They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[tomallenfan1]

My only question on Jerry’s update is are the assistants aware that they are essentially on 1-year deals unless they have a miraculous run to the Final Four? As an assistant, that wouldn’t sit well with me, if true.

[RoncalliHoosier]

1 hour ago, steubenhoosier said:

So, which is it for you?

You constantly disparage “ old timers” for living in the past about a game that in your opinion has passed them by.

Yet you try to make a point using something from over 20 years ago.

I am ready for a coaching change, just like the majority on here. But the reaches some of you guys make to try and validate your position are really weak 

C'mon, man. Give it a rest. 

[RoncalliHoosier]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Yes, your response to the post you quoted makes no sense. 

Stop feeding the troll.

[Shooter]

With all due respect, Mike Woodson (the coach) has not earned the right to dictate his own terms. He's accomplished very little as the head coach of Indiana - one trip to the second round. This is not a Jim Boeheim situation, with a coach slipping off at the end of a Hall of Fame career.

It feels like Woodson will be retained as the IU head coach because he was a great player here 45 years ago. The same reason he was hired in the first place.

[Hoosier DaDa]

48 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

So, maybe it’s time to shut down this thread until early next year 

NO

[DChoosier]

So they have basically fired Woodson but effective next year?!?!
WTF.

Nothing says incompetent more than willfully agreeing to endure another poor season while also being willing to negatively impact recruiting for the next 2 seasons.

The administration has to exit the echo chamber of “we must tread lightly with Woody” and look at the big picture. At this point they are on the verge of taking the worst path possible (other than extending him). 

[hoopsta007]

1 minute ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

NO

It’s time to do our part as fans and get after these players in the portal on social media so they don’t want to come here and force a move to be made.  After all,  we are told that we have that control and we are the problem right? (Post is sarcasm.  Not really advocating for social media stalking recruits like Hoosier Hysterics)

[RoncalliHoosier]

1 hour ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

- Dolson laid out expectations for portal results and win/loss results next season that would result in letting Woody go; just my opinion but it sounds like Buckner, boosters, etc. got him the 4th year but Scotty Dolson has his finger on the eject button and Woodson knows it. Fully expect him to announce a "planned retirement" next year so he can go out on his "own terms"

Thanks for sharing. Do you have the sense that if Woodson fails to build a competitive team via the portal (gaping holes like this year) they could end him early? Given the tons of the Scotts and Cook's money, it might actually happen, but just curious. I have some real concerns about what players would be willing to come play in his "system", so could that still end with him being dismissed? 

[RoncalliHoosier]

56 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

So, maybe it’s time to shut down this thread until early next year 

Ok, bye,

[theriverpilot]

2 minutes ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

Thanks for sharing. Do you have the sense that if Woodson fails to build a competitive team via the portal (gaping holes like this year) they could end him early? Given the tons of the Scotts and Cook's money, it might actually happen, but just curious. I have some real concerns about what players would be willing to come play in his "system", so could that still end with him being dismissed? 

Jerry did say earlier that a poor portal haul could move the needle

[RoncalliHoosier]

49 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Then all we have to do is get some stooge to get him to grab his arm....or find someone willing to say he grabbed his arm?

Just gotta run into him in a semi-public setting and ask "Hey, what's up Woodson?"

[spe317]

6 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

Jerry did say earlier that a poor portal haul could move the needle

I read that as, a poor portal haul will definitely make last year the last year. No freaking way they can him mid-season or even pre-season. Unless they can fabricate an immediate health step down. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Nothing inspires hope with Woodson. Besides the supposed warchest of NIL we’ve got nothing.

Oh well!


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[RaceToTheTop]

26 minutes ago, tomallenfan1 said:

My only question on Jerry’s update is are the assistants aware that they are essentially on 1-year deals unless they have a miraculous run to the Final Four? As an assistant, that wouldn’t sit well with me, if true.

Yes, except it's pretty good pay for a year and a year to make connections for the next year.

I would say that if this the route IU is going, I would expect that we'll be looking at not just this season making our team up from the portal but the next season as well.  Even if 2025 recruits were to commit to IU good chance they decommit on a coaching change.

Think I'll be out of the thread for awhile.  Woodson isn't getting fired this year and I'm already in the acceptance phase of that.  Just hope for the best in the portal and that the playing style picks up next year.

[rcbowla]

1 hour ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Put a team together that looks like it has a reasonable chance to compete next year. If we straight up strike out in the portal, with the resources we have, I think it will be seen as an indictment on Woody and players wanting to play for him and in his system. 

Which means we go into next season as 90% of fans expected but it's considered ok? Seems moronic to expect a coach who has proven nothing except under-delivering to deliver. I'm sorry but I don't buy the premise that all of this is based on "1 more year to show you guys". If they're all in on Woody now, I don't see that changing next year. And if I'm wrong they are the dumbest group of individuals to run a major business I've ever seen....that includes the company I work for which, while I've never met, are presumably the bottom of the barrel stupid.

[Hornsby]

100%. They care more about massaging Mike Woodson’s enormous ego than they do winning basketball games. 

Basically we know you aren't the guy but you get another year anyway. Unreal.

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[rcbowla]

1 hour ago, 8bucks said:

If he struggles during portal season could a move this year be made?

Makes no sense. Bring in a HC to carry the torch that won't light?

[Bankshot]

So, in the BoT’s “wisdom”, the chosen path to success is to try to get an incredible level of talented players who are willing to take money to play in a terrible system under a mediocre coach, then somehow overachieve and perform at an elite or championship level. Which would require Woodson to suddenly do everything he has failed to do in three years. Then, even if it were miraculously successful, it would be completely unsustainable. Or, if it’s not successful, they’ll fire him later for the same things they’ve already decided he deserves to be fired for now, they’re just not ready to do it yet.

As opposed to making a change now and getting a coach who has the skills and experience to get started now, and do this in a proven and more successful way.

Sounds like a great plan… what could go wrong?

God help us…these people don’t know what the ______ they are doing, IMO.

 

[RoncalliHoosier]

9 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Yes, except it's pretty good pay for a year and a year to make connections for the next year.

I would say that if this the route IU is going, I would expect that we'll be looking at not just this season making our team up from the portal but the next season as well.  Even if 2025 recruits were to commit to IU good chance they decommit on a coaching change.

Think I'll be out of the thread for awhile.  Woodson isn't getting fired this year and I'm already in the acceptance phase of that.  Just hope for the best in the portal and that the playing style picks up next year.

Do you think they would decommit if IU changed coaches from Woodson to Pearl? To Dusty? To Otzelberger? There's a good chance they stay. The issue that I see is Woodson getting near them with a 10-foot pole.

But I agree that keeping Woodson with the scenario that @JerryYeagley23 reported means that we have at least TWO years of dumpster fire to look forward to. What is Woodson's inducement to not leave the 2025-26 cupboard completely empty? He hasn't done squat recruiting for 2024-25 and he will most likely be coaching. Why would he even bother with 2025-26 for someone else?

[rcbowla]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

On a positive note for IU men’s basketball (I know there is a positive thread) though there were so many blow out losses; 1. If IU could have won 6  more conference games = 25 game win season including 16 conference wins and 2.  IU could beat some of the teams in the March Madness tournament….it makes more sense now.

Check out his history....nope. Next candidate