General Coach Candidate News

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Just now, lillurk said:

You hire a coach for their future, not their past, I’m with you

Yeah I agree. He’s the best of the future and if he resigns with Michigan and IU doesn’t get Stevens, how will we all feel?

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7 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

Can you imagine if we hired him pre-NIL?

[kottke 893]

12 minutes ago, Trish said:

I don't see anyone being announced until we lose in the Big Ten Tourney. We shouldn't make the NCAA tourney so we'll conclude our season after the conference. 

Whether it's Brad or not. We're still weeks away from learning who the next coach is. We also must remember we haven't had a unique search like this since Kelvin Sampson was dismissed. We're in a unique situation and must consider this is not typical. 

And if it’s not Brad (which is most likely IMO) we’re looking at another week or a couple weeks (maybe few weeks) AFTER we lose in the BTT because our new coach will most likely be coaching in the NCAA tournament.

[Uspshoosier 49,229]

Coaching Candidate watching guide 

Ohio st/Michigan- 1pm (May)

Drake/Bradley -2 pm(McCollum) and this should be game of the day 

Creighton/St Johns- 3pm (McDermott)

 

[Home Jersey 11,487]

53 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

This is a genuine question. What are your expectations for postseason success for the new coach?

I'd say expectation for the next coach should be ranked in the top 25 most every year and competing for the conference title more often than not. Wouldn't say top 3, top 4, etc. Too many variables to be that prescriptive IMO. 

Understand there will be good years - where you win the conference and make a run in March - and other years where you're building or "down" and maybe bounce early in March or underachieve in B10 play. With as big of an NIL budget as IU provides, etc. fans should expect to see results quickly from the next coach IMO. Year 1 or year 2 need to be good as in competing for the B10 title and ideally a second weekend in March... then you give yourself a shot. If you see obvious red flags by year 3 that aren't getting fixed, cut bait. 

[lillurk 4,219]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Genuinely asking, how many coaches regularly make it past the S16? What do you consider regularly? 

There are only 8 active coaches who’ve been to more than one final 4. Can’t quite find the same for elite 8 and I’m not going to manually count them. Only 15 more active coaches have even been to on F4. 

Of those 23, about half can be immediately eliminated because they’re retiring (Larranaga), not leaving (Izzo), likely unattainable (Hurley), or we simply wouldn’t be anywhere near excited about them (Frank Martin, among others).

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1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

I'd say expectation for the next coach should be ranked in the top 25 most every year and competing for the conference title more often than not. Wouldn't say top 3, top 4, etc. Too many variables to be that prescriptive IMO. 

Understand there will be good years - where you win the conference and make a run in March - and other years where you're building or "down" and maybe bounce early in March or underachieve in B10 play. With as big of an NIL budget as IU provides, etc. fans should expect to see results quickly from the next coach IMO. Year 1 or year 2 need to be good as in competing for the B10 title and ideally a second weekend in March... then you give yourself a shot. If you see obvious red flags by year 3 that aren't getting fixed, cut bait. 

You just described almost guaranteed what Cronin would do at IU.

By the way; his post-game presser in Bloomington was excellent. Curmudgeon who is kinda funny, super honest, and not afraid of anyone or anything.

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2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Coaching Candidate watching guide 

Ohio st/Michigan- 1pm (May) CBS

Drake/Bradley -2 pm(McCollum) and this should be game of the day ESPN2

Creighton/St Johns- 3pm (McDermott) FS1

 

Just added a little info. 

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13 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Genuinely asking, how many coaches regularly make it past the S16? What do you consider regularly? 

I have no idea, I have no idea, and I am bummer Cronin is even being talked about. 

30 years with 1-2 championship level teams, 1 team made it past the sw16, what are we doing? 

[Rico 3,376]

1 minute ago, kottke said:

And if it’s not Brad (which is most likely IMO) we’re looking at another week or a couple weeks AFTER we lose in the BTT because our new coach will most likely be coaching in the NCAA tournament.

Shrewsberry is going to be coaching in the NCAAT?  

 

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Coaching Candidate watching guide 

Ohio st/Michigan- 1pm (May)

Drake/Bradley -2 pm(McCollum) and this should be game of the day 

Creighton/St Johns- 3pm (McDermott)

 

I big NO to Diebler!

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3 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Yeah I agree. He’s the best of the future and if he resigns with Michigan and IU doesn’t get Stevens, how will we all feel?

I think there are other good candidates, and of course we have >1000 pages discussing how we feel about them.

Broadly, if we win, most folks will be supportive, though of course there are matters of conscience that would complicate a candidate or two, and there are candidates closer to the end of their career that worry me.

Not so much that they can’t win at that stage; 10 years of McDermott would probably be great, for example. But coaching requires both belief in what you’re doing AND a willingness to learn and adapt; it’s hard work, and when you’re nearing the end of a long, lucrative career, it’s easy to imagine the grind wears you down, or you’re less willing to learn.

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Do we have a troll hall of fame? I don’t think scottie would be in it but it would kind of fun vote and debate on it.  NGW is da goat so far to me…… sorry I’m bored. 

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15 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I haven’t seen anything pro-Cronin. I am not pro-Cronin. We need someone who would get us consistently back in the conversation, and he would do that. So if we got to him, I’d be okay with it.  Nobody is pining for Cronin.

IMO Dolson cannot take a risk of Archie 2.0, and if we get to tier 3, Cronin is a safe bet. I just don’t think many of the safe/sure bets are realistic. Beard isn’t getting considered. My personal favorite McCasland probably isn’t leaving Texas. Of the realistic close to sure things, I think it’s McDermott. All of this assuming Dusty wouldn’t leave UM of course. 
 

Or it’s still Stevens and we are gonna be begging an apology from that new guy lol

There have been lotssss of pro Cronin posts. 

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18 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

Per a quick search, only 20 coaches in NCAA Division 1 basketball have made multiple sweet 16 trips in the last 10 years. Izzo 5, Self 4, Calipari 3, Coach K 3, Bennett 3, Few 5, Drew 3, Sampson 4, Hamilton 4, Wright 4, Beard 3, Altman 3, Pearl 2, Painter 3, Cronin 2, Sean Miller 2, Barnes 2, McDermott 2, Holtmann 2, Fran 2. 

A whole 2 and he's been at UCLA lol 

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9 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

….this is going to go 2 ways.

1. Isaac is legit with creditable source and was/maybe “smokescreened”, himself, then told to reel it all in with the “Brad to IU” info. 

2. Issac is a true troll and could care less what people think. Mission accomplished on his part, then he just deletes his acct. 

I’m leaning heavily towards #1 strictly because of how strangely and quickly Goodman’s very vague statement shut things down. 

I'll preface this by saying the chances of Brad Stevens being our next coach are extremely low in my opinion.  It's just pretty hard for me to believe, but the timing of everything is interesting. If you take what we heard here at face value: He supposedly verbally agrees if we meet his demands, we meet the demands and almost as soon as he supposedly gets the updated contract, the statement that he is not a candidate comes out.  

Between the timing and wording of the statement, if you squint enough, you can convince yourself something is going on.  Either way, it's been an entertaining and wild week of #BradWatching.  

Just hoping in the end, we end up with somebody we can all rally around and we start winning some basketball games. 

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What I don’t get is, what’s the big deal about a new coach being announced before the end of the season? I mean, Woody already said he was leaving so that shouldn’t matter at all. Sounds like a big deal about nothing.

[P92 185]

Since BS is President of basketball operations, who does he report to? Who would he give his notice to if he did decide to leave?

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28 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Don’t forget Crean also had a final 4 appearance….I’m not saying Crean is better, Cronin is  just not a major upgrade in my opinion. Not sure what happened to Crean at Georgia, obviously he was out of his element and must have had real problems recruiting!

We're not trying to upgrade from Crean at the moment. We're trying to upgrade from Woodson. I'd take someone a bit better and more consistent than Crean now. 

I'd prefer a home run hire but Cronin would be solid.

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Just now, P92 said:

Since BS is President of basketball operations, who does he report to? Who would he give his notice to if he did decide to leave?

The owner, I think.

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6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

You just described almost guaranteed what Cronin would do at IU.

By the way; his post-game presser in Bloomington was excellent. Curmudgeon who is kinda funny, super honest, and not afraid of anyone or anything.

Here ya go ..