Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA... Forever and Ever, Amen!

[Hovadipo]

12 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

For people like myself, with really no knowledge of the candidates why Candle?  I don’t want to sound argumentative but I don’t want to go down the CAM road.  He has been there a lot of years and he’s still there correct?  
 

It feels like for me, and I just know what has been presented in this thread, I would prefer Herman by a wide margin followed by Chryst.

There is zero reason to compare Candle to Archie. The differences between running a football program and basketball program are too vast. On the surface there may be similarities, but none that would actually matter once he hypothetically steps on campus. He may come here and suck, but the reasons would be far from Archie’s. 

[Lebowski]

I'm starting to wonder if that 6-9 million dollar amount mentioned here is the total amount for both HC and assistant coaches? Just to put things into perspective, I did some searching for 2023 salaries of the Big Ten schools and here's what I've found. Source

The dollar amount in parenthesis is the total amount allocated to assistant coach salaries. I could not find any info on PSU assistant coach salaries for some reason. I've included next year's schools as well. Both Northwestern and USC are private schools so their salaries are unknown. 

Ryan Day, Ohio State: $10,196,250  ($9,826,500)
Mel Tucker, Michigan State: $10,015,350 (5,950,000)
James Franklin, Penn State: $8,500,000 
Jim Harbaugh, Michigan: $8,194,000 ($6,462,250)
Luke Fickell, Wisconsin: $7,625,000 ($5,400,000)
Kirk Ferentz, Iowa: $7,000,000 ($5,330,000)
Dan Lanning, Oregon: $6,624,999 ($6,815,000)
Bret Bielema, Illinois: $6,500,000 ($5,697,000)
P.J. Fleck, Minnesota: $6,000,000 ($4,633,000)
Chip Kelly, UCLA: $5,979,167 ($4,945,000)
Matt Rhule, Nebraska: $5,500,000 ($5,515,000)
Mike Locksley, Maryland: $5,500,000 ($5,075,000)
Tom Allen, Indiana: $4,510,000 ($4,885,000)
Kalen DeBoer, Washington: $4,200,000 ($7,525,068)
Ryan Walters, Purdue: $4,000,000 ($4,915,000)
Greg Schiano, Rutgers: $4,000,000 ($5,081,034)
David Braun, Northwestern: unknown
Lincoln Riley, USC: unknown
 

IUFB's salaries seemed to be a bit off because after Bell was let go Osterman wrote an article saying Carey was earning $815k annually. So I'm not sure how accurate these are but it does provide you a bird's eye view of the conference money allocation. Overall IUFB is at the bottom of the barrel with both HC and assistant salaries. 

I was surprised to see DeBoer's salary so low. He's also paying his OC $2mil, which I believe was the highest paid coordinator in the conference. I wonder if that assistant pool is also part of DeBoer's own salary, much like what Allen did for Bell?

[Aguas]

I really hope it is Curt Cignetti. Amazing record and looks like he isn’t daunted from a challenging situation. Only make $700k or so. Pay the man and let’s get going. If not, then Tom Herman. 

[OGIUAndy]

27 minutes ago, hper50 said:

Just kidding :) more applauding the Chatard/Doyle reference than disapproving of the candidates!

I know, I was just messing around. 

[rcbowla]

Weaver just updated that Mike Hart is interviewing right now. Boy, he's never called plays, or been an OC or HC. 

This would be awful. And I like Mike Hart in any other role besides HC at IU.

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[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, IndyResident16 said:

Lol those changes are out of his control. Fitz has zero say in NU's admission requirements or their selectiveness in undergrad transfers. 

Put Fitz in a program without rigorous admission and academic requirements and he can be as good as anybody. He's going to coach again somewhere and be very successful. 

He may go to the bears.  :)

[OGIUAndy]

8 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

He may go to the bears.  :)

Yeah, no thanks. 

[iubb]

Mark Cuban as next coach


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[Chris007]

1 hour ago, IU - Kaulie said:

For people like myself, with really no knowledge of the candidates why Candle?  I don’t want to sound argumentative but I don’t want to go down the CAM road.  He has been there a lot of years and he’s still there correct?  
 

It feels like for me, and I just know what has been presented in this thread, I would prefer Herman by a wide margin followed by Chryst.

Herman is my first choice but Candle would be second. Candle is only 44, been a head coach for 12 years, 8 at Toledo. He’s never had a losing season, he calls his own plays, he can bring his staff, maybe his QB. He can recruit the Midwest well especially Ohio. Seems like someone to roll the dice with.

[IU - Kaulie]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Herman is my first choice but Candle would be second. Candle is only 44, been a head coach for 12 years, 8 at Toledo. He’s never had a losing season, he calls his own plays, he can bring his staff, maybe his QB. He can recruit the Midwest well especially Ohio. Seems like someone to roll the dice with.

I appreciate the insight.  Thank you.  I guess my question is he has been there a long time with really good success but why is he still there and why hasn’t he been scooped up already if he is so hot?

[GoIU8]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Herman is my first choice but Candle would be second. Candle is only 44, been a head coach for 12 years, 8 at Toledo. He’s never had a losing season, he calls his own plays, he can bring his staff, maybe his QB. He can recruit the Midwest well especially Ohio. Seems like someone to roll the dice with.

Is Herman actually a choice though? I don't think I've seen him anywhere as being a candidate.

[Chris007]

9 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I appreciate the insight.  Thank you.  I guess my question is he has been there a long time with really good success but why is he still there and why hasn’t he been scooped up already if he is so hot?

Hopefully he’s been picky and waiting for the right opportunity. Not sure that’s IU. I believe I read he’s turned down some jobs. But Syracuse & Duke are interested in him.

[IUrocker]

15 minutes ago, GoIU8 said:

Is Herman actually a choice though? I don't think I've seen him anywhere as being a candidate.

If you think about it, the point you just made could indeed mean that he is. 

He could be someone not on the list of possible smokescreens. 

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, GoIU8 said:

Is Herman actually a choice though? I don't think I've seen him anywhere as being a candidate.

I think so. A poster earlier Hoosier22 said we had made contact. I don’t think we know of everybody we’ve talked to.

[hper50]

https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1729648507034759400?s=46&t=yrIfjah3YHXFXMg7RVGwig

Simply pay Nick Saban $50M/year 

[Scotty R]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Hopefully he’s been picky and waiting for the right opportunity. Not sure that’s IU. I believe I read he’s turned down some jobs. But Syracuse & Duke are interested in him.

Syracuse has hired the DB coach from Georgia 

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Syracuse has hired the DB coach from Georgia 

Yes that’s right. 

[GoIU8]

So Syracuse hires a position coach who has never been a HC or Coordinator. Scott Dolson, do NOT take notes. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by GoIU8

[Golfman25]

55 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

Yeah, no thanks. 

Can't be any worse than the last 2 guys.  :) 

[go iu bb]

1 minute ago, GoIU8 said:

So Syracuse his a position coach who has never been a HC or Coordinator. Scott Dolson, do NOT take notes. 

Syracuse isn't exactly a great football school. Better than IU because everyone is, but certainly not someone IU should be emulating.