They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Chris007]

Just now, IUrocker said:

So you think after tonight’s game there will be an interim for the rest of the season regardless of the outcome, which is why you said just get through tonight? Dang that’d be great. 

I have not heard of a timetable yet but yes I think there is a good chance of that. I don't think Woodson will coach at home again. I think the rumors are true and there is a plan going forward after tonight. 

[Kentuckysucks]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I could get behind that

I'd make Walsh and Hulls co head coaches to finish the season.  Although I know IU would never do such a thing after firing the King with Ya, Hunter, and Hill still around because...optics.

[maharkn]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I could get behind that

Let each of them have the scout and thats what they focus on so they won't have a ton on their plate.

[MikeRoberts]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

It’s not holier than thou, it’s making sure we don’t bring someone into our community who has shown themselves to have a problem with drinking, making poor choices, and becoming violent… 

Are you taking about Beard or Woody?

[Shooter]

29 minutes ago, Crazy about IU said:

I agree with you. But not to many people who don’t have some ugly baggage. Knight who I love was far from perfect. I would expect him with open arms. Let who has not committed a sin cast the first stone.

Pretty sure I've never beat the crap out of my wife, so I'm plenty happy to cast the first stone here. You guys are acting like he got a speeding ticket

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I'd make Walsh and Hulls co head coaches to finish the season.  Although I know IU would never do such a thing after firing the King with Ya, Hunter, and Hill still around because...optics.

Walsh is the lowest assistant and Jordy just don't have any experience. I do think Jordy will move up when Kenya takes over

[maharkn]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

There’s already a guy on staff that has experience as a D1 head coach.

 

 

;)

I wonder how many energy drinks it would take for him to stay awake for an entire game 

[Artie86]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I have not heard of a timetable yet but yes I think there is a good chance of that. I don't think Woodson will coach at home again. I think the rumors are true and there is a plan going forward after tonight. 

I will be honest with you Chris, I don't think I would want to coach again at home either. It will most likely be a bloodbath from the fans....that's just me.

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I have not heard of a timetable yet but yes I think there is a good chance of that. I don't think Woodson will coach at home again. I think the rumors are true and there is a plan going forward after tonight. 

My educated guess/take on the likely scenario?

Woody gets the first road game tonight. If it goes well (a win or a down to the last few minutes loss) he coaches the NW game. If we get blown out tonight it’s over before NW or if we lose both by any amount it’s over after NW.

Absent two really good showings I don’t see how he coaches the home game against Maryland.

[Demo]

39 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I kind of disagree.  Sometimes you need less chiefs and more indians.  If you can find a place for him to fit, having a guy like that is a net plus.  

Oh, for sure. There are great career assistants and they’re gold. Norm Roberts is a perfect example. But they better be relentless workers who help create that culture of work and I don’t think he’s that, though obviously Woody doesn’t exactly contribute to that either. Calbert story: When he was on Crews’ staff at SLU, Crews would actually make fun of him in press conferences. Stuff like, “Can’t believe I’m here talking to you guys and Calbert’s already home.”  Obviously he was kidding, but that always stuck with me. 

[AZ Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, Shooter said:

The ironic thing about Mgbako liking that tweet -

Woodson giving Mgbako some bench time recently for poor effort and shot selection is actually one of my favorite coaching moves he has made.

After almost 4 years, even Woodson was bound to get one right eventually. 

[IUCrazy2]

17 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

I don't feel like anyone on this board has the connections to comment on Beard's current drinking habits. Hell, there's only a few people on this board who even have legit connections in IU. If you don't like him because of his "baggage", good for you. I'm to the point where I'm willing to take some baggage in exchange for success. Don't kid yourself, there are plenty of people up on a soapbox right now about his baggage but would shut up real quick if he made a deep tournament run. Stevens is 1A and Beard is 1B, after that you've got your pick of relative unknowns with "promise".

He doesn't have a little baggage.  He has an anchors worth.  She dropped the charges but he beat her up, choked her, left bruises and bite marks on her.  That isn't a "little drinking problem", that is a massive, "After 25 years of **** show you are taking a huge risk that I am going to do something that ends all of your careers, brings a really bad light on the University, and gets me fired" type of decision.

They will have pictures of what he did to that woman and will be laying them in front of a female President and saying, "This should be our guy....trust me."  It isn't happening.  The chance of that is likely less than the chance of them reanimating Bob Knight and hiring him.

[IUrocker]

I wonder if some of the players have made it to the point where they don’t care about winning these next couple games if it means Woody will be out the door. Maybe they aren’t on board with Woody anymore and have packed it in…I mean heck, Mackenzie liked a post that said “Fire Woodson”, haha. They have just been playing like they don’t give a crap at all lately (more so than normal). If this ends up being Woodson’s last game if they play poorly enough, they have to know that right? 

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

After almost 4 years, even Woodson was bound to get one right eventually. 

Like Mr. Magoo finally finding a staircase.

[Stuhoo]

Just now, IUCrazy2 said:

He doesn't have a little baggage.  He has an anchors worth.  She dropped the charges but he beat her up, choked her, left bruises and bite marks on her.  That isn't a "little drinking problem", that is a massive, "After 25 years of **** show you are taking a huge risk that I am going to do something that ends all of your careers, brings a really bad light on the University, and gets me fired" type of decision.

They will have pictures of what he did to that woman and will be laying them in front of a female President and saying, "This should be our guy....trust me."  It isn't happening.  The chance of that is likely less than the chance of them reanimating Bob Knight and hiring him.

Pretty compelling case you just made here. Helluva good coach, but a pretty compelling case against him given there are many, many good coaches.

[AZ Hoosier]

16 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

You can't hire him, institute a zero tolerance policy, and then be surprised when he continues to do what he's always done. Do what you can to minimize it (e.g., give him a full-time driver) and keep it out of the public.

A zero tolerance policy would do more harm than good because then you have to enforce it when he inevitably screws up.

I'd also be inclined to hire him, but that could change if I learned the severity of the alcoholism / domestic abuse is worse than what we know.

 

I'm on the record of being against even considering Beard... and I know that zero tolerance is at best a placebo... my post was very much tongue-in-cheek. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[LamarCheeks]

All these posts speculating that a midseason change is coming ... 

Such visceral reactions, wholly based on emotions. 

In no way, shape or form does that follow the process. 

Folks -- it's a linear journey, with a rigid proscribed set of waypoints, leading, without exception, to a logical and predictable conclusion. 

[Pagoda]

Just now, LamarCheeks said:

All these posts speculating that a midseason change is coming. 

Such visceral reactions, wholly based on emotions. 

In no way, shape or form does that follow the process. 

Folks, it's a linear journey, with a rigid proscribed set of waypoints, leading, without exception, to a logical and predictable conclusion. 

This is not even a January action item!!!

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

I wonder if some of the players have made it to the point where they don’t care about winning these next couple games if it means Woody will be out the door. Maybe they aren’t on board with Woody anymore and have packed it in…I mean heck, Mackenzie liked a post that said “Fire Woodson”, haha. They have just been playing like they don’t give a crap at all lately (more so than normal). If this ends up being Woodson’s last game if they play poorly enough, they have to know that right? 

 

Jimmy Chitwood Mgbako he ain’t 

 

[12345Brad]

19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I have not heard of a timetable yet but yes I think there is a good chance of that. I don't think Woodson will coach at home again. I think the rumors are true and there is a plan going forward after tonight. 

If this is the case, I can actually see the troops rallying and iu wins 

 

(or loses by 24)