General Coach Candidate News

[OKHOOSIER 5,890]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

To get past the sweet 16, regularly. If you're going to quote me with a pro Cronin post, save it. Lol... couldn't find many more uninspiring hires for me, but hey he yells a lot? 

I haven’t seen anything pro-Cronin. I am not pro-Cronin. We need someone who would get us consistently back in the conversation, and he would do that. So if we got to him, I’d be okay with it.  Nobody is pining for Cronin.

IMO Dolson cannot take a risk of Archie 2.0, and if we get to tier 3, Cronin is a safe bet. I just don’t think many of the safe/sure bets are realistic. Beard isn’t getting considered. My personal favorite McCasland probably isn’t leaving Texas. Of the realistic close to sure things, I think it’s McDermott. All of this assuming Dusty wouldn’t leave UM of course. 
 

Or it’s still Stevens and we are gonna be begging an apology from that new guy lol

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5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

To get past the sweet 16, regularly. If you're going to quote me with a pro Cronin post, save it. Lol... couldn't find many more uninspiring hires for me, but hey he yells a lot? 

And he’s 3 inches shorter than Archie.  That can’t be good.  lol.  :)

[Artie86 3,477]

8 hours ago, tyappleg said:

We are so back.  Lol.  Listen, you are going to get torn apart for this, but it is what it is.  

This thread is going to be hell on earth tomorrow morning, and probably the next 2 weeks now.  Godspeed to you. 

….this is going to go 2 ways.

1. Isaac is legit with creditable source and was/maybe “smokescreened”, himself, then told to reel it all in with the “Brad to IU” info. 

2. Issac is a true troll and could care less what people think. Mission accomplished on his part, then he just deletes his acct. 

I’m leaning heavily towards #1 strictly because of how strangely and quickly Goodman’s very vague statement shut things down. 

[lillurk 5,066]

20 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

As I have stated the tournament is a numbers game.  Need a coach you can get there consistently — basically every year, or 9 of 10 at least.  Then if he gets to the second weekend on a regular basis, you got your man.  It is a lot of “luck” to go from there.  More times you’re in, more likely to break thru.  

Everyone’s allowed their opinion but this is the clear right answer, I think. It’s not the only goal, but at a place with top 5 or top 10 resources, this is not some insurmountable ask:

32 auto bids means 36 at-large spots. Given the strength of the conference, that means being basically a top 36 program even in a lesser year (injury-riddled, bad shooting luck for a chunk of the year, non-conference schedule falls flat, etc.).

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8 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

To get past the sweet 16, regularly. If you're going to quote me with a pro Cronin post, save it. Lol... couldn't find many more uninspiring hires for me, but hey he yells a lot? 

Genuinely asking, how many coaches regularly make it past the S16? What do you consider regularly? 

[LamarCheeks 22,068]

3 hours ago, BlueDevil said:

At the very least the new coach should be losing 0 games in Assembly Hall. Ridiculous.

And also stop having seasons with defeats in double digits. 

Do people realize how long it's been since we finished a season with fewer than 10 losses? 

In 2015-16, we were 27-8. Since then ... 

2016-17: 18-16
2017-18: 16-15
2018-19: 19-16
2019-20: 20-12
2020-21: 12-15
2012-22: 21-14
2022-23: 23-12
2023-24: 19-14

In that span, Duke and Kansas have had a combined three seasons of 10 or more losses. 

[#1fanofafrin 619]

19 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

I love this if for no other reason than it keeps the pot stirring....it's fun!

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2 hours ago, JaybobHoosier said:

I will say, if it’s Brownell then that means IU is not serious about resurrecting its men’s basketball program. I’m going to choose to believe that’s false/fake. I can see him being on a list of a 4th or 5th tier of coaching candidates, but no logical way he’s higher than that. I would rather take an up and comer that Brownell. 
 

Like I said, not gonna let that get me down, because I refuse to believe IU is that unserious about its program. 

Agree with this take 100%. No reason to get an experienced coach if they have been mediocre. McCollum over Brownell everyday. I’d even take Pitino Jr over Brownell. 

[Alford Bailey 13,225]

Our fan base is no different than any other. Yes we have a small group that are delusional and think Stevens will leave the Celtics front office to coach our train wreck but 95% plus know it’s not happening. You have that with every large program.

[Hoosierfan1901 8,291]

Issac maybe a troll or not, but this fun and suspenseful at the same time! 

[MrBBall 982]

59 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

I’m a May fan, got into it with Tyme who was trying to say Woodson was a better coach which… yeah good call Tyme.

But top-20 is a REALLY high bar. May’s results so far have been great no doubt, but I think sustained excellence is required when you’re talking at that level.

Among the top 20 coaches with winning percentage, active, Id take May over Calipari, Pitino, Dixon, Matta, and Kelsey. Easily. 
 

May has a top 25 offense last 3 years. Recruited a McDs AA this year, got transfer haul, and has a protected seed with many new pieces. And he’s only 48. What am I missing?

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5 minutes ago, rayl456 said:

And he’s 3 inches shorter than Archie.  That can’t be good.  lol.  :)

 

[lillurk 5,066]

Just now, MrBBall said:

Among the top 20 coaches with winning percentage, active, Id take May over Calipari, Pitino, Dixon, Matta, and Kelsey. Easily. 
 

May has a top 25 offense last 3 years. Recruited a McDs AA this year, got transfer haul, and has a protected seed with many new pieces. And he’s only 48. What am I missing?

You hire a coach for their future, not their past, I’m with you

[MrBBall 982]

Just now, lillurk said:

You hire a coach for their future, not their past, I’m with you

Yeah I agree. He’s the best of the future and if he resigns with Michigan and IU doesn’t get Stevens, how will we all feel?

[#1fanofafrin 619]

7 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

Can you imagine if we hired him pre-NIL?

[kottke 919]

12 minutes ago, Trish said:

I don't see anyone being announced until we lose in the Big Ten Tourney. We shouldn't make the NCAA tourney so we'll conclude our season after the conference. 

Whether it's Brad or not. We're still weeks away from learning who the next coach is. We also must remember we haven't had a unique search like this since Kelvin Sampson was dismissed. We're in a unique situation and must consider this is not typical. 

And if it’s not Brad (which is most likely IMO) we’re looking at another week or a couple weeks (maybe few weeks) AFTER we lose in the BTT because our new coach will most likely be coaching in the NCAA tournament.

[Uspshoosier 54,305]

Coaching Candidate watching guide 

Ohio st/Michigan- 1pm (May)

Drake/Bradley -2 pm(McCollum) and this should be game of the day 

Creighton/St Johns- 3pm (McDermott)

 

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53 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

This is a genuine question. What are your expectations for postseason success for the new coach?

I'd say expectation for the next coach should be ranked in the top 25 most every year and competing for the conference title more often than not. Wouldn't say top 3, top 4, etc. Too many variables to be that prescriptive IMO. 

Understand there will be good years - where you win the conference and make a run in March - and other years where you're building or "down" and maybe bounce early in March or underachieve in B10 play. With as big of an NIL budget as IU provides, etc. fans should expect to see results quickly from the next coach IMO. Year 1 or year 2 need to be good as in competing for the B10 title and ideally a second weekend in March... then you give yourself a shot. If you see obvious red flags by year 3 that aren't getting fixed, cut bait. 

[lillurk 5,066]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Genuinely asking, how many coaches regularly make it past the S16? What do you consider regularly? 

There are only 8 active coaches who’ve been to more than one final 4. Can’t quite find the same for elite 8 and I’m not going to manually count them. Only 15 more active coaches have even been to on F4. 

Of those 23, about half can be immediately eliminated because they’re retiring (Larranaga), not leaving (Izzo), likely unattainable (Hurley), or we simply wouldn’t be anywhere near excited about them (Frank Martin, among others).

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1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

I'd say expectation for the next coach should be ranked in the top 25 most every year and competing for the conference title more often than not. Wouldn't say top 3, top 4, etc. Too many variables to be that prescriptive IMO. 

Understand there will be good years - where you win the conference and make a run in March - and other years where you're building or "down" and maybe bounce early in March or underachieve in B10 play. With as big of an NIL budget as IU provides, etc. fans should expect to see results quickly from the next coach IMO. Year 1 or year 2 need to be good as in competing for the B10 title and ideally a second weekend in March... then you give yourself a shot. If you see obvious red flags by year 3 that aren't getting fixed, cut bait. 

You just described almost guaranteed what Cronin would do at IU.

By the way; his post-game presser in Bloomington was excellent. Curmudgeon who is kinda funny, super honest, and not afraid of anyone or anything.