Golfman25 Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, T White said: They were actually from JUCO's I think. Yes. Jam 1 Quote
Southside Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Johnson, Stewart, plus our youth. I like it. FrenchConnection, Hoosierfanyuh and VO5 3 Quote
Dave from Dayton Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) Well, it sure has been a very interesting week in this basketball off-season. I'm glad for the coach change. Happy that the majority of the players came back from the transfer portal. Pleasantly surprised Race is back...love his effort and rebounds. Goodbye Al, and good luck. Goodbye Armaan, good luck. Lots of questions remaining. Seems the problem at PG is partially answered, I hope. Xavier Johnson seems to be a scrapper that can create and likes contact. Here is an article about Xavier Johnson leaving Pitt with games remaining: https://www.cardiachill.com/2021/2/24/22299274/xavier-johnson-pitt-panthers-basketball-leaving-program-enter-transfer-portal-jeff-capel-point-guard So, XJ doesn't shoot the 3 with efficiency, can create with his quick moves, likes to have the ball, can and will go to the hoop and likes contact. As a freshman and sophomore he turned over the ball a lot, but the numbers are trending down and he handles the ball a lot. He also seems to have a penchant for talking to the refs and getting T'd. And leaving the team with games to play is, on one level, a bad look. Well, IU coaches know what they are getting. It will work out. Welcome XJ, good luck. Lets get some shooters. Or develop them over this summer. Edited April 9, 2021 by Dave from Dayton Hutch89 and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
str8baller Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave from Dayton said: Well, it sure has been a very interesting week in this basketball off-season. I'm glad for the coach change. Happy that the majority of the players came back from the transfer portal. Pleasantly surprised Race is back...love his effort and rebounds. Goodbye Al, and good luck. Goodbye Armaan, good luck. Lots of questions remaining. Seems the problem at PG is partially answered, I hope. Xavier Johnson seems to be a scrapper that can create and likes contact. Here is an article about Xavier Johnson leaving Pitt with games remaining: https://www.cardiachill.com/2021/2/24/22299274/xavier-johnson-pitt-panthers-basketball-leaving-program-enter-transfer-portal-jeff-capel-point-guard So, XJ doesn't shoot the 3 with efficiency, can create with his quick moves, likes to have the ball, can and will go to the hoop and likes contact. As a freshman and sophomore he turned over the ball a lot, but the numbers are trending down and he handles the ball a lot. He also seems to have a penchant for talking to the refs and getting T'd. And leaving the team with games to play is, on one level, a bad look. Well, IU coaches know what they are getting. It will work out. Welcome XJ, good luck. Lets get some shooters. Or develop them over this summer. That’s not the type of player I’m usually excited about. With that said, we probably can use the talent infusion and we’ll have to trust the staff to integrate everyone. Sad to lose Franklin especially to a good program like UVA. Dave from Dayton 1 Quote
Bobman1 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 One big theme I thought was interesting in these XJ articles, is that he was on the ACC-All Freshman team with huge names (Zion, RJ, Coby) and hasn’t amounted to that level yet. I think the talent is still there and he needs a couple teammates and a Coach to push him to that level. Would be nice to see him develop into the NBA and it’d look great for Woody. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
rcbowla Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 So I've watched 2 full games of his from this past season and came away very underwhelmed. One of the games I watched he had 5 TO's and I do not kid you when I say it should've been 10 or more. I see he has a quick first step and is aggressive but he is very TO prone, too aggressive on D at times and is not a good shooter. Makes FT's though. 2 words that I'd use to summarize what I saw in these 2 games are "aggressively inefficient". Guess I'll watch a couple more but not sure he's the savior many are hoping he'll be. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk cybergates, WayneFleekHoosier and IUc2016 2 1 Quote
IUc2016 Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 So I've watched 2 full games of his from this past season and came away very underwhelmed. One of the games I watched he had 5 TO's and I do not kid you when I say it should've have been 10 or more. I see he has a quick first step and is aggressive but he is very TO prone, too aggressive on D at times and is not a good shooter. Makes FT's though. 2 words that I'd use to summarize what I saw in these 2 games are "aggressively inefficient Guess I'll watch a couple more but not sure he's the savior many are hoping he'll be. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using TapatalkI am not as high on this pick up as most so I agree with you. I hope I am wrong Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app rcbowla 1 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted April 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 I think we have to adjust to what best offense looks like. The current IU offense had been largely run by Phinisee, who was low turnover, low activity in Archie’s system. X is so much more aggressive and will have IU fans bunching up their collective undies with lots of mistakes. He will also blow by defenders on a regular basis. Remember Troy Williams? He’s now playing point for us! And having a Troy Williams type at point will generate a TON of offense when the day is done, even when the mistakes are factored in. You guys wanted a real change from Archie ball, right?!? kottke, Hoosierfan2017, Crimson and Cream and 21 others 23 1 Quote
rcbowla Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 I think we have to adjust to what best offense looks like. The current IU offense had been largely run by Phinisee, who was low turnover, low activity in Archie’s system. X is so much more aggressive and will have IU fans bunching up their collective undies with lots of mistakes. He will also blow by defenders on a regular basis. Remember Troy Williams? He’s now playing point for us! And having a Troy Williams type at point will generate a TON of offense when the day is done, even when the mistakes are factored in. You guys wanted a real change from Archie ball, right?!? Troy Williams at PG would have been awful. Let's hope it's not like that at all. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Hutch89, T White, moyemayhem and 1 other 4 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 11, 2021 Author Posted April 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, rcs29 said: Troy Williams at PG would have been awful. Let's hope it's not like that at all. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk That’s not the point. Shaq in his prime at point guard would also have been awful. The point is that very aggressive players make a lot of mistakes, but they also make a lot of great things happen. Bobman1, go iu bb, FightFor6 and 1 other 4 Quote
Banksyrules Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: That’s not the point. Shaq in his prime at point guard would also have been awful. The point is that very aggressive players make a lot of mistakes, but they also make a lot of great things happen. Depends on the type of mistakes. Troy’s mistakes led to easy baskets because no one was back to defend. If turnovers happen but we get back on D, I can live with it to a certain extent. Quote
rcbowla Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 That’s not the point. Shaq in his prime at point guard would also have been awful. The point is that very aggressive players make a lot of mistakes, but they also make a lot of great things happen.Yes that is true to a point. Some aggressive players are like Yogi Ferrell and some are like Devonte Green. Both made great things happen but one made a lot more great things happen and had less boneheaded things happen. I guess time will tell which XJ is closer to.Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk T White, IUc2016 and Stuhoo 3 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 No doubt in my mind whatsoever that if Johnson isn't getting the job done to Woody's satisfaction he'll be on the bench. One of my biggest gripes with Archie was his talk about players was rarely ever backed up by coaching decisions. I'm confident that ain't gonna happen with Woody in control. T White, thebigweave, kottke and 3 others 6 Quote
MemphisHoosier Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 From Jerry Meyer's Mailbag... What’s the impact of Xavier Johnson on IUMBB? Jeremy Lee @IUFan1234 Expecting a big impact. Xavier Johnson has a commanding presence on the court on the court as a versatile and physical player who can create scoring opportunities for himself and his teammates. Indiana needs a backcourt player like Johnson who can lead them with his mature and productive game. Over his three years at Pittsburgh, Johnson has averaged right at 14 points and five assists and 3.5 rebounds per game. He is a proven high level player who can elevate the level of play of the Hoosiers. https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Meyers-Mailbag-Xavier-Johnson-Davion-Mitchell-Jalen-Suggs-Cade-Cunningham-Indiana-Baylor-Gonzaga-Oklahoma-State-UCLA-163907053/ Hippopotamo, Stuhoo, pumpfake and 2 others 5 Quote
maharkn Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Troy Williams at PG would have been awful. Let's hope it's not like that at all. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using TapatalkWe saw a glimpse of that in the tournament game against kentuckySent from my SM-A515U1 using Tapatalk Quote
Bowhunter Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Xavier’s tourn-overs really concern me. His 3 point shot does as well. I hope he can tighten things up in the off season. This is not an even trade for losing Franklin. However, he is a nice trade for Al, who I was ready to replace. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners IUc2016 and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
Popular Post Brass Cannon Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: Xavier’s tourn-overs really concern me. His 3 point shot does as well. I hope he can tighten things up in the off season. This is not an even trade for losing Franklin. However, he is a nice trade for Al, who I was ready to replace. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners People are really overvaluing Franklin. He was a good player but he wasn’t some superstar. He had more turnovers than assists yet Xaviers turnovers concern you? I liked Franklin and wanted to keep him. But the only thing we could say about him was he was our best 3 point shooter and given how terrible we were at that not that impressive. FWHoosier84, WayneFleekHoosier, Dalton26 and 11 others 11 3 Quote
Hurryin' Hoosiers Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Xavier yapping at refs and not listening to his coach is a valid concern though. Hopefully woodson can get him to clean it up ALASKA HOOSIER, TucsonHoosier and T White 3 Quote
IUwins0708 Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, iuswingman said: Xavier yapping at refs and not listening to his coach is a valid concern though. Hopefully woodson can get him to clean it up Woodson has a good mix of old/new school. He will keep these guys under wraps as far as talking to refs go. Bobman1 and thebigweave 2 Quote
Popular Post Hoosierfan2017 Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: Xavier’s tourn-overs really concern me. His 3 point shot does as well. I hope he can tighten things up in the off season. This is not an even trade for losing Franklin. However, he is a nice trade for Al, who I was ready to replace. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Johnson is better than Franklin. The one thing Franklin is better at is shooting the 3. Franklin averaged 2.1 assists to 2.2 turnovers last season. Johnson averaged 5.7 assists to 3.3 turnovers a game. Johnson had a usage rate of 27.7% compared to 21.9% for Franklin. Johnson shot 79% from the line on 5 attempts a game compared to 74% on 2.5 attempts per game for Franklin. Johnson is a more aggressive player who is better at getting to the rim. You’re right that it’s not an even trade, but that is because our guy is better. Hippopotamo, thebigweave, Dalton26 and 6 others 9 Quote
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