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2 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

22 years, 32 years, 2 Sweet 16's 4 sweet 16's and a FF

Why let facts get in the way of some good old fashion irrational dislike.

 

What is impressive though? 

Not much 

[Chris007 62,611]

Went to bed and woke up to 4 inches of snow here in Bloomington. That wasn’t in the forecast. Did I miss anything else?

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Got to crawl before you can walk. That’s where some disagree.   Some think IU can skip steps and be in a position to hire a coach that can automatically put them at the head of the table.   Some think it’s going to take a process and the first step is getting a coach to stabilize a middle of the pack mediocre or under (I think IU is 25-30 games under .500 in the B1G over the last 9 years) B1G team.   Maybe it’s good to hire a coach like Cronin first to stabilize and then worrying about games past the sweet 16 later 

I'm sorry. I have no interest in this. 

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Would making the tournament every year not be a significant upgrade over what we’ve dealt with the past 15+ years? It’s not the end goal, but getting in every year certainly gives you a much better shot at winning the title. 

That's great. We are Iowa/Minnesota now. 

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Went to bed and woke up to 4 inches of snow here in Bloomington. That wasn’t in the forecast. Did I miss anything else?

I woke up to unexpected snow too. 

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1 hour ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Who is NGW?

Alleged to be the same guy who is Tyme on Twitter/X. And de facto leader of the Twitter/X Woodson bot army.

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1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm sorry. I have no interest in this. 

That's great. We are Iowa/Minnesota now. 

You have been for awhile now 

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Just now, Uspshoosier said:

You have been for awhile now 

Have been what? 

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Got to crawl before you can walk. That’s where some disagree.   Some think IU can skip steps and be in a position to hire a coach that can automatically put them at the head of the table.   Some think it’s going to take a process and the first step is getting a coach to stabilize a middle of the pack mediocre or under (I think IU is 25-30 games under .500 in the B1G over the last 9 years) B1G team.   Maybe it’s good to hire a coach like Cronin first to stabilize and then worrying about games past the sweet 16 later 

I think you make good points here.  The problem is, some of us older guys have lost patience and have little interest in “stabilize.”  And I think, given both the current landscape of college basketball and the resources at our disposal, it’s OK to expect more than that.  Quite frankly, I want to be sitting here 6 or 7 years from now and be thought of as one of the 6 best programs in college basketball, because that’s absolutely what we’re capable of.

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Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Have been what? 

Just another middle of the pack B1G team 

[coonhounds 10,559]

I will do you all a favor a leave this board 
This board is like a cult and the insiders are Jim Jones and and the others are the followers. If you question the leaders then the followers jump anyone who question the cult 
Have fun in fantasy land

We must not lose iu scott! Please stay. This program is really in the dumpster if we ran scotty r off!

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2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Just another middle of the pack B1G team 

Look... we end up with Cronin when we should have had Beard or Scott Drew..  

I would be nearing "I'm an Indiana football and baseball fan only" 

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1 minute ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I think you make good points here.  The problem is, some of us older guys have lost patience and have little interest in “stabilize.”  And I think, given both the current landscape of college basketball and the resources at our disposal, it’s OK to expect more than that.  Quite frankly, I want to be sitting here 6 or 7 years from now and be thought of as one of the 6 best programs in college basketball, because that’s absolutely what we’re capable of.

I’m 47 (an old guy)and want the same thing however sometimes it doesn’t work like that.  If we skip steps and hire a shark and we are rolling awesome however if we have to settle for a coach like Cronin and I actually get to watch IU compete for the top of the B1G and actually participate in the tourney consistently then I won’t be mad at that either 

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Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Look... we end up with Cronin when we should have had Beard or Scott Drew..  

I would be nearing "I'm an Indiana football and baseball fan only" 

Everyone has a tipping point 

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2 hours ago, 5fouls said:

So, we're at the point where we accept a slightly better version of mediocrity?  I get it that Stevens said no.  I get it that May might say no.  But, look for the potential home runs from the other names on the list.  Cronin has already proven over the course of 21 years to NOT be a home run.

I’ll play devils advocate with you.
 

Do we really think Cincinnati is a team that should make the 2nd weekend routinely? I don’t. I remember them getting beat early under multiple coaches. UCLA he made a run but it’s also the NIL era and they do not have the boosters who care enough to bankroll them. So he is at a disadvantage there.
 

You also mention 21 years of experience  he is only 53 years old with 21 years of experience  that’s someone who has had to grind to make it to the upper echelon. I’m not going to hold it against him that he wasn’t making runs to the final four as a 32 year old. He could also be entering his prime.

The last 3 years have seen him make the sweet 16 twice and a Final Four. I’ll weight what he has done at a similar school with lesser NIL than what he did at UC and in his early 30’s. He could raise a banner for IU. 

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Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Scott Drew

I think he might be one of those candidates that doesn’t get talked about much however when it gets closer to March out of now where you hear a lot of smoke about.   I think he is the sleeper one that might be higher then some think 

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1 hour ago, MrBBall said:

Yeah I agree. He’s the best of the future and if he resigns with Michigan and IU doesn’t get Stevens, how will we all feel?

I'll be angry that Woodson didn't step aside last year so we could have hired Dusty when he was available. 

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4 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I think you make good points here.  The problem is, some of us older guys have lost patience and have little interest in “stabilize.”  And I think, given both the current landscape of college basketball and the resources at our disposal, it’s OK to expect more than that.  Quite frankly, I want to be sitting here 6 or 7 years from now and be thought of as one of the 6 best programs in college basketball, because that’s absolutely what we’re capable of.

If we could realistically get the top coach in the sport, which Id argue is Nate Oats, then yeah we’d all want that.

I think what you’re seeing is that some of us realize many of these coaches won’t be realistic for us. Example: we’d be happy with Beard but he’s controversial and apparently our current admin wouldn’t even consider him. I’m not saying that’s right or wrong but when you’re looking at the top of the sport, who is actually  realistic hire that puts us in that top 6-7 you mention?

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

I think he might be one of those candidates that doesn’t get talked about much however when it gets closer to March out of now where you hear a lot of smoke about.   I think he is the sleeper one that might be higher then some think 

We’d be happy with him for sure but I think the skepticism arises since he turned down both UK and UofL last season. Maybe he has a special place in his heart for us but that seems unlikely, similar to the Brad Stevens stuff. (Although Brad’s still in until he’s out)

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1 hour ago, maharkn said:

I don't think he can recruit well enough to stay near the top of the Big ten. As of right now he has no signings for next year. Can he not recruit or is he not recruiting because he plans on being somewhere else next year

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When he was an assistant for Huggins at UC he was known for his recruiting and recruiting connections.  Regularly recruited NYC and East coast.  But that was pretty long ago.  Just my opinion, but I think UCLA is still a strong brand name on the West coast and helps with their recruiting.  But I could be way off base.  He will get players.  But how great his recruiting might be in Indiana, I have no clue.

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’m 47 (an old guy)and want the same thing however sometimes it doesn’t work like that.  If we skip steps and hire a shark and we are rolling awesome however if we have to settle for a coach like Cronin and I actually get to watch IU compete for the top of the B1G and actually participate in the tourney consistently then I won’t be mad at that either 

I’m almost 60.  If Michigan can go from 8-24 to a 4 seed in the tournament in one year, it’s not unreasonable to expect Indiana to skip steps as well.  I mean, guys my age especially lived what we’re capable of, and the fact that we’ve stayed around for 25-30 of mediocrity is pretty remarkable.  But I think it’s time for IU to stop taking that remarkable support for granted.