys. Now since Woody is floundering we have ppl excluding all IU guys.

How about this: we recognize every coach is their own person. When you get down to it, there is compelling evidence that Dusty May is a really really good coach. He has certainly built a program out of nothing. He is one of the hottest names in coaching, period. And he just happens to be a southern Indiana boy and alum who understands and loves the program. True, that may not be enough, who knows. But too many people in here just say "Archie Miller" as a blanket exclusion of every mid major guy as if that hasn't been the chief method of finding a coach for all of CBB history. 

[Brass Cannon]

11 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

Mike Woodson on his coaches show a few minutes ago “I’m a realist, man. I mean I’ve been doing this a long time and I’ve seen good and bad teams, and it ain’t time to panic, you know, we’ve just got to continue to work and see where it leads us.” 

Oh wow.  Has nobody told him the season is over?

[SamIam]

18 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s the ‘woe is us’ defeatist attitude that the administration wants us to have so they can excuse cheaping out and making a mediocre hire. It’s not “IU can’t.” It’s “IU won’t.” Use some of that surplus and offer $7 million a year. If you still can’t get a proven coach (they definitely could) then just shut down the program completely. 

If you want us to move this year we don't have the money for this. We just moved on from the 20 million dollar man in football. Woody is at 12.5 mill, and we would have to pay to buy the new coach out and any "proven" coach is gonna be 10+ million as well. 

[AZ Hoosier]

27 minutes ago, Five Prime said:

Could this team lose the rest of its games?  And if so, no way you can keep Woodson at that point, right?

Buckner, Dolson and the Cook family's money.

[HoosierHoopster]

33 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Woodson on radio show says we have played good basketball in spurts. Just not long enough to win. He needs to keep working with these guys to get them over that hump.
We have another hump to get over!

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The phrase “the hump” now causes me to go into unconscious teeth grinding… 

[HoosierHoopster]

2 hours ago, Kentuckysucks said:

What the hell happened at Illinois today?

No idea — crazy breakdown

[AZ Hoosier]

21 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

Mike Woodson on his coaches show a few minutes ago “I’m a realist, man. I mean I’ve been doing this a long time and I’ve seen good and bad teams, and it ain’t time to panic, you know, we’ve just got to continue to work and see where it leads us.” 

Still on that d****d hump... and with his backing (Buckner and the Cook family checkbook), he ain't ready to panic...

[AZ Hoosier]

21 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

It's a new team so in another 25 games I'm sure he'll have them clicking. It's a big hump to get over. Just gotta keep working. (on what? Never specified)

so long as he was drumming his hands/fingers when he said it...

[NVFalcons1990]

22 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Like who

in no particular order 
 

1. Jay Wright - long shot but hope money talks, we have to put out the feeler.  Would be a king here

2. Brad Stephens - just to see if anything has changed, probably not as he’s in higher spot with Celtics

3. Nate Oates - Does he want the challenge, seems like the type

4. Mick Cronin - Does he miss the Midwest and would he bring excitement to the fan base

5. Mike White - Currently at Georgia, had some success at Florida

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Mad Dog

Mad Dog May has a certain je ne sais quoi to it. Definitely a winner.

[ziggyiu]

2 minutes ago, SamIam said:

If you want us to move this year we don't have the money for this. We just moved on from the 20 million dollar man in football. Woody is at 12.5 mill, and we would have to pay to buy the new coach out and any "proven" coach is gonna be 10+ million as well. 

Nearly each institution in the BigTen has more money than they know what to do with. The new TV deal, big donors, etc. make almost anything feasible--if it is wanted badly enough. 

Also, if IU is willing to fork over $15+ million to get rid of a bad football head coach, then less money to move on from a bad coach in the beloved sport that has been the university's athletic identity for more than 85 years won't be an issue--if they really want to.

These buyouts sound like big money, and they are huge deals. It's just that the wallets are getting so fat it can be difficult to comprehend. 

[NVFalcons1990]

Those who say Chris Beard seem to forget:

“Texas fires coach Chris Beard for cause following arrest on felony charge of assaulting fiancée”

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

Mad Dog May has a certain je ne sais quoi to it. 

I love it when you talk dirty to me!

[RoadRage]

41 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Woodson on radio show says we have played good basketball in spurts. Just not long enough to win. He needs to keep working with these guys to get them over that hump.
We have another hump to get over!

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He should talk to this guy….he seems to be a hump expert!

[LamarCheeks]

1 minute ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

in no particular order 
 

1. Jay Wright - long shot but hope money talks, we have to put out the feeler.  Would be a king here

 

I think if Jay wanted to coach again, he'd already have a job. He's said he's done -- and I get the impression he has no interest in dealing with NIL or the craziness that is the portal. 

Even if "money talks" and we were somehow able to make him -- as The Godfather said -- an offer he couldn't refuse, I'd be very leery. I'd worry that his heart really isn't into it and he's obviously only doing it for the $$$. 

[NVFalcons1990]

42 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Last 4 seasons at Dayton he averaged 26 wins, made the tournament all four years and won the A10 twice.

This was thought as a great home run hire by everyone.  Sometimes thinks just don’t work out, was just in over his head.