They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Alford Bailey]

Woodson won’t be here next year. I think that’s a given. But,  if you watch cbb and listen to most coaches complain about the current landscape I’m not confident things change that much. No accountability from players who get guaranteed money or can easily transfer. Like Painter said it’s like dating in middle school.

[Golfman25]

32 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Really shocked how quiet dolson has been through all of this. I mean when the fans have turned so negative they are booing and chanting to be fired. Is it not normal for the athletic director to step in and calm the storm somehow?

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I don't think he wants to.  I think he wants all the clowns to see what they did to this once great program so they scury away in disgrace.    He knows, with the right coach this thing is turned around in a few months.  

[cbp4iu]

I’m sure I’m not the only one but I’m ready for this season to be over and it’s January. Woodson and some other fans can tell me to go find another program but I really just have no heart for this program this season. Maybe if an interim took over I would watch with the idea of hope of getting a couple wins. Then again you don’t want an interim to kill it or they might be considered for the job. Personally if Woodson was back next year I probably wouldn’t even bother investing a minute to watching. Everything is toxic it makes me mad/upset. I never believed in Woodson and I’m ready for Indiana to be able to shoot the 3 ball again and play defense. 

[BGVille Hoosierfan]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Feb 4th 

Feb 5th is going to be a great day for Indiana University basketball 

[Brass Cannon]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Woodson won’t be here next year. I think that’s a given. But,  if you watch cbb and listen to most coaches complain about the current landscape I’m not confident things change that much. No accountability from players who get guaranteed money or can easily transfer. Like Painter said it’s like dating in middle school.

NIL packages will need to start having performance incentives. 

[Golfman25]

4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Woodson won’t be here next year. I think that’s a given. But,  if you watch cbb and listen to most coaches complain about the current landscape I’m not confident things change that much. No accountability from players who get guaranteed money or can easily transfer. Like Painter said it’s like dating in middle school.

Kind of why need a core of players who want to play for XYZ, no matter what.  Indiana guys like Leal, Goode, and from what I hear, Sisley.  Then supplement them with portal transfers to fill in needs and upgraded talent where necessary.  Find guys who understand that it's about the team, and the money stuff will take care of itself if the team is successful.  

[ziggyiu]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Woodson won’t be here next year. I think that’s a given. But,  if you watch cbb and listen to most coaches complain about the current landscape I’m not confident things change that much. No accountability from players who get guaranteed money or can easily transfer. Like Painter said it’s like dating in middle school.

There are a lot of teams with a lot of transfers getting great NIL money and playing hard. 

IU's situation is about it's own terrible culture, not the current landscape of college sports. 

[hoosierbannerd]

8 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

I’m sure I’m not the only one but I’m ready for this season to be over and it’s January. Woodson and some other fans can tell me to go find another program but I really just have no heart for this program this season. Maybe if an interim took over I would watch with the idea of hope of getting a couple wins. Then again you don’t want an interim to kill it or they might be considered for the job. Personally if Woodson was back next year I probably wouldn’t even bother investing a minute to watching. Everything is toxic it makes me mad/upset. I never believed in Woodson and I’m ready for Indiana to be able to shoot the 3 ball again and play defense. 

If they can Woody and have an interim, I would probably actually watch the rest of this season just to see how these guys react to a different voice and knowing the interim will only be that for the remainder of the season. I don't think SD will f*ck up this next hire...

[OKHOOSIER]

9 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Woodson won’t be here next year. I think that’s a given. But,  if you watch cbb and listen to most coaches complain about the current landscape I’m not confident things change that much. No accountability from players who get guaranteed money or can easily transfer. Like Painter said it’s like dating in middle school.

I think there are still plenty of kids who want to be coached hard. I also think that most if not all have dreams of playing in the NBA or overseas.  They know they need to work and to be coached to reach those types of goals. What we are seeing a team that has taken on the identity of the coaching staff IMO. Lethargic, disorganized, and generally not having any fun in systems they know set them up for failure. I have softened my views considerably on the players as this has gone on. They all show flashes of what they were advertised to be/skill sets, but all of them (including Ballo) are being mismanaged in one way or another. That final play was microcosm of our team under Woody. 

Our problems go far beyond player accountability and lack of contracts, but I agree with you that needs to be addressed by college sports as a whole. 

[TadQueasy]

1 hour ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I was actually struck by how gently Luke turned him around and put his arm around him. It seemed very "get grandpa moving in the right direction" as apposed to "come on coach do the right thing."  I don't know, probably reading too much into it, but if you watch at how quickly Woody acquiesced and how gently he turned him around, it felt like more about taking care of him than Woody deliberately shunning the handshake line. Either way, its all just sad. The program is sad. 

I went back and rewatched it.  This is very true in regard to Woody.   It really appeared that he was confused and Goode had to help him out. But what about the assistant coach he turns around before that?   That had nothing to do with anything like that.  

 

[Hornsby]

It’s heartbreaking to watch this happening right before our eyes. An IU legend being booed, mocked and dragged - by his own right or not - is saddening. I’m as guilty as anyone, but how can we fans be blamed? The University created this mess. 
 
I was not even around when Woodson played, but I know how painfully terrible this is. Why does our University make things so much harder for itself? Tradition is obviously big at Indiana, but why have they allowed us to get away from it as far as product on the court for as long as we have? I have so many questions and most are culture/process-centric. 

Well it may be but Woodson and certain people created this. He could of left after two years if he was the bridge he claimed he was. But these guys are arrogant and I'm convinced they simply don't want to admit they made a mistake. It's why hiring a former player is always a very risky venture. Especially when they never coached college. It is what it is now.

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[WeeDerkaNaut]

52 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

Which goes back to my theory that he knew something was off about Woody but helping his friend was more important... bringing in Matta to help him get acclimated to college ball? I call bulls*it...

Would I be wrong in saying that would be embezzlement/fraud? If he knew something was off and forced the hire anyway just seems really shady to me.

[cleeter]

Dolson needs to walk in Woody’s office tomorrows and go

“Okay Mike, we all know this is over. Here is the two options.
1. By 12Noon on Tuesday, you announce that you are stepping down/retiring at the end of the season
Or
2. I will make my own announcement at 12Noon Tuesday and my decision will be be effective immediately. So either save what dignity and face you have with this university, or you’ll be escorted out”

That’s my dream.


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[Hornsby]

Would I be wrong in saying that would be embezzlement/fraud? If he knew something was off and forced the hire anyway just seems really shady to me.

Quinn knew this was his last shot and getting him in and took it. It's odd though though a booster paid Archie's buyout so you would have expected a much more serious search. But guys like hillman and even aj guyton were screaming to hire iu guy so quinn pounced. Probably wasn't the iu guy they had hoped for.

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[Hornsby]

No it just proves money can't make a bad coach better.

https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1883593888029720584

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

On 1/25/2025 at 7:46 PM, JerryYeagley23 said:

In my opinion you’re missing a few, but either way I wouldn’t want to be pitching against UNC because they’re likely looking for a home run hire of their own if it came to that. 

North Carolina with a Bruce Pearl or Chris Beard would be terrifying.

[ap2345]

1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

North Carolina with a Bruce Pearl or Chris Beard would be terrifying.

I think people would be surprised by what UNC would do. That said Hubert will get another year.

[IUrocker]

Hopefully we hear some more news of things that could happen today. Anxious to see if anything else comes of what Chris said about major donors having enough. Fridays game at Purdue, will definitely make the team/Woodson a laughing stock. 

[Pagoda]

6 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

Hopefully we hear some more news of things that could happen today. Anxious to see if anything else comes of what Chris said about major donors having enough. Fridays game at Purdue, will definitely make the team/Woodson a laughing stock. 

It would be fun to have an interim coach that could maybe get a performance out of our $6M roster.  This team can be better (duh!).  If we stick with Woody we're toast.

Interesting the donors that probably backed Woody after last season now want a change.  Our donors are idiots, they need to stop meddling because they have no idea what they're doing.  Just send the checks and shut up.

[Papacap]

I’m now on the side that if optics is playing a role, and he is for sure gone, then now is a perfect time. I don’t know anyone personally who would be surprised or upset if he was fired. But letting him stay opens the possibility that IU squeaks into the tourney or wins some games against good teams. Then optics may get dicey. No reason to risk that.