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[Uspshoosier]

11 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

If he has a deep tourney run I think somebody will.

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Maybe 

[jumpshot53]

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Only Beard and his then fiancée know what happened that night. Was it a one time thing? Was this something he’s done before? Is he the stereotypical 1950s partner who slaps his partner around when his dinner is a few minutes late? We don’t know. Sometimes relationships are toxic and people do regrettable, uncharacteristic things in them. I think I read on here that his partner also had a past history of DV, but I could be mistaken. It’s not hard to imagine a set of circumstances that would lead to a drunken fight between partners. It doesn’t excuse his actions.  We have free will. He could’ve chosen to remove himself from the situation. He didn’t, and he’s faced the consequences for that decision. The backstory doesn’t matter to some and I understand that, but I do think it’s important when you’re assessing the likelihood of it happening again. 

And if people think it’s disqualifying on its own and it doesn’t matter whether he’s likely to do it again, I have no problem with that view. I’m not clamoring for Beard as the #1 option. If we can hire someone as good or better, awesome! I’ll just be highly frustrated if Dolson passes on Beard to hire a Brownell. 

 I am surrounded by family and acquaintances that either put people in jail, or work with people with addictions.  It's an interesting time at our gatherings.  The one thing both sides agree on is, almost everyone has a rock bottom moment that will change their lives and stop the bad behaviors for good.  Beard seems to be a great father, hard worker and probably will never screw up again, because he has way too much to lose.    

Mark Few has been named here as a choice for our coach.  What if he would have killed someone when he got his DUI.  Luckily he didn't but he did the crime and he probably was scared sh!tless and won't do it again.  What about Izzo and how his assistant coach abused women and how some of his players apparently did the same?  Why was he forgiven for not being smart enough to see what was right in front of him.  I don't know, but I do believe in second chances,   because people do hit rock bottom and change their lives.  

Saying all that,  Beard is a great coach,  not my choice for IU, but I just happen to prefer others.  My social working family members explain things to me,  and my prosecuting side actually do believe in second chances.  That's all, and probably too long for anyone to read.   So, Brad Stevens, come on down!

[EasyEJay]

17 minutes ago, The Big Cig said:

The question is….Where was SD the day BS was in South Bend?

Ahhhhhhhhhh the final handshake of acceptance took place right under touchdown Jesus? NICE! 

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Under .600 in P4 conferences for his career? Facial Hair is so overrated based on the 2 seasons at TT he's been unable to come close to replicating. He sure knows how to pad his season win percentages in the nonconference, though.

I don't believe IU will hire him.

76-66 in conference. That's 53% winning in conference. 

For context, Woody is 51.3% in conference, though admittedly at a place where it should be easier to win.

[Hovadipo]

6 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Wasn’t checking for him at the scorers’ tables on the broadcast. Was he not along for the trip?

I could be wrong, but I don't remember seeing him.

[CSP]

10 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Under .600 in P4 conferences for his career? Facial Hair is so overrated based on the 2 seasons at TT he's been unable to come close to replicating. He sure knows how to pad his season win percentages in the nonconference, though.

I don't believe IU will hire him.

Lol and just won't mention going 30-4 with Litte Rock? 

I have no issue if the search firm finds that Beard isn't an option because of his, alleged, current drinking or the situation the night he was arrested. 

The questioning his coaching make me laugh. 

 

Hes has a REAL chance to set the all time Ws in a season at his 3rd school.... cmon. 

[go iu bb]

10 hours ago, Asha’man said:

This I can agree with. 
 

Listening through some basketball podcasts over the last 3 weeks, one of the key metrics for winning it all is offensive efficiency. There are a few outliers but all but like 3ish national champions had top 5 offenses on Kenpom. The outliers were still top 25. But the defensive efficiencies were also top 25, most top 10. So to me it’s more important to have an offensive minded head coach than defensive. But the defense needs to still be top 25 on kenpom. 

There was an article that was shared here from over a year ago which was talking about Danny Hurley's recruiting philosophy. He basically said he recruits players for their offense since offensive is what wins championships.

[Hornsby]

 I am surrounded by family and acquaintances that either put people in jail, or work with people with addictions.  It's an interesting time at our gatherings.  The one thing both sides agree on is, almost everyone has a rock bottom moment that will change their lives and stop the bad behaviors for good.  Beard seems to be a great father, hard worker and probably will never screw up again, because he has way too much to lose.    

Mark Few has been named here as a choice for our coach.  What if he would have killed someone when he got his DUI.  Luckily he didn't but he did the crime and he probably was scared sh!tless and won't do it again.  What about Izzo and how his assistant coach abused women and how some of his players apparently did the same?  Why was he forgiven for not being smart enough to see what was right in front of him.  I don't know, but I do believe in second chances,   because people do hit rock bottom and change their lives.  

Saying all that,  Beard is a great coach,  not my choice for IU, but I just happen to prefer others.  My social working family members explain things to me,  and my prosecuting side actually do believe in second chances.  That's all, and probably too long for anyone to read.   So, Brad Stevens, come on down!

And don't forget drew is too religious. People can find something wrong with anyone if they want. Especially those that live to judge other people they do not know or have ever met. Most of us do believe in second chances but we have a percentage of people who do not. I hope for their sake they are never falsely accused or something like that given the no second chance stance.

 

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[Herotime]

14 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

Brad.

Confirmed? :)

[Uspshoosier]

Beard has his own thread.  Take the beard stuff to that thread please 

[iubb]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Beard has his own thread.  Take the beard stuff to that thread please 

[Hovadipo]

Beard is dominating the general thread to the point that he needs his own. Let's steer that discussion over this way if you'ns don't mind.

[tyappleg]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Beard has his own thread.  Take the beard stuff to that thread please 

 

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

And don't forget drew is too religious. People can find something wrong with anyone if they want. Especially those that live to judge other people they do not know or have ever met.

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For sure!

That's why the interviewing and vetting process is so key.

Because someone actually could be 'too religious', chemically dependent, or abusive. But, an effective vetting process will shed great light on whether there is even an issue, or whether a prior issue may may no longer be an issue.

[Hornsby]

So back to talking about the huss bus?

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[Mopladysman]

Just now, Hovadipo said:

Beard is dominating the general thread to the point that he needs his own. Let's steer that discussion over this way if you'ns don't mind.

Hasn’t even been hired yet and he’s already dominating!

[Eagle’s Rug]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

And don't forget drew is too religious. People can find something wrong with anyone if they want. Especially those that live to judge other people they do not know or have ever met.

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Opinions are generally judgement calls based upon information that is not comprehensive.  Have you met any of the candidates in this process?

[OKHOOSIER]

1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

There was an article that was shared here from over a year ago which was talking about Danny Hurley's recruiting philosophy. He basically said he recruits players for their offense since offensive is what wins championships.

I can only compare this to hockey as that is the only sport I played at a high level (post high school, pre-IU), but offensive instincts and stick work skills are much harder to teach and get better by the time someone is 18, but defensive philosophy is much more teachable to "adults" assuming they buy in. Scorer's score, and it starts at really young age. Kids get typecast positionally into forward or defense much younger in hockey than in other sports in my experience (think like 10-12 years old at the AAA travel level). Often by the time they are at an age where all five players need to understand and execute defensively, they are terrible at it lol-- but it can be taught. Spacing and being in the right place on offense is much more instinctual. Id imagine high level basketball is similar. 

Thanks for listening, back to arguing. 

[HoosierHoopster]

3 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I can only compare this to hockey as that is the only sport I played at a high level (post high school, pre-IU), but offensive instincts and stick work skills are much harder to teach and get better by the time someone is 18, but defensive philosophy is much more teachable to "adults" assuming they buy in. Scorer's score, and it starts at really young age. Kids get typecast positionally into forward or defense much younger in hockey than in other sports in my experience (think like 10-12 years old at the AAA travel level). Often by the time they are at an age where all five players need to understand and execute defensively, they are terrible at it lol-- but it can be taught. Spacing and being in the right place on offense is much more instinctual. Id imagine high level basketball is similar. 

Thanks for listening, back to arguing. 

I played as well, and on my experience the positioning started at the pee wee or squirt level (no one else here will even know what that means lol). I was a center from the age of 5 on.... We didn't get all 5 D buy in until HS

[Hovadipo]

I sent some recent posts to the Beard thread. Nothing deleted, just trying to steer that discussion to its place.

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