Mike Woodson to be next IUBB coach. Thad Matta to be associate AD

[Indiana8585]

So NC State then hired a proven cheater (Gottfried), and now are treading water with Keats who hasn’t made the tourney the last three years. 
 

Plus Sidney lowe was 79-228 in five seasons in the nba, which isn’t even close to Woodson

[jimsorgi]

Just now, Indiana8585 said:

So NC State then hired a proven cheater (Gottfried), and now are treading water with Keats who hasn’t made the tourney the last three years. 
 

Plus Sidney lowe was 79-228 in five seasons in the nba, which isn’t even close to Woodson

If the difference between college Sidney Lowe and college Mike Woodson matches the difference between NBA Sidney Lowe and NBA Mike Woodson, I'll be thrilled for IU's future.

[Kentuckysucks]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

That post is so incredibly simplistic. Entire takeaway from your post "Sidney Lowe failed as a college coach." 

Mike Woodson is not Sidney Lowe. Woody may fail. He may succeed.

While we welcome fans of other teams here, condescension and passive-aggressive behavior ("so...good luck") from other teams' fans on our board will not do anything to make you a welcome guest

They hired the wrong alum. Should hire Archie.  He's the best.

[e1999doubleglock]

1 minute ago, jimsorgi said:

If the difference between college Sidney Lowe and college Mike Woodson matches the difference between NBA Sidney Lowe and NBA Mike Woodson, I'll be thrilled for IU's future.

And the great Jim Sorgi delivers an elbow drop from the top rope!

[Woodsonshump]

11 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Wtf does Sydney Lowe have to do with Mike Woodson? 

Because in the feeble, simpleton mindset, whatever happened somewhere else just has to happen at Indiana. They can't process it any other way.

[PB1230]

31 minutes ago, ViaSwiss said:

Thad Matta salary $400,000 per yr

I think this might make Matta one of the top 10 highest paid non heading coaching staffers and highest overall paid non assistant coach in all of college basketball

[go iu bb]

I wonder if that $400k Matta is making is a "transition cost" that the donor is ultimately paying.

[Capt. Crimson]

Capt. Crimson is on board with the Woodson hire. Capt. Crimson can't wait to see who we get as assistants. 

[Chris007]

Just now, Capt. Crimson said:

Capt. Crimson is on board with the Woodson hire. Capt. Crimson can't wait to see who we get as assistants. 

Good, we still have room in the Woodson wagon for you. 

[Ghost of Rick Majerus]

1 hour ago, Trish said:

 

Woody's reaction when he see's Rob, Kristian, and TJD shooting 3's in Cook Hall today. 

 

Thanks for this! It gave me a good laugh. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

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[AKHoosier]

23 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

That post is so incredibly simplistic. Entire takeaway from your post "Sidney Lowe failed as a college coach." 

Mike Woodson is not Sidney Lowe. Woody may fail. He may succeed.

While we welcome fans of other teams here, condescension and passive-aggressive behavior ("so...good luck") from other teams' fans on our board will not do anything to make you a welcome guest

Jesus, all the guy did was present a similar situation at NC State that should resonate here. 

Obviously he's not suggesting Mike Woodson is guaranteed to fail. However, so many fans are pointing to Woodson's NBA experience as proof he "can flat out coach" or whatever cliche you want to throw out there, when in Lowe's case that was clearly not the case.

Apparently presenting uncomfortable truths, or anything but unbridled enthusiasm for Mike Woodson gets you vilified around here.

It's possible to want him to succeed but also question the decision to hire him at the same time.

[PB1230]

 

[tyappleg]

2 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Jesus, all the guy did was present a similar situation at NC State that should resonate here. 

Obviously he's not suggesting Mike Woodson is guaranteed to fail. However, so many fans are pointing to Woodson's NBA experience as proof he "can flat out coach" or whatever cliche you want to throw out there, when in Lowe's case that was clearly not the case.

Apparently presenting uncomfortable truths, or anything but unbridled enthusiasm for Mike Woodson gets you vilified around here.

It's possible to want him to succeed but also question the decision to hire him at the same time.

The problem is its a terrible comparison. Sydney Lowe's NBA head coaching career isn't even close to Mike Woodson's.

[Hoosierfan222]

1 minute ago, PB1230 said:

 

Apparently Quinn has major issues with Alford... Curious what those are.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, Trish said:

 

MR DOLSON, YOU EARN POINTS FOR THIS. I LIKE IT! 

 

 

More details on the bonuses he can earn.

 

 

 

 

 

[jimsorgi]

Right. It's an apples-to-oranges, overly simplistic comparison. It's the equivalent of saying, "Mike Woodson is a surefire success because Juwan Howard has been great at Michigan."

There's plenty of nuanced conversation to be had about Woodson's strengths and flaws, and no one is overlooking that. But "Sidney Lowe struggled" is not a relevant part of that conversation.

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Apparently Quinn has major issues with Alford... Curious what those are.

Because Steve is not one of the best humans you're going to meet. IMO 

[Old Friend]

15 hours ago, Bowhunter said:

Old Friend, how do you feel about this hire?


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Hey, Bow.

At the risk of someone changing my answer spending 4 years blabbing about things I didn't say just so he can follow me around like a child and criticize me like he has nothing better to do....

I like it.   I talked to a friend last night who is very close to Butch Carter and by proxy Mike Woodson, and I know the IU basketball "family" is behind it.  That matters to me.  Woodson wants the job and won''t listen to any of the exterior BS.  He's not afraid of the task at hand, believes in player development and local recruiting.   I like all of that.   Archie wasn't willing to work a room or really change anything.   Woodson will be.

 If you take the names off the resumes, I love Matta and would stack his resume against, say Matt Painter's.    Woodson has 20+ years of NBA experience with teams that got better when he was the head coach.  Players  respect him and like him.  That matters.   A reality?  I wanted Brad Stevens.  He was the holy grail.   But on second thought and looking at it after stepping back, he really hasn't done anything Woodson hasn't done save coach in college successfully for a short time.   

Woodson played at Broad Ripple, played at Indiana, and played in the NBA for 10 years.  That will resonate w kids whether they have heard of him or not.   He may be the most under-rated player in the history of the Big Ten.  He was a 2000 point scorer in only 114 games at Indiana.   He was Big Ten player of the year having played just FIVE Big Ten games his senior year.   As Dakich said today, Woodson has dealt with the egos of Carmelo Anthony and Blake Griffin.  He can handle players' mommies.  The minutiae won't bother him.  Matta will help him with the ins and outs of running a college basketball program; and I think that combo will really be fun.

My opinion?  I think Indiana - shown by Matta w Woodson, are getting back to their own culture (no longer running it like a mid major), and at the same time, running IU men's basketball like a top tier basketball program for the first time in 21 years.   I see a whole lot of questioning and doubt above; and I had it too at first reaction.    Having had some time to think about it, I really like it and think he deserves this shot.  The "family" will now be united and that can do nothing but help.    

Edit :  Bob Kravitz doesn't like it which means I love it.    He and so many others are so damned unable to look beneath the surface.  Why journalism guys like he and Zac Osterman (whose experience is playing Madden and NCAA Basketball on XBox) are asked for their input on sports.   I digress..

[Jam]

2 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Hey, Bow.

At the risk of someone changing my answer spending 4 years blabbing about things I didn't say just so he can follow me around and criticize me like a child....

I like it.   I talked to a friend last night who is very close to Butch Carter and by proxy Mike Woodson, and I know the IU basketball "family" is behind it.  That matters to me.  Woodson wants the job and won''t listen to any of the exterior BS.  He's not afraid of the task at hand, believes in player development and local recruiting.   I like all of that.   Archie wasn't willing to work a room or really change anything.   Woodson will be.

 If you take the names off the resumes, I love Matta and would stack his resume against, say Matt Painter's.    Woodson has 20+ years of NBA experience with teams that got better when he was the head coach.  Players kids have heard of respect him and like him.  That matters.   A reality?  I wanted Brad Stevens.  He was the holy grail.   But on second thought and looking at it after stepping back, he really hasn't done anything Woodson hasn't done save coach in college successfully for a short time.   

Woodson played at Broad Ripple, played at Indiana, and played in the NBA for 10 years.   He may be the most under-rated player in the history of the Big Ten.  He was a 2000 point scorer in only 114 games at Indiana.   He was Big Ten player of the year having played just FIVE Big Ten games his senior year.   As Dakich said today, Woodson has dealt with the egos of Carmelo Anthony and Blake Griffin.  He can handle players' mommies.  The minutiae won't bother him.  Matta will help him with the ins and outs of running a college basketball program; and I think that combo will really be fun.

My opinion?  I think Indiana - shown by Matta w Woodson, are getting back to their own culture (no longer running it like a mid major), and at the same time, running IU men's basketball like a top tier basketball program for the first time in 21 years.   I see a whole lot of questioning and doubt above; and I had it too at first reaction.    Having had some time to think about it, I really like it and think he deserves this shot.  The "family" will now be united and that can do nothing but help.    

If I could write that well, I could’ve written this.