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[Hoosier987]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

When McCollum goes to back to back D1 national title games that comparison will make sense. 

My goodness…a Stevens comparison with McCollum…and people wonder why we’ve been irrelevant for so long 

[Hornsby]

Saying that 'he won in division two' is vastly underselling what he did there.

If this is honestly the route dolson chooses to go nobody should complain if we are doing this again in four years. He has a choice to hire proven winners and if he doesn't this is all on him if it fails.

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[go iu bb]

2 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

Stevens went from Butler to the Celtics. That worked out ok. 

And that is part of the reason why he's considered in such high regard as a coach. People that jump to the next level (or more, as in this case) and succeed happen but they're a minority.

McCollum very well could succeed at IU. He also very well could fail. It's a gamble.

[IUguy77]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

When McCollum goes to back to back D1 national title games that comparison will make sense. 

He won 4 D2 titles. Now he’s winning at D1. Stevens was successful at a small college and jumped all way to Celtics and was successful. It’s basketball not rocket science. And with NIL it’s even easier to get players now. All the guy has done is win wherever he’s been. There’s no data that says he wouldn’t adjust and be successful. 

[Hornsby]

Further…besides all the other red flags of someone with no experience taking over a program such as IUBB is the likelihood that McCollum takes a significant step back next year…as he is losing the majority of his players. I’m curious to see how he navigates the portal building a new team. How will he rebuild? We have no idea because there is nothing to refer back to with McCollum…another reason why he doesn’t need to be coaching here. 

But he is a good person our resident expert says. Isn't that all that matters?

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[Mr. Hoosier Pride]

what was the flight talk about earlier? 

Laurence Hanscom to Naples and Clark County to Naples around the same time? Is that what was posted?

[Hoosier987]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

But he is a good person our resident expert says. Isn't that all that matters?

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It’s partly this line of thinking which has made us suck for so long.

[Papacap]

1 minute ago, IUguy77 said:

He won 4 D2 titles. Now he’s winning at D1. Stevens was successful at a small college and jumped all way to Celtics and was successful. It’s basketball not rocket science. And with NIL it’s even easier to get players now. All the guy has done is when whoever he’s been. There’s no data that says he wouldn’t adjust and be successful. 

There’s also no data that he would beat top college teams. When I grew up in Indy, there was a player for the Indians named Champ Summers. He was a triple A all star and a stud with the Indians. And that was his ceiling. McCollum may end up a great coach. But if we hire him, it either means we whiffed on about 8 other coaches or we have poor decision makers. Or both.

[mamasa]

14 hours ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I wish I could have taken both of them, but I screwed around too long and had to get on that “come to Jesus” path to graduate on time.

Any class notes you care to share with the group on Frank Zappa?

Not class notes, but I sent my daughter Zappa's "Watermelon in Easter Hay" (one of the most beautiful songs ever). She listened to it while, um, blazing- the spoken word intro freaked her out lol!!!!

[PritchSlap]

Totally don’t understand the lack of enthusiasm for McCollum.  That Archie trauma must still be strong.  I understand it’s D2, but there’s 300+ division II teams and he won 4 national championships in like 14 years.  Check my math here, but that’s pretty f’n good.  He won 12 straight conference championships.  That is not just a great coach, that is a great system.  And all he’s done in 1 year in D1 is win a conference championship basically with D2 players.
 

but sure…Brownell it up and Beards away!

[Hoosier987]

4 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

He won 4 D2 titles. Now he’s winning at D1. Stevens was successful at a small college and jumped all way to Celtics and was successful. It’s basketball not rocket science. And with NIL it’s even easier to get players now. All the guy has done is win wherever he’s been. There’s no data that says he wouldn’t adjust and be successful. 

Let’s see how he does next year when he losses most of his team. We don’t know how he’ll do, because there’s literally no history with him. We don’t need to take that risk and pray and try to convince ourselves he’s the next Bo Ryan. We’ve been there and done that. At this time, with all our NIL resources McCollum wouldn’t be a good hire. 

[IU5355]

29 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

Did Trilly ever provide an update today? Thought that was mentioned this morning

Yes. 

Regarding the Otz smoke yesterday, he said he's heard nothing. 

He said IU has done background work on Devries and had preliminary conversation but doesn't believe he's high on the list. 

Beard: He said the info from the hysterics podcast was new and would be following up. 

Brad: heard nothing. 

Nothing new minus the Devries info.

 

Update: trilly dropped a hint that will wade may be throwing his name out there. That's how I took it. 

[IUBtown]

3 minutes ago, PritchSlap said:

Totally don’t understand the lack of enthusiasm for McCollum.  That Archie trauma must still be strong.  I understand it’s D2, but there’s 300+ division II teams and he won 4 national championships in like 14 years.  Check my math here, but that’s pretty f’n good.  He won 12 straight conference championships.  That is not just a great coach, that is a great system.  And all he’s done in 1 year in D1 is win a conference championship basically with D2 players.
 

but sure…Brownell it up and Beards away!

Why did he coach for 14 years in d2?

[Coach Robby]

What if it´s Lawrence Frank, and has been the whole time?

[rcbowla]

Ben McCollum (43)

- Overall Record D2- 395-91 (241-63) D1- 27-3 (17-3) MVC (1st season)

- 1x Conference Champion MVC

- 4x D2 National Championships

-Not including Conference Championships from D2

 

Josh Schertz (49)

- Overall Record D2- 337-69 (214-39) D1- 80-50 (41-28) MVC/A-10 (1st season)

- 1x Conference Champion MVC

- 2x D2 FF

- Not including Conference Championships from D2 

[mamasa]

13 hours ago, Hoosier987 said:

Lol. I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re the same type of person who would NOT like Scott Drew because he shows his Faith. 

I'm so damn tired of hearing this. NOBODY gives a rat's @$$ if he shows his faith. It's not that at all, stop gaslighting with this. It's the zealot aspect and fakeness that many people see. if you like him, great. Don't act like people are going after him because of faith though. That's just weak diarrhea of the mouth

[IU5355]

1 minute ago, Coach Robby said:

What if it´s Lawrence Frank, and has been the whole time?

Anarchy. 

[mamasa]

12 hours ago, jonz44 said:

There have been quite a few men who ended up in jail "just because she said something". People are starting to want a little more proof these days.

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Victim shaming. Got it. 

[tyappleg]

10 minutes ago, PritchSlap said:

Totally don’t understand the lack of enthusiasm for McCollum.  That Archie trauma must still be strong.  I understand it’s D2, but there’s 300+ division II teams and he won 4 national championships in like 14 years.  Check my math here, but that’s pretty f’n good.  He won 12 straight conference championships.  That is not just a great coach, that is a great system.  And all he’s done in 1 year in D1 is win a conference championship basically with D2 players.
 

but sure…Brownell it up and Beards away!

Has anyone said they want Brad Brownell over McCollum?

[Hoosier987]

5 minutes ago, mamasa said:

I'm so damn tired of hearing this. NOBODY gives a rat's @$$ if he shows his faith. It's not that at all, stop gaslighting with this. It's the zealot aspect and fakeness that many people see. if you like him, great. Don't act like people are going after him because of faith though. That's just weak diarrhea of the mouth

There are literally folks that said he’s “too religious.” They have every right to have that opinion…I don’t care…but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Relax